eroll leaks like crazy

[Zealous]

I saw another thread about this but I didn't want to hijack his thread for my own problems. If the mods prefer I will do that in the future though.

ANYway, ever since I got my eroll it's leaked. I have not changed juices, but that's not really an option for me as higher VG makes my throat hurt a lot so I need to keep it no higher than 20vg to avoid that problem (I have tried 50/50 & that caused problems too). HST the tank is almost entirely empty. I have tried storing it in the pcc in the upright position & it's upside down in the case (which technically means that the juice should only be in the tank & should not be going anywhere). I took it out of the pcc though & there is liquid from the bottom of the cone all the way to the top of the tank on the back side. Where the heck is it leaking from?

This is the same way it always leaks & I just don't know where it's leaking from. If it were leaking from the tank wouldn't it be leaking between the tank & the cone? Also, if it's leaking from the tank, doesn't there have to be something IN the tank to leak out? I just don't get it.

 

[mommyofdoom]

Are there two grooves in your case where the atomizer cone meets the cartridge and where it meets the battery?

I believe the issue the previous poster was having was due to no grooves/notches in the case. Also, are you wiping it down when you refill? Condensation builds up in them if you don't.

I'm not sure what else might be causing it... Maybe someone else can give more input...

Edit: just saw the other leak post. I thought you were talking about the leaker in the big thread.

Good luck with your eRoll! If you're wiping it down but it's still leaking let us know, I'm sure someone in here can help!!

 

[Zealous]

Are there two grooves in your case where the atomizer cone meets the cartridge and where it meets the battery?

I do have those notches but I often store it upside down after it's fully charged. I'll try to be more vigilant about wiping things down inside when I refill & see if that helps. I wasn't really aware of the condensation issue but that seems like what it's all about since it can't be juice leaking. Thanks.

 

[The_Jerkstore]

I do have those notches but I often store it upside down after it's fully charged. I'll try to be more vigilant about wiping things down inside when I refill & see if that helps. I wasn't really aware of the condensation issue but that seems like what it's all about since it can't be juice leaking. Thanks.

Not having those notches is 100% your problem. No matter what you it's gonna leak without them.....If you just got it, contact the vendor and let them know you got an old pcc. I'm sure they're well aware of the problem and they'll replace it.

 

[chefkeith]

He does have the notches.

Don't turn the ecig upside down in the PCC, or they won't line up correctly and it will leak like crazy. Leave the eRoll in the PCC the correct way, but keep the PCC LED-side up in your pocket.

And I always wipe down the cone and tank when swapping tanks.

Cheers!

 

[Bookworm]

I put mine upside down in the case when they are done charging. I've been doing this since some of them started firing in the case. The manual says you can turn it upside down when it's done charging, for whatever that's worth. No leaks when I do this, and I'm using a fairly thin juice. I definitely agree with wiping out the cone. If I don't do that, I get juice buildup that does on rare occasion leak out. Maybe switch tanks or atomizers to see if it makes any difference.

 

[Zealous]

Thanks for all the feedback on this. I have been busy so I forgot I posted this. But I am still having problems with super leaking. Gonna try to be more diligent about wiping out the cone & see if that helps. But I have also found that the tanks leak without being on the ecig. I have them in a case, filled & capped. Sometimes when I open it there is juice leaking from the mouth piece (also from the bottom of the tanks) & also the bottom of the case has juice in it (might be condensation).

I take the tank off the ecig cuz it was leaking so badly with it in I got worried it would ruin the charging case. The ecig still leaked all over even without a tank, which is just plain silly to me (lol). But as Bookworm said, it is posted somewhere that it's fine to put it upside down if you're done charging it to avoid having it continuously firing & charging. And someone on this forum suggested taking the tank off which is why I started doing that.


I guess I just need to take some time & figure out what's causing it cuz there is clearly not just 1 thing. Since it's leaking from the tanks AND from the cone even when they're not together it must be a leak issue & a condensation issue.

But again, thanks so much for the feedback & I will consider these suggestions & see if any of them help.

 

[Faylool]

Maybe the wrong atty? I've got about a dozen erolls. No leaks. Yes there is wet atty and the inside of the cone gets a tiny wet but no leaks. I do clean the connection every few tanks or changinging things out but I've never had a leaking eroll. Do you push the tank firmly into the atty? Weird

 

[propagandax]

How do you fill the tanks? do you fill into the small hole on the cap or do you remove the cap?

 

[Bookworm]

Yeah the only thing I would suggest is new attys or new tanks. Something is definitely wrong.

 

[Andy Morris]

How do you fill the tanks? do you fill into the small hole or do you remove the cap?

I hate to sound condescending, but are you filling the right end? I occasionally get a bit of condensation on the out side of the hot end (oo-err missus) and some inside the cold end, but never outside the cold end.

 

[Non-Smoking]

I do have those notches but I often store it upside down after it's fully charged. I'll try to be more vigilant about wiping things down inside when I refill & see if that helps. I wasn't really aware of the condensation issue but that seems like what it's all about since it can't be juice leaking. Thanks.

