i have noticed in most shops where you get the vape gear i see that the number of atomizers that are rebuild-able (especially the tanks) are becoming less and less available... now i think its great that noobs can get their hands on a device that is ready to use, the down side to this IMO is simply this .. if the FDA gets their way and we are going to wind up back in the stone ages as far as atomizers and the supply of pre-built coils will be gone... with these regulated mods , not mech mods my best guess is its probably near impossible to cause a battery to explode in the mod due to a improperly built atomizer , wire and cotton will always be around.. imo even if you enjoy using prebuilt coils i believe it would be wise to learn to build a coil and wick it , now if i am wrong i welcome any critique
Electronic Cigarettes and the future
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yes right now my mod is a drag with a v-engine atomizer on top of it... i started vaping back when about all we had was either cig-alikes or mech mods .. i have been cigarette free for about 9 years now due to e-cigs
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Personally, most of my gear is from online. Folks will be able to get their vapes for a longer time than they originally realized for the meanwhile.
.Personally, most of my gear is from online. Folks will be able to get their vapes for a longer time than they originally realized for the meanwhile.
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I hear ya. I recently walked into a vape shop next door to where I got my haircut. All they had was tanks.
It's kind of irrelevant with the FDA because you've got more selection online and can usually find a better deal too.
It's kind of irrelevant with the FDA because you've got more selection online and can usually find a better deal too.
A few rebuildable rtas , rdas should be in everyone's stash , you never know. I would never rely on drop ins.
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I mostly agree. My suspicion has always been that shops like coil cartridges because they are more profitable. As for not being able to blow up a battery with a badly made coil this is true IF you are using a regulated mod. It CAN be done with a mechanical though it takes some fairly willful stupidity. It is a major reason why unregulated mods are not recommended to new vapers. There’s math and you have to be careful
to this day i make my own juice lol i also only buy tanks that can be rebuilt , i totally agree that a mech mod or unregulated mod can cause bad battery fires , but in your local shops , i dont know about your area but where i am you really have to go out of your way to find a mech or unregulated mod
Great information provide Mr.ach2308, your information is coming in the future. I really like it your post. I guess Electronic Cigarettes and the future.
You'd think these manufacturers would make drop in coils which were built to be re-wicked. We all know coils don't last forever. But coils / massed produced coils are hit and miss given the fact that the pre-installed cotton could be either too tight or too loose.
These manufacturers should be looking into ways to innovate an "applicator" to insert the cotton. They could charge for that device. Tailor made cotton inside a little plastic applicator which can be easily used to insert into a drop in coil.
It's not a new idea either is it.
And they'd probably make more money with something like this.
These manufacturers should be looking into ways to innovate an "applicator" to insert the cotton. They could charge for that device. Tailor made cotton inside a little plastic applicator which can be easily used to insert into a drop in coil.
It's not a new idea either is it.
And they'd probably make more money with something like this.
My rebuildables consist of 2 rta's, an rdta, and one rda. I still have a couple drop ins but never use them anymore. These are sufficient for my needs but im always looking. I may own a dead rabbit rta one day because i like my dead rabbit rda pretty much. But eventually newbies become old hands at vaping and should learn coil building and proper wicking.
Its an awesome ideaYou'd think these manufacturers would make drop in coils which were built to be re-wicked. We all know coils don't last forever. But coils / massed produced coils are hit and miss given the fact that the pre-installed cotton could be either too tight or too loose.
These manufacturers should be looking into ways to innovate an "applicator" to insert the cotton. They could charge for that device. Tailor made cotton inside a little plastic applicator which can be easily used to insert into a drop in coil.
It's not a new idea either is it.
And they'd probably make more money with something like this.
People still drink and drive, yet we still sell booze and automobiles.
Worst case scenario - Vaping goes underground due to Gub'ment Intrusion.
Best case scenario - the market adjusts itself to make safer mods and e-lquids.
Worst case scenario - Vaping goes underground due to Gub'ment Intrusion.
Best case scenario - the market adjusts itself to make safer mods and e-lquids.
Vape shops will stock what they can profitably sell. A few years ago vape shops mixed their own juice for their customers, which was a high margin product and built customer loyalty who wanted to stick with the store's juices. Now it's all prepackaged retail juice with not only lower margins but no exclusivity so folks can go wherever it's stocked at a good price.
They used to be able to wrap, mount and wick coils for their customers. Great for those getting into rebuildables but not quite comfortable with their own ability. No more. So if they do sell you an RTA or RDA not only can they not build it for you for a few dollars or more for a specialty complex coil they spun themselves, they can't even show you how to do it yourself. Tough to sell someone new to an RTA when the best you can do is tell them to watch some YT videos to figure it out. (All of this is US experience).
Now new folks buy a pod, some juice, and if they are hopefully successful at quiting smoking can only advance as far as factory coils and the same retail juice if they're loyal to the store. Some of those will use this newfangled internet thing and discover the same stuff they get in the store is half the price online. Tough times now for the vape shop.
The one saving grace might be the FDA crackdown on underage sales. They've already gone the underage sting operations and found legitimate stores didn't bite. They also found the shops didn't stress the kid popular Juul, but more expensive pods, kits, and juices kids might be less able to afford. So now 7 Eleven is feeling the heat on sales and that might drive more adults into B&M stores.
They used to be able to wrap, mount and wick coils for their customers. Great for those getting into rebuildables but not quite comfortable with their own ability. No more. So if they do sell you an RTA or RDA not only can they not build it for you for a few dollars or more for a specialty complex coil they spun themselves, they can't even show you how to do it yourself. Tough to sell someone new to an RTA when the best you can do is tell them to watch some YT videos to figure it out. (All of this is US experience).
Now new folks buy a pod, some juice, and if they are hopefully successful at quiting smoking can only advance as far as factory coils and the same retail juice if they're loyal to the store. Some of those will use this newfangled internet thing and discover the same stuff they get in the store is half the price online. Tough times now for the vape shop.
The one saving grace might be the FDA crackdown on underage sales. They've already gone the underage sting operations and found legitimate stores didn't bite. They also found the shops didn't stress the kid popular Juul, but more expensive pods, kits, and juices kids might be less able to afford. So now 7 Eleven is feeling the heat on sales and that might drive more adults into B&M stores.
They do / did make something close, and it works wonderfully.
eGo ONE tank series – CLR coil
The Joyetech CLR coil is a rebuildable drop in coil. They, and the tanks that use them are getting a little harder to find, but they're still out there.
Just seems to me that not all parties are completely happy with the state of the current market. The industry can please it's self whilst the customer has to like it or lump it. Not a good deal for the customer !. A compromise where a drop in coil, inside which the actual coil itself isn't rebuildable, can allow for the cotton to be removed with tweezers and replaced with tailor made cotton which can be purchased sandwiched inside a plastic applicator ( A little like a Tampax except the cotton is hollow). Although this would only be applicable to vertical coil assemblies.
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