eGo Variable Battery --- Worth It?

[atlantadave]

I am sure that there is a thread on this somewhere among the forum, so if this has been answered ... forgive me. I went to my vape shop today to look at some different model types. I currently have the standard three click eGo setup and laugh if you will, but I find myself at time using two of these at once to get the hit that I want. I diagnosed myself as needing something that gave me the hit I needed where I wouldn't have two units coming out of my mouth like fangs. So I saw the eGo variable battery model and wasn't sure if that gives off a good hit, or any suggestions on what model would.

 

[Thin]

There's a few things that you could call "a hit" - the amount of nicotine, or vapor, or throat hit. And there's a bit more to it all too.

The atty's work by heating a coil of wire which is wrapped around a wick, which is soaked in juice - thus vaporising it. Putting more volts through the atty will make it hotter thus vaporising more juice, up to a point where it starts to bet burnt. Therefore the quick answer is yes, you'll get a better hit with more volts, and you'll get that from a Variable Voltage (VV) battery.

However, the resistance of your atty comes into play too, and using an atomiser with lower ohms resistance will also heat up hotter achieving the same difference. What atty are you currently using, and how long have you used it for? Maybe it's worn out?

Then there's the nicotine content. Most former pack-a-day smokers seem to like 18mg strength (AKA 1.8%), maybe you need to get a higher strength than you have?

Then there's throat hit. Of the ingredients in ejuice - Propylene Glycol (PG) give you throat hit, and Vegetable Glycerine(VG) gives you more vapor. Maybe your ratio needs a bit of tweaking.

Post back with a bit more info if poss, there's loads of help here

 

[THETOTALLYCOOL]

Good info.

My 2 cents is IF you decide to get a spinner battery, check out the Vision Spinner, rather than the Joyce version. It's slightly thicker, and bit shorter than its counterpart. But the main thing is the voltage readings are easier to read. It's a minor thing, but at night, or for those of us who tend not to wear our glasses, it's valuable. It may be hardto find at a B&M. These guys have it. Ego Series Batteries | Joyetech Ecig

 

[Thin]

I agree. I have a Vision Spinner and an eGo Twist. When they wear out they'll be replaced with Spinners, simply cos you can read what volts you've set it at.

 

[atlantadave]

Thanks for the answers. "Hit" was probably the wrong word to use in my description. My nicotine level is at 24mg and I have a few bottles with different ratios. My problem is I feel like I am not getting as good of a drag (if that is a better word) then what I would like. I have about 6 different eGo batteries and they are all the same in lacking that shot that I am looking for. So I find myself literally holding one in each hand and then into the mouth at the same time to create the level of intake that I am searching for. So I guess the question circles back to --- does the voltage increase also increase the intake and would you say that it is double what the standard/starter eGo battery delivers, about the same, a little bit more, etc....

 

[ghola1was]

I like my VV Ego. But the mech mods I use while I'm at home produce epic clouds of vapor in comparison. Even the E-Palm with an 18350 IMR makes my Ego seem positively anemic. I won't pretend to know why, although I have my guesses.

 

[THETOTALLYCOOL]

Yes. More volume with a higher voltage. But as Thin said, you can also get to the same place by using a coil with lower resistance. I use a Kanger T3 bottom coil. Usually, when I buy them, they come with 2.4 Ohm coils. I take those off right away and screw on 1.8 Ohms with the standard Ego battery.

Also, there's a technique. Press the button and wait a moment before inhaling. For me, I know I'm in the zone when I hear a crackling sound. And make sure you're not blocking the little intake holes with your finger, thumb.

 

[OBDave]

Yes. More volume with a higher voltage. But as Thin said, you can also get to the same place by using a coil with lower resistance. I use a Kanger T3 bottom coil. Usually, when I buy them, they come with 2.4 Ohm coils. I take those off right away and screw on 1.8 Ohms with the standard Ego battery.

Also, there's a technique. Press the button and wait a moment before inhaling. For me, I know I'm in the zone when I hear a crackling sound. And make sure you're not blocking the little intake holes with your finger, thumb.

I also swap my 2.4ohm coils for 1.8ohm when using non VV Ego batteries - it made a big difference for me at first, then when Fasttech added Twist batteries I picked a couple up, and it makes an even bigger difference.

atlantadave - I'm still not exactly sure what you're getting at by "hit" or "drag." Do you want to blow bigger clouds, or do you want to get the "gulp" feeling when you inhale your vapor? We call the latter "throat hit," and adding nicotine or using juice with more VG than PG. Many custom juice suppliers will allow you to specify how much of each base ingredient you want to use - I started with 50/50, then switched to 65% PG/35% VG - a little less vapor, so it doesn't look as much smoke, but the feel is good, which is what I'm going for. And vapor production is still good.

I'd suggest getting one VV battery to try out - start it around 3.5V and then slowly turn it up until you get just before the point where your juice starts to taste burnt. Unfortunately to figure out where that is (different flavors, different delivery devices, and different juice makes means this point is always going to be different), you're going to have to go a little too far, get a nasty hit, and then dial it back a click. Still, I love my Twist battery - using it I can get as good of a throat hit out of my 6mg nighttime juices as I can out of my 18mg daytime vapes...but, like everyone else says about the Joye batteries (I think mine are probably knockoffs), they're impossible to read...but for $12/battery I'm not complaining.

 

[Thin]

My problem is I feel like I am not getting as good of a drag (if that is a better word) then what I would like.

