Eroll first impressions.

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JJOOHHNN

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Well, I am not sure yet.


I have batteries and have charged two of them up.

I have loaded two of them with HHV White Likes 18mg nic 70/30.

I compared them side by side to other things I have here.


eRoll VS Blu:

I charged up and refilled a Blu cartomizer with the same liquid. The eRoll and Blu look to be the same diameter with the eRoll being slightly longer but not enough to make a difference. The eRoll stomped the Blu by every measure, it was not even a contest.


eRoll VS Super Charged 510:

First here is why I am calling it a Super Charged 510. I did find some 3.7v regulated 510 short batteries as apposed to the Joye 510's at 3.3v. The next thing is I am running the excellent Ikenvape LR 35mm Platinum cartomizer on the 510 battery. These cartomizers are advertised as 2.0 ohms but it looks like they are really 1.7-1.8 ohms. I know this is hard on the 510 batteries. This 510 combo is outperforming the 808 cigalikes I have tried.

Size: The eRoll will be easier to carry by every measure, it is shorter, lighter, narrower, and weights less. It is easier for hands free vaping but not by a huge amount being the 510 with 180mah auto batteries is not that heavy either. eRoll is still a little easier for hands free. eRoll wins by every size measure.

vaping: This one is hard to judge. I think the Ikenvape cartomizer is doing a lot to put this 510 in a whole new league. Some of this might seem contradictory, I seem to be getting more vapor production out of the 510. I am getting more throat hit from the eRoll. I am getting more flavor from the 510. This is a close one to judge. Again this 510 is doing better than any cigalike I have tried and I think a lot of it has to do with the Ikenvape cartomizer at 1.8ohms and 3.7v which is probably tearing apart this battery. I am certainly not getting the runtime a 180mAh battery should give.

Auto battery responsiveness: The eRoll was automatic was a little more responsive than these 510 batteries but both were useable in auto mode.

I need to go back and compare these two again. I also need to compare run times later as well.


eRoll vs the Iken Super Cigalike:

This is not a Cigalike but it is an automatic. Since all of my cigalikes have been automatics these look like a big cigalike to me so that is what I call them.

Ikenvape has been having runs of fixed voltage Automatic 3.96v eGo-C's type batteries made. I am comparing the short 350mAh battery with both an Iken LR cartomizer and an Iken modified Evod.

Size: The eRoll easily wins here, the Super Cigalike in length is a bit longer than a standard cigalike but is fatter at 14mm vs 9.2mm.

vaping: With the Ikenvape LR Fusion cartomizer Iken modified Evod the eRoll was beat in throat hit, vapor production, and flavor. This was not a fair match up. The 3.96v and the great quality of the Ikens stuff was too much to overcome. I can do hands free with the Iken set up but the eRoll is much much better at hands free usage.

Auto battery responsiveness: I cannot tell a difference, they seem to be equal.

In my vaping arsenal these two would not be competing with each other. Iken battery and delivery system is my medium sized solution.


eRoll vs Provari:

Size: Well, eRoll wins by every measure by a super duper wide margin.

Vaping: Provari with Ikenvape Fusion SR cartomizer and tank wins in every category but hands free vaping. No way to vape a Provari hands free.


Some of the comparisons I made were a little silly as this was meant to fill the role other cigalikes have been filling in my gear.

To wrap up what I feel on the first 3 hours of ownership against other cigalikes.

It stomped the Blu.
It beat the KR808's that I have tried.
The it beats all the 510s exept for the 510 I have at the moment. They are running neck and neck.

If I changed to the cartomizers that I have found in 510 kits the eRoll would have won. If I went with a normal 510 batter at 3.3v the eRoll would have won. I have tried a lot of combinations of 510 parts and have the best performing cigalke I have so far found with 3.7v and a 1.8ohm Iken.

The eRoll does win in size but it might be edged out on the vaping side of things, this is a farily close one. I think I need to use my 510 set up and the eRoll side by side for a couple of weeks.
 
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What kind of 510 battery are you using? Are you talking about the joye 510 mini's? Not an ego, right?

No, not the Joye, I got my hands on some Panda's and some unknown ones from someone in Texas. There are 510. All the Joye I see are 3.3v. The unknown ones I cannot find a manufacturers mark on them anyplace, they are the 180's I got first. I wish I knew who the manufacturer is on those.
 
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I was pretty amazed by the hit I got from the eRoll, having already owned some "mods" by the time I received it.

Neat, discrete, classy looking, and hit like a freight train. Has it's drawbacks but it's so small, I think those jOyetech atties are pretty durn good.

If I had more social engagements I would have kept it....I don't go to a lot of restaurants, weddings, theatre, etc. but if I was back in a more urban life I would definitely re-purchase an eRoll.
 

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It is still not working for me.

I really like the size of the eRoll but I am not able to get the results that others out here get. I am getting better results from other cigalikes at this time. I will keep trying other juices and see if I can make adjustments.

What exactly do you mean by "better results"--more vapor? Better flavor? Don't take it the wrong way but you're being sort of vague. I think you are meaning vapor but it's hard to tell.
 

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Five month's and my batteries are still working:) I pretty much use it only at work because it's so small. If only the atty's wern't so darn expensive at $4. a pop. I mean, they're so small. What gives with that?:blink:

HOw long does an atty work for you? Considering most clearos sometimes only work a week or so and cost more.

I got several months out of atties many times. :)
 

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I was pretty amazed by the hit I got from the eRoll, having already owned some "mods" by the time I received it.

Neat, discrete, classy looking, and hit like a freight train. Has it's drawbacks but it's so small, I think those jOyetech atties are pretty durn good.

If I had more social engagements I would have kept it....I don't go to a lot of restaurants, weddings, theatre, etc. but if I was back in a more urban life I would definitely re-purchase an eRoll.

I am rural. I do a lot of things with both hands so this was intended to be a hands free device. I get some throat hit but not getting the freight train part.

The only reason I got it was because it is small and the reviews. I have never liked atteis as much as cartomizers but I thought this one might be different.
 

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I am rural. I do a lot of things with both hands so this was intended to be a hands free device. I get some throat hit but not getting the freight train part.

The only reason I got it was because it is small and the reviews. I have never liked atteis as much as cartomizers but I thought this one might be different.
What level nic are you using? A lot of us use higher nic ejuice in the eRoll. I get tons of flavor and huge clouds of Vapor.
 

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I use 18mg of nic.

I wonder if this is nothing but a function of watt's.

I think most joye 510 users and stardard ego users have been at 3.2v. The cigalikes that are at 3.7v are often using cartomizers at 3.5 ohms.

The eRoll is 3.7v and using a 2.2 ohm atomizer. On 3.7v cigalikes I have been using 2.0 and 1.8 ohm cartomizers. I am used to more watts than the eRoll is producing.

I have also read quite a few places where some people think the Joye tanks have muted flavor. On the other hand I have been using cartomizers from Ikenvape with a reputation of producing a lot of flavor.
 

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I don't know what the C Rating is on these little 90mah batteries. The 180mah batteries are likely to have a greater safety margin in not being over driven.

LR atties should be fine, but you'll have to charge more often...they are the same type A atty, and many people do use them, understanding that the battery life will suffer a bit. No mention of safety issues, though. :)
 
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