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Ethyl Maltol in your NET?

Discussion in 'Liquid Extraction From Tobacco' started by Mattdogg, Aug 17, 2015.

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  1. Mattdogg

    Mattdogg Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Chicago
    Hey everyone, been lurking here and there for a while now on these threads, so much good, interesting information/methods on here, so thank you all for that :)

    So I ordered some Organic Virginia and Organic Burley from Leafonly and I have it in the crockpot in PG as we speak.

    My question is, does anyone ever try to enhance their NET juices with E.M.? How did it affect the mix?

    I can't be the first, but I'll be sure to post my results as soon as I'm done filtering/mixing maybe late tomorrow or early Thursday by the latest. My planned mix will be %4 (of%10) Ethyl maltol and %4 NET concentrate. I like to keep my juices light.

    BTW, in my couple years of trying to dissolve EM crystals I just found out an hour ago the easiest method: I just put 20ml PG + 1/2 teaspoon in a 30ml glass amber bottle with a regular cap, crock pot for a half hour, shake, crock pot for another half hour, shake. BAM! Done. Low crock pot btw.
     
  2. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    cant say Ive tried EM... I like doing my NETs as straight as possible...
     
  3. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    Ethyl maltol (EM), plays nicely with NETs although it will mute some of the tobacco flavor as the mixed NET ages. Sucralose based sweeteners are better suited for the task -if- extra sweetness is the goal.
     
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  4. Mattdogg

    Mattdogg Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Chicago
    Cool beans, I haven't tried a different sweetener other than EM. I'll give it a shot.
    So, can I just do some sort of Splenda dilution in PG?
     
  5. Bagazo

    Bagazo Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 19, 2009
    Looking at the boiling points:
    Ethyl Maltol : 161ºC
    Sucralose : 669.4ºC

    I think I see why e-juice makers chose EM.

    Here in gunkland it might not make much of a difference.
     
  6. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    Most vape retailers/vendors carry "sweetener" that is actually sucralose dissolved in PG, that's what I use and it's cheap. I wouldn't use Splenda or any other packaged grocery type product because they use fillers and other ingredients that would be hard on wicks/coils. You can buy pure sucralose powder and mix your own if that were appealing to you.
     
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  7. Mattdogg

    Mattdogg Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Chicago
    Thanks guys, I appreciate the info.
     
  8. LobsterGoD

    LobsterGoD Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2009
    Really for NETs you want to use vinegar too mellow them out and get them to blend smoothly, EM is more for fruity mixes and will take a lot to smooth out a NET. Usually by the time you get it the way you want using EM it's too sickly sweet to vape.
     
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  9. Bunnykiller

    Bunnykiller ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 17, 2013
    New Orleans La.
    Balsamic or Distilled vinegar?
     
  10. Mattdogg

    Mattdogg Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Chicago
    I've heard regular distilled or apple cider vinegar. No balsamic, lol!
     
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  11. Mattdogg

    Mattdogg Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Chicago
    Oh, and btw, the results. Way too sweet with EM, the tobacco adds it's sweetness (when heat extracted at least). I'm gonna try straight distilled for my next run. Also gonna set up a mostly cold extraction of Virginia fire cured soon. Gonna start it warm, and then let it sit room temperature.
     
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  12. aceswired

    aceswired Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Minnesota
    A tiny bit of apple cider vinegar goes a long way.
     
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