So I've been reading a lot of stuff on this forum about the gg or the prodigy or the sd, and I have no idea what they do or what the benefits are of using them. All I know is that they are higher voltage than regular 801 or 901 batts, but after spending money on an 801 kit, why would I want to drop another $130-150 on one of these?
embarrassing question from a newbie...
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One Word--Reliablility--all of these units blow away commercal e-cigs from china with their battery life and reliablity. So you can keep replacing dead costly batteries for the 801 or 901 , etc ---or you can get one of these and forget all the hassled and enjoy battery life that is superior, gives a better hit and his much more durable or just keep paying for replacement parts. The aggrivation of having to keep recharging batteries compared to the life of these has extreme value also--------Sun
I mean that sounds great, but what are they exactly? why does the voltage increase matter? and which one is the best?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/23262-gg-reviews.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/puresmoker/22931-prodigy-reviews.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/2923-trogs-screwdriver-review-kit.html
Waaal....many people have asked the same question and some have tried them and are writing about it...
always worth having a critical mind and reading reviews....take things with a pinch of salt and then ask yourself: "Who am I, that this type of e-cig should appeal to me???"
Happy reading.
Pics of the various e-cigs are stickied in the New Members' Forum.
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C.
They are well built housings for batteries that are far superior to Commercal e-cigs with much better manual switches. I will never ever buy a commercal e-cig ever again. The batteries and switchs on commercal e-cigs are cheap and in many the e-liquid makes there way into the battery and ruins the already cheap battery. So you can pay short money and get into a commercal e-cig that is unreliable or buy one of these and without having to constantly replace parts (except for the atomizer of course). Your e-vaping experience will be much more enjoyable and hassle free with these units IMO----Sun
Which would you recommend? Just saw some vids on the gg and it looks sweet, but I really don't know if I can justify another $150 or so when I've already spent close to $400 on e-cigs in my first week or so.
The tradeoff is that they don't look anything like regular cigarettes, which seems important to many new e-cig users. One quickly gets past that, though, after swapping around batteries a few hundred times.
As Sun mentioned, the devices will pay for themselves in a few months of use because the user won't be constantly replacing a stream of failed batteries.
Too, the production mods are deliberately designed to be durable. If they were not, folks wouldn't buy them.
I'm sitting on a small pile of 801 parts and juice, and I got word today that my Prodigy 801 has shipped. I pretty well vape all day long when I can, and as of 2:30 pm today, I've swapped the battery in my 801 three times so far and refilled the cartridge three times.
It's a value judgment, of course, but it's going to be worth it to me just to puff a few times and lay it down without having to get up and shuffle around batteries multiple times during the day.
And SETS of spare batteries for the Prodigy (it comes with four, uses two at a time) cost less than ONE battery for an 801.
To address your question about the voltage, it's not JUST the voltage. It's also having the amperage to get a consistent smoke. Think of it like a freshly charged battery - and how nice they vape then - for several hours of duration. Higher voltage = hotter atty = more vapor. Past that, it seems like the design of the device is responsible for how it works with flavors.
Maybe we hear less about hot vapor and acrid tastes with the production mods because they tend to be purchased mostly by the more experienced vapers, who have learned through trial and error how to handle their atomizers (or who have a fatalistic view that they are not going to last anyway - so they may as go out in a "blaze of glory.")
So I've been reading only glowing reviews on both the gg and the prodigy, but I don't know which one I should consider buying...I own a 510 and an 801 (which I just got today - really excited) and want to know which model (the prod or gg) would be the best investment. I know that the gg has adaptors for both the 510 and the 801, but there are different models of ggs. which one should I get? do prods have the same thing? are the prods cheaper? So interested and confused...please help a newbie...thanks
I'll have to let somebody else describe the GG, but the Prodigy has a flush-mounted top button that's near the adapter end. It's more subtle, in my opinion, than the GG approach. It's also designed and manufactured in the US, uses protected batteries, and if something goes wrong, replacement parts or repair are in TN.
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First, you have not really explained why you need another device. What is missing from the vaping experience with the 901 & 801 that does not satisfy you? It is easier for forum members to recommend solutions when they have an idea of what the problem may be.
Personally, I rarely vape on a device under 5 volts.
As I'm writing this my 801 and 601 batts are charging, so i have yet to experience them. I have written many times about my troubles with my 510; especially the lack of taste, the necessity of topping off after every 3-5 drags, and the inability of the device to utilize all of the liquid in the cart (when i get the plastic taste, the top of the filler is dry, but the bottom 3/4 is still very wet). I think I'm finally getting the handle of it, but its still a lot of work.
I have also read many posts about how difficult the auto batts for the 801 can be, and was looking for manual batts that were sealed when someone made a post about the prodigy and gg. So that is why I became curious. I don't think I'll make the decision to drop another $150 until i run into problems with my batteries, but I like to do the research before buying blindly.
Anyway, I know there was a post comparing the gg and prodigy, but I'm having trouble finding it. Im curious to see which the favorite is between the two (and what attys they are using since I have both the 510 and 801). Thanks!!!!
and breakfast...how do you like your 601. Bought it because of the raving reviews by asidrave and leaford, however since the purchase I have noticed some less than enthusiastic reviews. Whats your take?
I like the DSE601 and use it everyday. It is a great pacifier! The pipe does not give much of a throat hit, but vapor production can be very good. Battery life is decent, but I do go through two each day. It is a relaxing 'puffer'. I don't take it out of the house as it is clunky to carry around.
You have received good advice from the previous posts. I have the Screwdriver and the Prodigy. Both are excellent and much better than any PV coming out of China. My advice is if you want to use a 901 atomizer, get the Screwdriver. If you want to use the 801 atomizer, get the Prodigy.
Here is the comparison I think you were looking for:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tive-review-lvs-sd-janty-stic-gg-prodigy.html
Here is the comparison I think you were looking for:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tive-review-lvs-sd-janty-stic-gg-prodigy.html
If you vape heavily with most any device, you can burn off juice faster than the cart can wick it to the atomizer. This is very common. This is likely why you need to top off your carts so often. Even if you start dripping, you will still need to drip every 4-8 draws, depending on your vaping habits.
Since you have started the expensive journey into this new habit, get some good use out of your current devices and determine what things you like and dislike about them. This will be helpful when you are ready for a new device.
Batteries are the second most infuriating parts of the e-cig with atomizers being the first. Eventually, liquid will seep into the battery through the hole, fouling the automatic switch, and rendering it pretty useless. This is particularly true if you drip or over top a cartridge. Battery life is another issue you may face. A fully charged battery works great, but soon after, the voltage drops and vapor production suffers. The e-cig system is very elegant and creative from an engineering standpoint, but suffers limitations if you push to make the device do something it was not meant to do.
Read through the Prodigy and GG threads. A few points of interest about high-voltage vaping devices. These devices are battery packs, nothing more. They provide reliable power to your atomizer for a good amount of time. They are sealed from the atomizer so no e-liquid can seep in. They have manual switches so you can control how long you want your atomizer to cook your juice. There is no automatic battery cut-off to interrupt your draws.
The Prodigy runs around 5 volts; the GG Grant puts out 6 volts; your 510 and 801 batteries run at around 3.7 volts. Higher voltage equals hotter heating coil in your atomizer providing better throat hit and bigger vapor. That additional power can also burn out atomizers quickly if you let them run too hot for too long and drip e-liquid onto a hot coil. It takes some trial and error, perhaps a few lost atomizers, to get the hang of using these devices properly.
Some people report reduced flavor from their juices when running these types of devices; others think flavor can be enhanced. I think juice flavor suffers a bit at 6 volts
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