Eleaf istick questions

[Richgang]

Hi everyone so I'm new to vaping and I really don't know much at all but I just bought my first vape. It's an eleaf istick 30w and I got the aspire Atlantis atomizer with it. I'm having some issues with it and I'm wondering if anyone can offer an explanation. The clouds aren't very big and it gets very hot easily, within the first second or two you can hear the crackling of the vape (this is probably Normal
I'm just mentioning everything I'm noticing). The main reason I'm disappointed is because I just spent like $130 on this and my cousin has a kangertech evod starter kit he bought for $60 from the same store and it produces bigger clouds, doesn't get as hot and is all around more enjoyable to use. I'm wondering if this is normal
Or what I can do to enhance my experience .. I've tried it on different watts and it doesn't seem to help. Does anyone have any advice or explanations or is the kangertech evod just better.. If this is the case why did I just pay twice the price for the eleaf and why does it have such great reviews?? Thanks for any help

 

[vapee]

hey, the Atlantis has larger airholes and the liquid can wick much faster too so it should produce more vapor, it also depends on whether the juice is mostly pg or mostly vg as vg produces more vapor than pg, but pg is more for throat hit. Before you fill the tank did you prime the coil with a fair few drops? If the airflow is closed off with a small hole it can produce less vapor and get hotter too, so you might need to experiment a bit with that and also see which setting and wattage gives u a satisfying vape.

The evod is an older tank that cannot usually handle very high wattage due to lower airflow and smaller wicking holes as well as much thinner wire so in theory the atlantis will perform better for vapor.

 

[Ou2mame]

I don't want to discourage you but you overpaid first of all. That's not 130 bucks worth of gear that's more like 50 or 60 bucks. The istick has good reviews because of its price to performance ratio. It's a 30 dollar battery that performs well, for a 30 dollar battery. It doesn't perform well for a hundred dollar battery. A sigelei performs well for a 100 dollar battery. The Atlantis is a 30 dollar tank, and it performs pretty well for what it is.

What ratio juice are you using? That could be an issue. Clouds are higher vg content. Flavor and throat hit are more pg content. Whar coils are you using in the tank? There's 0.3 0.5 and 1ohm, I would look at the 0.5 or 1 for that battery cause you're gonna be under powered for 0.3.

If it makes you feel any better that 60 dollar start up kit is pretty much a ripoff too lol.. I don't buy gear in vape shops due to markup so maybe that's why, but this shop is definitely on the high side. You need to check out vapingcheap.com

 

[Richgang]

hey, the Atlantis has larger airholes and the liquid can wick much faster too so it should produce more vapor, it also depends on whether the juice is mostly pg or mostly vg as vg produces more vapor than pg, but pg is more for throat hit. Before you fill the tank did you prime the coil with a fair few drops? If the airflow is closed off with a small hole it can produce less vapor and get hotter too, so you might need to experiment a bit with that and also see which setting and wattage gives u a satisfying vape.

The evod is an older tank that cannot usually handle very high wattage due to lower airflow and smaller wicking holes as well as much thinner wire so in theory the atlantis will perform better for vapor.

Thanks for the reply, yeah i put some
Drops on the coil before filling the tank and I also have tried it on all airflow settings but it doesn't seem to do too much and still doesn't produce very big clouds but I feel it in my mouth and I have to stop after a few seconds because I feel like choking

 

[vapee]

ah, is the vg ratio pretty high? also the nic level may need to be adjusted down if it feels too much.

 

[Richgang]

I don't want to discourage you but you overpaid first of all. That's not 130 bucks worth of gear that's more like 50 or 60 bucks. The istick has good reviews because of its price to performance ratio. It's a 30 dollar battery that performs well, for a 30 dollar battery. It does perform well for a hundred dollar battery. A sigelei performs well for a 100 dollar battery. The Atlantis is a 30 dollar tank, and it performs pretty well for what it is.

What ratio juice are you using? That could be an issue. Clouds are higher vg content. Flavor and throat hit are more pg content. Whar coils are you using in the tank? There's 0.3 0.5 and 1ohm, I would look at the 0.5 or 1 for that battery cause you're gonna be under powered for 0.3.

If it makes you feel any better that 60 dollar start up kit is pretty much a ripoff too lol.. I don't buy gear in vape shops due to markup so maybe that's why, but this shop is definitely on the high side. You need to check out vapingcheap.com

Hey man, first I should mention I'm using Canadian dollars so it's not quite the same (around 100 American) but still twice the price of the kangertech nonetheless. I'm using the stock coils which is 0.6ohms and the juice is 60/40 pg/vg, however the juice on the kangertech is of the same ratio

 

[Richgang]

ah, is the vg ratio pretty high? also the nic level may need to be adjusted down if it feels too much.

It's a 60/40 pg/vg ratio and the Nic is 18mg but the juice on the kangertech is the same Nic level and doesn't hurt at all

 

[Ou2mame]

That's a high MG for a sub ohm tank. I would look at 6 or so. He's running 8w you're running 30 that's why it's burning your throat. I would try 6mg at 60% vg

Also vg it smoother, so more vg could smooth out the hit of the nic. Vg is thicker so too much and you could run into wicking problems, but 60% will be fine for your tank.

 

[Ou2mame]

Are you quitting smoking? What did you normally smoke and how much?

 

[vapee]

yep agreed, its going to be too high to take in a good drag really, on a large tank like the atlantis with high wattages its equivalent of using a few evods in 1 go pretty much, people use 6mg and sometimes 3mg usually for the atlantis and similar tanks. The pg/vg ratio is not bad though for vapor production, it could be higher vg in theory but it should be fine.

