Hello! I am a heavy smoker, and just discovered this beautiful community a week ago. I sit here with my rollies and wait for the mailman to come along with an eGo-T kit from the UK, and is very excited to test it out. It seems too good to be true. So that is my question: Anybody out there who has tried vaping, and gone back to analogs again? And why? What are the downsides - if any? And thank you for letting me join this nice forum!
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Hi! I'm on my 3rd go around and have always gone back to smoking but it was all due to not having a good set up. I just got my Ego about 4 weeks ago and I have only been weak twice! I think this time it will really work for me with the right equipment. I was also using a really weak juice so this time around I started on 24 rather than 12. Big difference. I have smoked for 40 years and when I go two or three weeks without a cig I feel empowered. Good luck to you. Keep steady on the forum for support and I am sure we will both do great!
I love seeing new folks in here every day! 
It makes me happy.
My personal theory with these wonderful devices is that if you truly want to stop smoking tobacco and you have the right equipment and juice, it's almost effortless and there are no downsides. The catch is having the right equipment and juice. That in itself isn't necessarily a negative but it can be frustrating getting to the point where you're comfortable. Heck, even after nearly a year, I'm still fussing with stuff. But I really, really wanted to stop tobacco. In my mind, once I had an ecig in my hand, I was done. I started with 11mg prefilled carts with my crappy mall kit set up and I did cut down but the 11mg juice wasn't cutting it, nevermind the whole "one cart equals one pack" lie left me with nothing to vape after 3 days. The day I stopped smoking was the day I got my first bottle of 24mg juice. It got better when I replaced the battery/atty set up.
It keeps getting better as I learn more and experiment with new stuff.
Bottom line, if you truly want to stop tobacco, it really can't get any easier.
Oh, I did think of a downside. Too many different pieces of equipment and waaaay too many types of juices to try can leave your wallet a little stressed out.
It makes me happy.My personal theory with these wonderful devices is that if you truly want to stop smoking tobacco and you have the right equipment and juice, it's almost effortless and there are no downsides. The catch is having the right equipment and juice. That in itself isn't necessarily a negative but it can be frustrating getting to the point where you're comfortable. Heck, even after nearly a year, I'm still fussing with stuff. But I really, really wanted to stop tobacco. In my mind, once I had an ecig in my hand, I was done. I started with 11mg prefilled carts with my crappy mall kit set up and I did cut down but the 11mg juice wasn't cutting it, nevermind the whole "one cart equals one pack" lie left me with nothing to vape after 3 days. The day I stopped smoking was the day I got my first bottle of 24mg juice. It got better when I replaced the battery/atty set up.
It keeps getting better as I learn more and experiment with new stuff.
Bottom line, if you truly want to stop tobacco, it really can't get any easier.
Oh, I did think of a downside. Too many different pieces of equipment and waaaay too many types of juices to try can leave your wallet a little stressed out.
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Here is one poll of success rate
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/6470-e-cig-success-rate.html
Very high.
Downside to vaping - keeping a variety of supplies and spare stocked, mess/accumulation of juices etc. Medium or high nic in 100% PG juices can be irritating because nicotine is a skin irritant and PG lets through nicotine TH and irritation as well as the flavor the best. VG juices are thick and smooth/dull everything PG lets though, but make thicker visible vapor. VG alone is too thick for tanks, reservoir cartos, stuffing cartos and sometimes even too thick for atomizer if you vape faster than it wicks. Most people like blends, and for most purposes high PG blends work the easiest. Tanks like 20-30% VG - any more VG may not wick well unless thinned, and 100% PG may leak more. I get best use out of stuffing cartomizer with 20% or less VG. Standard atomizer can use any ratio with dripping or cartridge as long as it flows well (flow of think juices can be increased with a bit of distilled water).
Ego T -
tank atty can use tanks - that's it
a normal 510 atty can use 510 cartridges or 510 drip tip
a normal Ego atty can use Ego cartridges or Ego drip tip
cartomizers (probably the most popular) don't use an atty but have limited lives (Boge are most popular)
I recommend getting some cartomizers, and a standard 510 atty and 510 drip tip ( and 510 cartridges if you want) in case the tanks give you problems. Some people have leaking issues and there a bit of a learning curve. Great batteries on the Ego-T though and plenty of ways to vape.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/6470-e-cig-success-rate.html
Very high.
Downside to vaping - keeping a variety of supplies and spare stocked, mess/accumulation of juices etc. Medium or high nic in 100% PG juices can be irritating because nicotine is a skin irritant and PG lets through nicotine TH and irritation as well as the flavor the best. VG juices are thick and smooth/dull everything PG lets though, but make thicker visible vapor. VG alone is too thick for tanks, reservoir cartos, stuffing cartos and sometimes even too thick for atomizer if you vape faster than it wicks. Most people like blends, and for most purposes high PG blends work the easiest. Tanks like 20-30% VG - any more VG may not wick well unless thinned, and 100% PG may leak more. I get best use out of stuffing cartomizer with 20% or less VG. Standard atomizer can use any ratio with dripping or cartridge as long as it flows well (flow of think juices can be increased with a bit of distilled water).
