Erratic GGTS/AVS performance: What am I doing wrong?

[rogerdugans]

The first time I filled this thing up and used it was amazing- vapor, flavor, no leaks and the world was grand.

The first weekend I had a couple of issues which I put down to using juice which seemed thinner: hard to get juice flowing (dry atty, little vapor) and hard to control- flooded the atty a few times.
I eventually got it running decently with the thinner juice but ever since then it has not been as easy to fill and vape as the first time.

A few times I have flooded the collection tank, although I think I have that one figured out now.
I have searched, read and watched everything I can find as far as setup and tuning and gone so far as to completely dis-assemble the GGTS/AVS and start over, and yet-
sometimes I get it right, sometimes I don't.

The one thing I definitely did find is that my battery post fuse upgrade is not entirely right: inconsistent performance and will not work at 3.7v. (Tested with standard 901 atty- works fine with the original spring type battery post.)

Any suggestions or ideas on what I am getting wrong some of the time?

The only things I can come up with is that it is VERY sensitive to the viscosity of the juice, but I don't really think that is it; OR it is very sensitive to attys that are plugged or clogging.
I have 5 of the HV attys, all of which have been used for at least 6 hours and all of which act the same.

It works alright half the time, but the other half sometimes takes me a while to get it functioning as well as I know it CAN. And it has not worked as well as it did the first couple of days since... well, the first couple of days.

Setup:
New GGTS/AVS at 6v with HV 901 attys from Vaporkings.

 

[Rippspeed]

Thats why I dont like the 901 anymore because of the erratic performance... Which the reason why I switched to Turbo KR808 from VaporNine for its solid performance and little fiddling...

But, the flooding can be can be caused by a few things... When are you getting flooding ??? Right after re-fill or in the middle of the tank usage ???

 

[rogerdugans]

Flooding is generally right after filling, and I think the probable cause was not having the air ring closed all the way while filling.
At least it hasn't happened since I started double-checking that it was closed whenever I open up the top.

Turbo KR808 from vapornine... Going there now- less fiddling is good.

 

[Rippspeed]

Flooding is generally right after filling, and I think the probable cause was not having the air ring closed all the way while filling.
At least it hasn't happened since I started double-checking that it was closed whenever I open up the top.

Turbo KR808 from vapornine... Going there now- less fiddling is good.

Ok follow these steps when you refill for flood free operation...

1) close CR
2) take mouth piece off
3) take middle ring off
4) take main cap off
5) fill tank to the threads
6) verify where the hole is on the atty ( so you remember where it is compare to the position of the button ... so when tank gets low you know to point the hole down towards the floor)
7) install main cap
8) install top atomizer oring
9) install middle cap
10) install mouth piece
11) open CR to desired position
12) vape!!! enjoy


Turbo KR808's require drilling a 1.2mm hole about 8mm from the bottom of the cartomizer to make it work... Good luck and happy vaping Brotha

 

[rogerdugans]

Ordered the KR808s- any special procedure for them besides making the hole?
How long are they lasting for you? Any problems with burnt filling?
Are you using them with 3.7 volts?

And that is the procedure I am using, and VERY careful to make sure the CR is fully closed every time now. So much so that it sometimes gets stuck on me...

Thanks for the help, man.

 

[Rippspeed]

Just follow the same procedure... Cartos dont leak ever unless flooded but since you mastered filling and closing the tank... They wont give you any problems... I've vaped the cartos @ 3.7volt, 6volts, and 7.4volts... 6volts is the best though... But, 7.4volts gives you even more vapor and better flavor...

If for some reason the carto is vaping harsh just use a paper clip and push it down the center tube as far as you can without breaking the coil and just jingle it alittle bit... And she'll vape like heaven for you...

 

[rogerdugans]

Exxxxxcellent.

Thanks Ripp.

Stuff is on order and hopefully will be in next week.

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

Roger I've recently changed to refilling the AVS off the GGTS (use finger to plug hole at bottom). This way I can crank down all the fittings and when correct putting it on GGTS there is absolutely no flooding.

 

[cliffy1]

Thanks for starting that thread Roger, I am having the same problems as you and after the reply s I am now having some more success, but still have flooding in the 808 and leaking from the control ring,I would say at the half tank full what am I doing wrong?

 

[Rippspeed]

Thanks for starting that thread Roger, I am having the same problems as you and after the reply s I am now having some more success, but still have flooding in the 808 and leaking from the control ring,I would say at the half tank full what am I doing wrong?

Heres what I learned with a KR808 ...
Have the hole pointing up until the tank is low... Which is step # 6 on my do to list ....

Its very important to remember when the hole is vs the button; the button is your north star ...

So if the hole is on the right and the button is on the left side then ... Vape the GGTS with the button pointing downwards to the ground until tank is low and when tank is low switch it around... Where the button is pointing upwards to the sky... this will use up your juice in your tank ... You'll know when your empty; your taste buds will tell you soo ( burnt taste)

 

[cliffy1]

Right ok Ripp this I do tend to do.......... but then I get the leaks and flooding grrrrrr !! using GG without the AVS today cant do with the faff today lol, I will try again tomorrow, I refilled my tank 5/6 times yesterday I got in a right mess.
I think that the clear tank would help.

 

[Rippspeed]

Right ok Ripp this I do tend to do.......... but then I get the leaks and flooding grrrrrr !! using GG without the AVS today cant do with the faff today lol, I will try again tomorrow, I refilled my tank 5/6 times yesterday I got in a right mess.
I think that the clear tank would help.

Is your AVS version 2.1 or version 2.2 ???

difference is AVS 2.1 was the original AVS tanks ... AVS 2.2 was the ones with the brass connector and thicker walls

 

[cliffy1]

Thanks Ripp I will give it another go on Sunday ........................

 

[cliffy1]

I have the original tank I believe, it came with alli fitting to the bottom .....but I got the new brass fittings for it from Krom at the UK vapefest

 

[Rippspeed]

I have the original tank I believe, it came with alli fitting to the bottom .....but I got the new brass fittings for it from Krom at the UK vapefest

which one leaks ??? Another thing is you have to make sure your orings are all ok

 

[VPDownunder]

Roger I've recently changed to refilling the AVS off the GGTS (use finger to plug hole at bottom). This way I can crank down all the fittings and when correct putting it on GGTS there is absolutely no flooding.

This is what I always do when using attys, works a treat

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

Yeah, that and cappy tip using a rag to tighten stuff up, very win.

 

[cliffy1]

which one leaks ??? Another thing is you have to make sure your orings are all ok

Thanks Rip I will try the ali adapter perhaps that's the problem the orings all seem ok .

 

[Sparrots]

I was thinking of getting an AVS and now don't know whether to feel challenged or just hang it up. Just today I found my 'sweet spot' on my GGTS so am feeling pretty good.

 

[rogerdugans]

Sparrots-
though I have to admit that the GGTS/AVS combo seems to be a bit finicky, when it is working right, well, the only word I have for it is incredible. I have no intention of giving up on it.

I'll admit that my experience with pv hardware is limited, but when I get everything right I get vapor and flavor that is far beyond dripping my DSE801. And that doesn't do a bad job, per se. Just not as good as the GGTS/AVS.

Note- I did try the GGTS without the AVS and it was good, but then there is all the constant fiddling with carts or dripping. Good but too much of a hassle.

I still highly recommend the AVS.

BTW-
Having a better day today-
had to empty/refill once this morning, and had a leak due to overfilling for the first time but I have been vaping with it all day.