 

[Richgang]

That's a high MG for a sub ohm tank. I would look at 6 or so. He's running 8w you're running 30 that's why it's burning your throat. I would try 6mg at 60% vg

I will definitely try that for my next juice, and yeah I'm quitting smoking I would normally have 1-3 smokes a day or way more if I'm drinking so not a heavy smoker, but I do have a juice at 9mg at 60%vg with similar results.

 

[dbrandt01]

For one, where do you live where you spent $130 on that setup? $35 for the iStick and $25 for the Aspire is all it should've cost. This is online and at the local vape shop with the exception of tax at a local shop. Honestly smoking 1-3 cigarettes a day, there is no reason to be at 18. 12mg would probably be okay for you. Are you chain vaping? My tanks never get hot unless I chain vape. Popping and crackling is what I consider to be good. I know it's working. Is your airflow wide open? I can compete with an RDA with an Atlantis at 25 watts. It performs perfectly.

 

[Ou2mame]

I came from a pack a day, and I started at 18 and ended up at 6, and now 3 with rebuilding and high watts. It wouldn't be abnormal for you to try 6 or even 3mg. I found the 6 too harsh, 9 I wouldn't enjoy at all. The thing with the nic is that when you're using a sub ohm tank, it multiples the amount of nic you're smoking. You might not be producing the clouds you want because your inhale threshold is too little because of he hit caused by the higher nic. I can't speak for everyone, but everyone I know who is using a 1ohm or less tank is at 3 or 6mg.

What ohm coil are you using?

 

[Richgang]

For one, where do you live where you spent $130 on that setup? $35 for the iStick and $25 for the Aspire is all it should've cost. This is online and at the local vape shop with the exception of tax at a local shop. Honestly smoking 1-3 cigarettes a day, there is no reason to be at 18. 12mg would probably be okay for you. Are you chain vaping? My tanks never get hot unless I chain vape. Popping and crackling is what I consider to be good. I know it's working. Is your airflow wide open? I can compete with an RDA with an Atlantis at 25 watts. It performs perfectly.

I live in Victoria bc Canada, that's good to know and I will definitely get a lower strength next time I buy some juice, I am chain vaping but it will usually burn my lips at around 20 watts within 5 seconds or so on even the first vape when it's still cool. Good to know I don't need to worry about the crackling though. Usually I vape with the airflow wide open or the second largest one. About the biggest cloud I can form on any wattage can compete with the size of the cloud on the kangertech, I just figured it would be a lot bigger as I have watched some videos that appeared to show massive clouds

 

[vincom]

where do u live, $130 way too much.
did u check verification codes, could be clones.
if authentic ur doing something wrong , did u prime the coil, did u try lower power w/lagest air holes.
take good hard drags
bad and/or cloned coil

 

[Richgang]

I came from a pack a day, and I started at 18 and ended up at 6, and now 3 with rebuilding and high watts. It wouldn't be abnormal for you to try 6 or even 3mg. I found the 6 too harsh, 9 I wouldn't enjoy at all. The thing with the nic is that when you're using a sub ohm tank, it multiples the amount of nic you're smoking. You might not be producing the clouds you want because your inhale threshold is too little because of he hit caused by the higher nic. I can't speak for everyone, but everyone I know who is using a 1ohm or less tank is at 3 or 6mg.

What ohm coil are you using?

Ah that makes a lot of sense actually, I will definitely be bumping it down to at least 9 or 6 if I can find it, I didnt realize any of that so I may have went overboard on the strength, and it's a 0.6 ohm coil which is the stock one it came with

 

[Ou2mame]

The tank really shouldn't be getting hot enough to make your lips uncomfortable. Something isn't right there. And no matter the watts it still does that? It sounds like your istick is malfunctioning, which isn't all that uncommon actually. My roommate dropped hers and it basically burned every coil she used no matter the setting so I have seen that before. A subohm coil is thicker and can handle more power, but you definitely shouldn't be uncomfortable from the heat like that.

 

[dbrandt01]

Okay, I can understand the price a bit more being in Canada. My girlfriend lives near Toronto. Where I would've never dipped or smoked with the price up there haha. Chain vaping in a tank heats up more it seems than an RDA. The problem with videos is, I can make an ego twist have massive clouds. It's all about angles and lighting. The joys of a video camera. Vapor production is good I'm sure, but what you're seeing may not look like it from behind the cloud compared to the side.


Edit: Ou2mame, if I chain vaped my Atlantis. Such as vape-exhale, vape-exhale, 4-5 times in a row. My tank and drip tip gets very warm. If the OP is doing something similar than it isn't too realistic for the tank to get warm enough to make it uncomfortable.

 

[Richgang]

where do u live, $130 way too much.
did u check verification codes, could be clones.
if authentic ur doing something wrong , did u prime the coil, did u try lower power w/lagest air holes.
take good hard drags
bad and/or cloned coil

I will look into the authenticity, I live in Canada so the prices are higher here, and I did prime the coil and have tried different powers, the lower powers make it easier to take longer drags but the cloud production is very low on lower watts

 

[Richgang]

The tank really shouldn't be getting hot enough to make your lips uncomfortable. Something isn't right there. And no matter the watts it still does that? It sounds like your istick is malfunctioning, which isn't all that uncommon actually. My roommate dropped hers and it basically burned every coil she used no matter the setting so I have seen that before. A subohm coil is thicker and can handle more power, but you definitely shouldn't be uncomfortable from the heat like that.

The lip burning will usually only occur around 20 watts or higher sorry if I was unclear on that