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Richgang

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Okay, I can understand the price a bit more being in Canada. My girlfriend lives near Toronto. Where I would've never dipped or smoked with the price up there haha. Chain vaping in a tank heats up more it seems than an RDA. The problem with videos is, I can make an ego twist have massive clouds. It's all about angles and lighting. The joys of a video camera. Vapor production is good I'm sure, but what you're seeing may not look like it from behind the cloud compared to the side.


Edit: Ou2mame, if I chain vaped my Atlantis. Such as vape-exhale, vape-exhale, 4-5 times in a row. My tank and drip tip gets very warm. If the OP is doing something similar than it isn't too realistic for the tank to get warm enough to make it uncomfortable.
I can understand the video misrepresentation but the problem for me is that the kangertech will still produce bigger clouds which is what is really bothering me
 

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Do you know anyone who vapes who has an equivalent battery that you could try? Or even go back to the vape shop and ask them. I find it strange that it's not producing vapor. I've used an Atlantis and clouds it chucked pretty well. I think you definitely need lower nic juice for that tank, thats for sure.
 

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I will look into the authenticity, I live in Canada so the prices are higher here, and I did prime the coil and have tried different powers, the lower powers make it easier to take longer drags but the cloud production is very low on lower watts
i live in canada also, yes b&m are ripoffs here but its still buyer beware, canvape has good online pricing and $!0 shipping . was 130 incuding tax
 

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That's really bizarre. I tried an Atlantis @ 25W on a 50w istick at my local shop, was using 70%PG juice and it still put out way more vapor than an my protank 2's, which are basically glass evods. I don't recall what ohm's the coil was at though.
Have you tried seriously hitting it? With the evods you gotta go all slow and steady, but the Atlantis you can really give er a good hard and long inhale and it'll take care of the rest. I also was playing around for like 20 minutes with that setup, no noticeable heat at all.
 

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Even here in the US the prices can be pretty high in the B&M's. The B&M's near me seem to price popular items like the iSticks at a much higher premium than more expensive gear. In my area, the iStick 30 is priced anywhere from $50 to $60. Even my favorite B&M charges $50 for the iStick 30. And it is purely because they sell a ton of them. When I purchased my SX Mini from them, they charged me $200, which is the exact same price that you can find online. There are more people that can afford plunking down $50 or $60 on a mod than there are who can afford $200.
 

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That's really bizarre. I tried an Atlantis @ 25W on a 50w istick at my local shop, was using 70%PG juice and it still put out way more vapor than an my protank 2's, which are basically glass evods. I don't recall what ohm's the coil was at though.
Have you tried seriously hitting it? With the evods you gotta go all slow and steady, but the Atlantis you can really give er a good hard and long inhale and it'll take care of the rest. I also was playing around for like 20 minutes with that setup, no noticeable heat at all.
I will try and take harder longer inhales, what wattage were you using and able to take long inhales and not have the heat be a factor?
 

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I'm using an atlantis 2 tank, almost the same, and istick 30 right now. Do you know the difference of mouth to lung hit vs straight lung hit? If not look it up. Something to get used to. Use air flow wide open and inhale steadily and deeply. The nic level probly is an issue. I use 3mg nic high vg liquid and get great clouds. 6 mg was a little strong for me. Atl 2 has a .5 coil, vaping at 26 watts I can take 6 second hits. It gets a little warm but very easy on throat. Once you get used to it it's a good setup.
 

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I can understand the video misrepresentation but the problem for me is that the kangertech will still produce bigger clouds which is what is really bothering me

Ok. For one, clouds do not constitute flavor or quality. Clouds are mainly an aesthetic part. I believe someone already mentioned this, but blowing clouds is a mixture of power, airflow, and juice. I will try to explain...

Power: the more power you put into coils will allow for more heat to be generated. The heat evaporates the liquid, which cools the coil down a bit.. so if you can continuously supply more heat faster, you can, in essence, create more clouds.

airflow: This is important for several reasons. As air goes over the hot coils, it brings along the vapor. The higher quantity of air that passes over the coils, the more air you have in your lungs that is filled with vapor. Most cloudchasers have a huge airflow...but they sacrifice flavor because they're actually blowing more air than vapor... it just occupies more space. The vapor is not as dense as someone who is more concentrated on flavor. Airflow also cools the area around the coil. This cools the coil more than just blowing on it, since it clears the area around the coil to allow for more juice to be evaporated.

lastly is juice. VG will produce more clouds than PG. In many videos, and showboating, they are vaping almost pure VG or a very high VG juice. VG tends to have a smoother draw than pg, but it also doesn't have as much flavor as a PG based juice. PG and nicotine give you that hit at the back of your throat. PG also is a better "flavor holder" than VG. VG is thicker, and doesn't wick as fast as PG, and VG produces more clouds.

If you were trying to quit smoking, I personally would've recommended an Istick 30 and a higher nicotine based juice. Most smokers who try vaping will cough, due to the fact that vapor is denser than smoke. This usually turns smokers off of vaping and they go back to cigarettes. I've noticed it's better to start a smoker off with a higher nicotine based juice, and a device set at around 15 watts. As they become a vaper, they may want to go higher, but for starters, it's more important to get them off the cigarettes than it is for them to be blowing clouds.

I think what the vape shop sold you is fine for someone trying to stop smoking. The Istick is a fine device. I don't know what your cousin is using, but the fact that an evod is producing more clouds does tend to put a big question mark on your device.

First, what ohm rating is that atlantis.. make sure it's reading at around .5 to .6 ohms. second, what wattage are you vaping at? Third, what do you have the airflow setting for on your atlantis?

Here's a review on Youtube. That video was done with it being set for 15 watts on an istick 30. See if that's the type of clouds you're getting.
 
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Hi everyone so I'm new to vaping and I really don't know much at all but I just bought my first vape
Hey me again... so i just reread your original post and somehow missed your opening line. Maybe the problem here is technique and experience.Your buddy's kanger stuff is great for beginners, it gets you used vapor instead of smoke. It gets you gradually used to warm drip tips and how vapor makes your mouth feel and it takes awhile to really master the techniques for using them. I'm just thinking back to a year ago when I got my evod starter kit, and it was warm and unbearable and tasted like .... and I was coughing like crazy for a good couple weeks before you get used to it and really master the differences between smoking and vaping. And now I'm imagining hitting an atlantis at any time during the first couple of months of vaping and yeah, I wouldn't know what to do, how to inhale, it would be super hot and harsh and would probably be completely unusable to me. But I've gone from evods to protank 2's to protank 3's and nautilus' over the course of the last year. So maybe that's why I can pick up an atlantis at 25-30w and just go and not notice it. Maybe yours is fine and you need to get something simpler until your used to vaping then try it again. It's just an idea though, maybe yours is acting normal and I just don't notice it when I use the Atlantis because I've got a year of vaping different equipment under my belt. I'm in no way trying to be harsh. Lots of people here have a pretty major transition into vaping, even if you've never smoked before, it takes time to get used to it. I can pretty much guarantee that if you spent a couple months using stuff like your buddy uses with his kanger stuff that you'll be rocking that atlantis like a champ.
 
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Are you putting your lips on the edge of the drip tip, or putting your lips around it? I know for myself I cannot use mine with my lips on the edge of the drip tip, it burns my lips. Putting my lips around the drip tip and I have no issue. I can get a good 3-5sec draw this way, as opposed to lips right on the tip I can barely get a 1.5sec draw before my lips are too hot.
 
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