Can someone post a pic of these grooves and notches to look for? Maybe some additional detail or link to this specific issue? I'm likely picking up an eroll on Wednesday and want to check for this before I "take delivery"

 

[chefkeith]

Can someone post a pic of these grooves and notches to look for? Maybe some additional detail or link to this specific issue? I'm likely picking up an eroll on Wednesday and want to check for this before I "take delivery"

If you're just now purchasing an eRoll, chances are you'll get a notched one. If you order from Mt. Baker (where I got mine), you'll definitely get the proper one. And it's perfectly obvious if the notches are there, no worries.

A few more thoughts on leaking:

Maybe the juice that the OP has was mixed incorrectly? I believe that thinner juices will wick out of the eRoll faster than thicker juices, and wicking is most likely the problem. If I set my eRoll on a flat surface for more than a couple of minutes, it will leak. So I don't. It's either in my hand or in the PCC.

Mine has never fired in the PCC (that I know of), so I keep it in the charging orientation.

Also, if you're removing the top cap for every fill, you will wreak the seal. Always fill with a needle tip. I never remove the top cap, not even for cleaning. New carts fit tighter.

There are different types of atomizers. I bought the wrong ones last time - type A, I think. The only difference is there is only one groove in the spike next to the wick instead of three. Three grooves are meant to increase flow, but the one groovers still work for me. If you have leaking issues due to a thinner juice, maybe switch to the one groove models.

In the mean time, you could rewick an old atty with cotton butcher's twine. When I did this, I had to keep the grooves opened up to maintain flow, so it stands to reason that it may prevent leaking of thinner juices.

And lastly, I wipe the top of the tank and the cone on EVERY refill or tank swap. I don't remove the cone, though. Just a quick swipe with a twisted end of a tissue, napkin, or paper towel - whatever is handy.

Best of luck!

 

[telsie]

Can someone post a pic of these grooves and notches to look for? Maybe some additional detail or link to this specific issue? I'm likely picking up an eroll on Wednesday and want to check for this before I "take delivery"

Here's a picture of one from a google search. You can see the notches/grooves in the charging slot at the points where the cartridge meets the cone and where the cone meets the battery.

 

[Non-Smoking]

Here's a picture of one from a google search. You can see the notches/grooves in the charging slot at the points where the cartridge meets the cone and where the cone meets the battery.

Hey thanks...pretty obvious. So is this some mechanical advancement that stops leaking or merely something that people have noticed that changed? These boxes are cellophane wrapped when new and I plan on purchasing from a local B&M so I'll open it in the store. I just want to know if I should make a fuss if the PCC I get doesn't have the grooves...

 

[telsie]

Hey thanks...pretty obvious. So is this some mechanical advancement that stops leaking or merely something that people have noticed that changed? These boxes are cellophane wrapped when new and I plan on purchasing from a local B&M so I'll open it in the store. I just want to know if I should make a fuss if the PCC I get doesn't have the grooves...

I assume the grooves were added to catch minor leaks (from an overfilled, cartridge, for example). I've only had my eroll for about two weeks, but I've not had any leaks with mine.

 

[Andy Morris]

Also, if you're removing the top cap for every fill, you will wreak the seal. Always fill with a needle tip. I never remove the top cap, not even for cleaning. New carts fit tighter.

Yes, the little o-ring on the cap get skewed and never works properly, I'm trying to get a decent stock of caps its cheaper to replace them than the whole cart.

How do you clean them without removing the caps?

I find that after a week or so (7 refills) the carts get tricky to fill. After cleaning they are OK

I replace the caps when I clean the carts. I remove the caps, rinse in water, soak in white spirit, rise in water and leave to dry, then put a new cap on.

 

[chefkeith]

I just run water through the little hole and it works fine. Takes a few seconds longer, but it's faster than removing the cap in the end. I just rinse with water, no spirits, shake to dry. And I can't taste previous juices, so I figure it's clean enough.

I believe that when you lay the eRoll on a flat surface, capillary action is responsible the "leaking" of juice. Therefore, the grooves prevent wicking of liquid rather than catching liquid that leaks. When I invert the eRoll in the PCC it "leaks," when I don't it's dry as a bone. I never lay my eRoll on a table for more than a couple of minutes and I don't have problems with it leaking. Bonus: I don't loose my eRoll either ;-)

 

[malcop]

Are different versions of eRolls out there, I have had mine for about a month now, and I don't experience any leaking, I leave my spare one on my desk all the time and never have any problems, you should not have to worry about leaving your device laying flat if it is functioning OK.

Do you think it may be something to do with the type of juice people are using?

 

[alisa1970]

Are different versions of eRolls out there, I have had mine for about a month now, and I don't experience any leaking, I leave my spare one on my desk all the time and never have any problems, you should not have to worry about leaving your device laying flat if it is functioning OK.

Do you think it may be something to do with the type of juice people are using?

Me neither...sometimes a get a little moisture that pushes out between the cone and the battery, but that's not often and it's not anywhere where I would say it was leaking. Maybe we got lucky.