Does the voltage increase also increase the intake and would you say that it is double what the standard/starter eGo battery delivers, about the same, a little bit more, etc....

Varying the voltage will give off a better burn, therefore a better drag. It'll get better up to the point where it starts to taste burnt, and this point is pretty much governed by your atty (atomizer/burner/head/). Start off with a variable voltage battery and see how it goes for you - they perform a world better than the standard eGo's. (BTW VV eGo's are all I use out n about, and I also have more expensive/better kit.)

Your next step, if you still want more, is to upgrade your atty, or change the head of your existing atty to one with lower resistance. There are many decices out there, from a few bucks to a couple of hundred bucks. Broadly speaking the more expensive ones (or should I say the better performing ones?) require you to make your own coils, which isn't difficult if you're good with your hands, and which allows you to make one which will give off the amount of "hit" you want. Marry a VV battery to a rebuildable that you've made to your liking and you've nailed it. It's also much cheaper to make your own cools - ten bucks should get you enough wick and wire to last about a year.

 

[DancingHeretik]

There is another possibility. Do you ever use dual coils? Two coils produce more vapor than one.

However, this is still not an ideal solution because dual coils put a lot more strain on a battery. Still, might be worth a try.

 

[Hulamoon]

What's the PG/VG ratio of your current juice Dave? And what flavors are you vaping?

 

[atlantadave]

What's the PG/VG ratio of your current juice Dave? And what flavors are you vaping?

I have tried a bunch of flavors, the two that I am keeping in my rotation right now is a tobacco blend and a hot cinnamon. The tobacco blend is a 70/30 mix at 24mg and the cinnamon is a 50/50 blend also at 24mg. The shop that I got the cinnamon at only offers the 50/50.

 

[atlantadave]

atlantadave - I'm still not exactly sure what you're getting at by "hit" or "drag." Do you want to blow bigger clouds, or do you want to get the "gulp" feeling when you inhale your vapor? We call the latter "throat hit," and adding nicotine or using juice with more VG than PG. Many custom juice suppliers will allow you to specify how much of each base ingredient you want to use - I started with 50/50, then switched to 65% PG/35% VG - a little less vapor, so it doesn't look as much smoke, but the feel is good, which is what I'm going for. And vapor production is still good.

I feel like I am pulling and pulling, but not getting the intake that I am after. When I smoked analogs I could throw one down with around four drags. Sorry for the confusion on hits, drags, etc... I am still learning lingo. Basically I feel like my intake is not giving me what I am after. I also realize I am on a starter unit. Hung out with a buddy the other day who had a Vamo (I think that is what you call it) and that delivered the punch I was after using my atomizer. My blends right now are primarily 70/30 although I do have one at 50/50 because that was all the shop offered.

 

[atlantadave]

You guys are AWESOME!!! Thank you for all of the suggestions and ideas. Definitely going to put some of them into play.

 

[Kenavides]

The vape game is so variable, but, thankfully, nowadays there are so many options. To be honest, Dave, I think you might just have to spend a little bit in order to try more/new things until you find exactly what u want. Don't give up. Good luck!

 

[Kent C]

Thanks for the answers. "Hit" was probably the wrong word to use in my description. My nicotine level is at 24mg and I have a few bottles with different ratios. My problem is I feel like I am not getting as good of a drag (if that is a better word) then what I would like. I have about 6 different eGo batteries and they are all the same in lacking that shot that I am looking for. So I find myself literally holding one in each hand and then into the mouth at the same time to create the level of intake that I am searching for. So I guess the question circles back to --- does the voltage increase also increase the intake and would you say that it is double what the standard/starter eGo battery delivers, about the same, a little bit more, etc....

"Hit" depends on wattage not voltage, and wattage is a combination of the voltage of the batt and ohms of the coils of the atty/carto/clearo. You don't say what 'delivery device' you're using or what the ohms of that device is. For example, if you're using a joye eGo, the voltage is 3.3-3.4Volts (because regular eGos are regulated) so you need a clearo (or coil) that is around 1.7 to 2.2 ohms to get a good hit - around 5.5 to 6.8 watts. IF the coil you're using is say 2.6 ohms, then you're vaping at 4.5 watts and even a half a watt can make a difference in 'hit'.

With a VV eGo you can get 4.8 volts and with that you should stay around 2.0-2.2 ohms or 10-11.5 watts and even then some ejuices will be burnt or tasteless. Coffee and strong tobacco can handle that wattage, but not much else. Here's a chart that may help:

 

[thefullhonkey]

My experience says yes. I recently picked up a Joyetech EgoC Twist, and that extra bit of headroom in terms of voltage has really made a difference (i.e. an extra .3V really brought my favorite flavour to life and somehow made it even better). I've been considering getting a mod like a Vamo, but don't think I need to anymore. I probably will just for fun, but it assuming the use of standard atomizers, a twist will probably get the job done.

 

[ut1205]

Excellent question and answers. I have the materials ordered to build my own Evod/ProTank heads. I will try to get them in the 1.8 to 2.2 range. This may not be the place to ask but can anyone suggest the number of "wraps" for this resistance using 3mm chord and 32 gauge wire? Second question would be is 3mm chord recommended for these heads or should I use 2mm for coil with 1 mm flavor wicks like they came with?

 

[Hulamoon]

Hey Dave - well you're definitely using strong enough flavors. One thing I didn't see mentioned though I may have overlooked it .. what atty or clearo or cartomizer are you using? You definitely sound like an upgrade is in your near future but the top bit can have a big impact on draw too...