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EUFORIA, Pennys' twin sister

Discussion in 'Stormy's Vapor Cellar' started by dwcraig1, Feb 2, 2013.

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  1. Waterman

    Waterman Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 25, 2012
    Colorado
    Thanks for the effort.
     
  2. BeardedVapr

    BeardedVapr Full Member Verified Member

    Dec 6, 2012
    Maryland
    looks nice, but my only question would be would anyone buy it over the terminator. There is going to be quite a price diff and I dont see any advantages one over the other, they re both tank geni style rba's correct? Would someone pay almost 50 dollars more for a rba when the terminator is on par with quality it seems? Unless im missing something, and I very well might be.
     
  3. dwcraig1

    dwcraig1 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I think you summed it up nicely
     
  4. CloudBurst

    CloudBurst Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2009
    Georgia, USA
    Just got word from the supplier and they will notify me when they are available for others. At this time I will be stocking them.
     
  5. LucidAce

    LucidAce Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2012
    right about here, USA
    Will the price be the same, or will it be lower since it'll be beyond the initial "exclusivity" period?
     
  6. CloudBurst

    CloudBurst Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2009
    Georgia, USA
    We didn't get a chance to discuss price but I'll let you know when I know. :)
     
  7. CloudBurst

    CloudBurst Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2009
    Georgia, USA
    The price will be close to the cost od the Terminator C. WOOHOO!
     
  8. jmarkus

    jmarkus Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 3, 2011
    CA USA
    awesome, cant wait! do you when you'll be getting them?
     
  9. CloudBurst

    CloudBurst Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2009
    Georgia, USA
    It looks like the exclusive rights are for 3 months! UGGG! Sorry
     
  10. chieftechnicalwizard

    chieftechnicalwizard Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 28, 2012
    Atlanta
    Some people like the smaller size, my wife for example likes the Penelope but when I try to get her to try the Terminator she will not. Also it's not a genny they are bottom coil attomizer with the tank on top, similar to say the T3 or phoenix.
    :shrug: size matters according to some ;0)
     
  11. CloudBurst

    CloudBurst Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2009
    Georgia, USA
    and....looks like they won't be twice the price of the Term.
     
  12. LucidAce

    LucidAce Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 9, 2012
    right about here, USA
    When the German vendor was first showing off the Euforia on their facebook page, I saw them also telling somebody that the manufacturer was working on an Ody v2 style rebuildable part for the Terminator. Have you heard anything about this?
     
  13. CloudBurst

    CloudBurst Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jun 2, 2009
    Georgia, USA
    I haven't heard of it but can ask. I'll let you know what I hear.

    Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
     
  14. denali_41

    denali_41 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 7, 2011
    Over Der
    65 bucks for a atty that sells out of China for less then 15 bucks.INSANE !! i'll pass
     
  15. Greatov

    Greatov Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 29, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    you should def stock these, I would buy one or two and I am sure many other people would as well
     
  16. labin

    labin Senior Member

    Mar 18, 2013
    switzerland
    euforia is probably rather around 25-30$ comming from china. oddy-clone is a tad cheaper as it's more established and produced in greater numbers. i've got an euforia and for half the price of the original (and available. nobody knows what game imeo is playing) i must say it's fantastic. i've got a 3.4ohm coil (.16 nichrome) on a 3mm ekowool wick going. vaping el torro cigarrillos (house of liquid, uk) on a vamo vv/vw at about 7.5 to 8W and it's amazing. apart from the vapor-amount, the vapor is far smoother than anything i've tried so far. now for the search of an affordable yet powerful enough (and good looking) mod that fits the size. the mert is too costly.
    and mmvapors only sell their 16mm mod toghether with the temon (a beautiful genesis atty).
    cheers!

    ps: sorry for the all-lower case. mobile-phone keyboard. can't be bothered.
     
  17. labin

    labin Senior Member

    Mar 18, 2013
    switzerland
    The decision wether to stock some item or not is not an easy one an can not be made just because there is demand. Pushing a shop to stock something just because you want it does not make the decision easier. You've got to take into account various variables.
     
  18. Greatov

    Greatov Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 29, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    What are these variables besides cost, supply, demand and their availability to obtain wholesale. The way I see it (and I am an MBA not that it matters) is that this would be a super sought after product that would have people lining up to buy it because they couldn't get a penelope either because of cost or availability. The only people who wouldn't buy this would be hardcore GG people and they aren't a factor anyway in this case (not the demo you are going after). I think as was proven by the terminator, this product would be viable at a minimum retail price of $60. Being that the penelope is widely regarded as a better product he would probably have room to charge $15-30 more.

    So the only real question is can he make a profit at that number. Will people pay that price to be able to experience a penelope that is in no way a cheap knockoff? I think yes.

    Furthermore he will again be the first to the US market should he carry it soon which was huge advantage with the terminator when it first came out. From looking at their website when it first became available, they could hardly keep stock on the shelves.

    I think they should absolutely carry this because there's profit to be made and it will help them to maintain their reputation for getting new products that no one else has and not just another discount vape retailer
     
  19. labin

    labin Senior Member

    Mar 18, 2013
    switzerland
    Let's see
    - Once exclusive contracts with Vapor-Freak ends, everybody is going to be able to sell it
    - So you need an USP
    - Which you could base on a) availability (stock big -> bound capital) and/or b) price (less profit)
    - You need to invest in aftersales: stock spare-parts-kits (more bound capital) (eg. mine was missing an insulation-o-ring which somebody forgot during assembly in the factory)
    - you can't price a Chinese copy of a product at 75-90$ when the original costs 90€

    Of course it's a big opportunity. I'm just saying: Whether he'll stock or not, it's for him to think through, not for us.
     
  20. albcig

    albcig Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 9, 2012
    tirana
    this one looks nice. i like to vape but im not much into weightlifting. i believe the german website has some clear tanks made by kirfanis. so performs like a terminator and is smaller and lighter. why would anyone not want to get it? im getting sick of the amount of steel i have to carry in my pocket. smaller mods are more then welcome imo.
     
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