Well I made the mix in boredagains post and I gotta say its pretty darn good..ill post the % to the recipe here in a min
Epm long bottom leaf
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Now that I have time...I'll mix that up tonight.
Bored, my guess is you could leave the 1% of em out of the recipe.. It's a bit sweet but I do have some bitter wizard I will add to 10l and see if it levels out the sweet..
Hey, where did you get that program?
Ok now that I'm totally awake. Just google it or do a search on the forum and you Should be able to find it..
My latest attempt:
LBL #5
18mg, 100% VG (minus flavorings), turns out to be 16/84
Pretty good. At this point, I need to get some real long bottom leaf to compare it to. Going from memory isn't quite working when you get down to the wire.
Edit: Btw, this is REALLY thick. If I were putting it in something that wicked instead of dripping, I'd probably add 4% or so distilled water, making it 80% VG 20% flavor + water.
LBL #5
18mg, 100% VG (minus flavorings), turns out to be 16/84
8% TFA DK Type
3% TFA Brown Sugar
3% Blueberry Wild
2% EM
1 drop white vinegar per 5ml
3% TFA Brown Sugar
3% Blueberry Wild
2% EM
1 drop white vinegar per 5ml
Pretty good. At this point, I need to get some real long bottom leaf to compare it to. Going from memory isn't quite working when you get down to the wire.
Edit: Btw, this is REALLY thick. If I were putting it in something that wicked instead of dripping, I'd probably add 4% or so distilled water, making it 80% VG 20% flavor + water.
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Here is what I'm currently working with...smells awesome. I will try it in a few days once it gets some steep time in. I'm not trying to exactly replicate LBL with this, just create something similar that tastes good.
^^ That's some pretty good stuff. Throw some coffee in it and it would be very close to LBL or just something altogether good. Almost reminds me of the MOV tobacco line...perhaps not as complex.
Just a side note posted on the EPM thread;
"We use 15% distilled water in our Pipe Sauce. This helps thin the VG (our juice is nearly 100% VG). It also makes it more friendly in tanks and cartos. I have not heard and bad reports on diluting with distilled water. Further more I have not heard of any health risks for PG other than possible allergies. PG is in a ton of everyday products".
"We use 15% distilled water in our Pipe Sauce. This helps thin the VG (our juice is nearly 100% VG). It also makes it more friendly in tanks and cartos. I have not heard and bad reports on diluting with distilled water. Further more I have not heard of any health risks for PG other than possible allergies. PG is in a ton of everyday products".
I think you hit it on the nail with the black tea flavor
I always thought I tasted like a sweet lemon or sweet citrus flavor in it
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So I tried
20% dk tab from azure
15% lemon tfa
15% brown sugar tfa
And It's close there's gotta be lemon in there!!
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20% dk tab from azure
15% lemon tfa
15% brown sugar tfa
And It's close there's gotta be lemon in there!!
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OK, here's my take on this one, I just did a small batch. Based on the recipe from the front of this thread.
36 drops dk 555 TPA
12 drops brown sugar TPA
6 drops ethyl maltol TPA
1 drop 50/50 tobacco absolute Azure
In14 drops Svedka vodka (all in the batch)
2 drops each wild blueberry, citrus cocktail, kona coffee.
Topped up the bottle to 15 ml with 14 mg Azure VG base.
Hot water bath for 10 mins and added to a clean Genny tank with SS and vaped side by side with a fresh tank of EPMs 14 proof LBL...so very, very close. Mine is admittedly lighter tasting, very slightly so. Its also so very tasty.
I might not revisit EPM and only attempted this because EPM has been out of stock for so long.
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36 drops dk 555 TPA
12 drops brown sugar TPA
6 drops ethyl maltol TPA
1 drop 50/50 tobacco absolute Azure
In14 drops Svedka vodka (all in the batch)
2 drops each wild blueberry, citrus cocktail, kona coffee.
Topped up the bottle to 15 ml with 14 mg Azure VG base.
Hot water bath for 10 mins and added to a clean Genny tank with SS and vaped side by side with a fresh tank of EPMs 14 proof LBL...so very, very close. Mine is admittedly lighter tasting, very slightly so. Its also so very tasty.
I might not revisit EPM and only attempted this because EPM has been out of stock for so long.
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I always thought there was some sour/ citrus note in there but couldn't tell what it was; I even tried hibiscus to replicate it lol. Definitely trying that ^ as soon as I get some citrus cocktail and kona coffee.
Great to see this thread still alive! I haven't had LBL in a long time. My vape budget is next to nothing these days with the diy supplies so haven't seen much need.
I think that the LBL is not so much something to be replicated but built on. Clearly the DK is the big dog in the mix, but there are so many sub-flavors going on that it is tough to nail it down. I began mixing kona coffee M-type and Graham cracker into all off my LBL attempts and eventually found that I didn't really care how close I was to LBL but was more interested in the new flavors I was coming up with. I recently ran out of DK, a staple of my mixes and was able to put together something that reasonably duplicated its character. To this day I still mix variations on the first recipe I posted.
That said, if anyone has come close to a genuine EPM LBL I would still be interested in giving it a go. Hell, I still insist that if juice vendors sold concentrates and left it to the buyer to mix in pg, vg and nic they would be on to something big.
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I think that the LBL is not so much something to be replicated but built on. Clearly the DK is the big dog in the mix, but there are so many sub-flavors going on that it is tough to nail it down. I began mixing kona coffee M-type and Graham cracker into all off my LBL attempts and eventually found that I didn't really care how close I was to LBL but was more interested in the new flavors I was coming up with. I recently ran out of DK, a staple of my mixes and was able to put together something that reasonably duplicated its character. To this day I still mix variations on the first recipe I posted.
That said, if anyone has come close to a genuine EPM LBL I would still be interested in giving it a go. Hell, I still insist that if juice vendors sold concentrates and left it to the buyer to mix in pg, vg and nic they would be on to something big.
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