The future of e-smoking.

[TVC70]

As Ponkaw said, this is vaping's golden age right now - don't expect it to last.

Amen. I'd like to be more optimistic, but it's pretty tough. I don't see e-cigs/juice being banned outright in the near future, but treated increasingly like cigs. I agree that regulation and taxation will make the experience much more costly and much less pleasurable than it is now.

 

[madjack]

Well - first you will have to make some revolution in Physics. Caffeine is solid, so it cannot be used that way.
Mr Raoult says - no, no...

WRONG...caffeine in my coffee is not SOLID...and it is available in your juice as well...just one vendor who already does so... Nu-Juice Liquid Refill
madjack

 

[washvap]

I wonder if Rob is listening?

I sure hope so p, I sure hope so LOL Who knows, that might be one of his future inventions in the year 2015.

 

[Archer]

The market and technology is growing so fast that big tobacco will have to move in. Regs and taxes are sure to follow but ecigs are here to stay.

 

[vafromnc]

WRONG...caffeine in my coffee is not SOLID...and it is available in your juice as well...just one vendor who already does so... Nu-Juice Liquid Refill
madjack

Have you tried their juice? I've never seen so many options! I wonder what the nicotine substitute is like.

 

[Old Chemist]

WRONG...caffeine in my coffee is not SOLID...and it is available in your juice as well...just one vendor who already does so... Nu-Juice Liquid Refill
madjack

Sorry to inform you, madjack, but caffeine IS SOLID. In e-juice it is just dissolved, like salt in water or sugar in coffee. It doesn't change the melting point of this alkaloid - over 220 C. It still is solid compound and does NOT evaporate.
Of course you may add caffeine to e-liquid, but it doesn't mean that this compound will be inhaled.
BTW, adding vitamin C to e-liquid doesn't make sense either.

 

[madjack]

...if it is dissolved, it is no longer solid...is it.................................

 

[Old Chemist]

It is... dissolved. But that does not change its physicochemical properties. Caffeine does NOT evaporate, even at 200 C. Therefore you can NOT inhale it. Try something like this: put some salt into boiling water and try to breathe the vapor (carefully, of course). Would you feel the salt? I am 100% sure you wouldn't. The same case is with caffeine - it will stay on the atty.

 

[madjack]

...makes sense to me...kinda like making distilled water, all the solids stay in the pot.........

 

[Spazmelda]

I will go with an optimistic scenario...

I think scientific reports will continue to accumulate, showing that e-cigs are safe and enormously effective. Many of these reports will come from other countries. UK will be the first major government health agency to put their full support behind e-cigs and encourage people to use them instead of analogs (following the lead of their 'nudge unit').

As results begin to trickle in, FDA will first continue to twist and manipulate the data trying to insist that they are unsafe and unknown, but as more evidence comes in they will be unable to logically continue this stance. Eventually they will realize that they are looking like complete dumb-asses, and have a paradigm shift. Ultimately, they will claim that they never were really opposed to e-cigs and in the final stages they will start to claim credit for these magical devices. Finally, Al Gore will reveal that he invented the e-cigarette.

 

[Old Chemist]

...makes sense to me...kinda like making distilled water, all the solids stay in the pot.........

Exactly, madjack! This is the same physical phenomenon.
But - don't be mad at poor old Raoult. His law doesn't let us vape caffeine, but at the same time it's the basis for distillation. And, as everyone knows, there are some very nice products of this process.

 

[Old Chemist]

Eventually they will realize that they are looking like complete dumb-asses, and have a paradigm shift. Ultimately, they will claim that they never were really opposed to e-cigs and in the final stages they will start to claim credit for these magical devices. Finally, Al Gore will reveal that he invented the e-cigarette.

ROTFLMAO. Hope you have good prophetic skills.

 

[John Phoenix]

Taxing nicotine - They have to justify it or research and public outcry will get the better of them. It will not happen.

They can tax cigarettes to the hilt now because the tax is supposed to be for combating the harm cigarettes do. Sure there may be a regular consumer tax on e-liquid but no more than regular products.. not the over taxation they have on smoking tobacco.

They cannot apply a tax for something that causes harm to a product that has not shown to cause harm. That's illegal and corrupt. We have the science on our side to combat such silly tactics. The more studies are done to show the comparative safety of vaping over smoking the less fuel these idiots will have for pushing such a heavy tax.

But we know they will TRY anything to line their corrupt pockets and we must not be silent. We must flood the public and local legislatures with correct information backed up by these studies. This issue can go to the Supreme Court, and we can win it. No need to let these corrupt fools push us around as long as we don't just sit back and let it happen.

 

[wdave]

I've been learning so much lately and that has got me thinking about what the future will be like. Right now the most "advanced" PV have focused their technology on regulating the way that the battery interacts with the atomizer. There have also been some new ideas in atomizers like dual coils etc... but really when you think about the methods used to get liquid to the coil they are all very primitive and imprecise.

Might a future "advanced" e-cig employ some kind of electronic delivery system? Instead of having a damp set of fibers resting next to the coil what about some method that delivers as few drops as needed, like dripping, but automated? Maybe some of the creative mods are already working on something like this. If e-cigs will ever go-main stream it needs to be no more complex than that.

My wild guesses predictions:

In five years

• e-cigs will be fairly well known, and their success in helping people quit will make them a promising option.
• At least one US state will attempt to ban or regulate, this will fail due to public outcry.
• Something that's not a cartomizer or an atomizer or a "tank"will be on the general consumer market, it will deliver the liquid in a new way.
• Market share will grow, but it will still be a fringe "hobby" activity.
• e-cigs will be used to deliver caffeine.

In 20 years

• many e-smokers will have never tried regular cigarets, they will smoke 0mg flavored liquid
• atomizing hookah bar will be found in a few locations
• it will be simple enough that it need not be a hobby.

Think of how much has changed in the past 5 years.

What are your predictions for the next five?

The next 20?

Very intuitive. But my question is whether you yourself will still be vaping.