Ego T -
tank atty can use tanks - that's it
a normal 510 atty can use 510 cartridges or 510 drip tip
a normal Ego atty can use Ego cartridges or Ego drip tip
cartomizers (probably the most popular) don't use an atty but have limited lives (Boge are most popular)
I recommend getting some cartomizers, and a standard 510 atty and 510 drip tip ( and 510 cartridges if you want) in case the tanks give you problems. Some people have leaking issues and there a bit of a learning curve. Great batteries on the Ego-T though and plenty of ways to vape.
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+1 to 57chili and Luvs. Truer words were never said.
All I have to add is this; don't be afraid to experiment. Finding the right PV, the right juice and the right nic level all take some time and everyone is different. Even people using the same PV set up will have different experiences and what works for one person might not necessarily work for someone else. Vaping is very personal and customizable.
Dormouse, you sneaked at the same time as me again! +1 for you, too!
All I have to add is this; don't be afraid to experiment. Finding the right PV, the right juice and the right nic level all take some time and everyone is different. Even people using the same PV set up will have different experiences and what works for one person might not necessarily work for someone else. Vaping is very personal and customizable.
Dormouse, you sneaked at the same time as me again! +1 for you, too!
You might waffle back and forth for a while until you get the gear and juice that suits you just right, but once you get it, dropping stink sticks is so easy. It is a slight learning curve, but hey, I went from 3 packs of little cigars a day to 100% vaping in a week and have never looked back. Would have been one day had I got the right PV the first time. i nailed my juice off the bat but, got a mini that looked and felt like an analog - MISTAKE. once I got a 510 with mega atty's, smooth sailing
Sometimes I miss my hand rolled drummies (Drum shag), after all we had a nearly 30 year affair, and we met up 40 to 50 times a day, but we have gone our seperate ways and I am so much the better for it. And it was so easy to give it up.
good solid gear...a juice (or 10) that you like and there you go. good luck. I hope it works for you also.
good solid gear...a juice (or 10) that you like and there you go. good luck. I hope it works for you also.
I think one issue is that people wanting to stop analogs usually want something that looks like a cigarette. Sadly those have to be charged much more often and don't perform as well as some of the larger battery models. I have heard from many people they just didn't want to deal with charging them every few hours, filling the little carts even more often and it's just easier to pull out a cig and light it.
But most that stick with it soon get over the need to have their PV look like a cig and start finding ones that perform better.
Hang with it, it may take a while but you'll find your sweet set-up, nic levels and juice and be a happy vaper =)
But most that stick with it soon get over the need to have their PV look like a cig and start finding ones that perform better.
Hang with it, it may take a while but you'll find your sweet set-up, nic levels and juice and be a happy vaper =)
My biggest advice is keep spares! Burning out your last atty and having to go back to analogs or go all withdrawal-y while you wait on shipping really sucks. And if you're really serious about quitting, try to spend as little time as possible around other smokers. I tend to smoke a few analogs whenever I go out drinking and I'm still not really sure why! I don't even particularly like analogs anymore.
And don't get discouraged when your first piece of equipment goes bad, we've all bought a bad pack of smokes before, look at it the same way.
And don't get discouraged when your first piece of equipment goes bad, we've all bought a bad pack of smokes before, look at it the same way.
Hi, and welcome!
First of all, E-cigs really, really do work. It does seem too good to be true, and I thought that as well back when I first started, but the moment I took my first puff of an E-cig (an original Joye eGo), that was just it for me and cigarettes. I had no cravings for smokes, no desire for smokes. Vaping was so much better and gave me everything I needed out of a cigarette and nothing I didn't want.
That said, I did go back once for about four months or so, and it was all because of bad juice from one specific supplier. (Not the supplier's fault, they didn't make it. Whoever did just put some kind of bad mojo in it that caused certain health issues.) Once I discovered that it was bad juice by way of running across someone else who had the same problems as me with the same juice from the same supplier, I went right back to vaping with some good stuff and I've never been happier. Now I've got the hardware that works best for me and I've got some great juices and have no plans on ever going back to cigarettes.
The key is really to get a decent starter kit and some juice from a good and reputable vendor. And don't put too much thought into it apart from determining what you think will work for you right now, because it's not uncommon to get what you think you want only to discover that you want something else. Vaping is a bit of a unique experience in that it is an excellent replacement for cigarettes and fills most if not all of the voids that quitting smoking creates by being so similar to smoking, and yet at the same time it ends up being quite different in many ways, some of which are unexpected. It can take a bit of time to find what really works for you, and what really works for you can change over time as well. The more you learn about the world of E-cigarettes the more you realize there are other things you might want to try.
But the most important thing is to try it. A basic starter kit of something halfway decent and some juice won't cost you much more than most NRT products like gums, patches, inhalators, etc. But unlike those useless things, this engages just about every facet of the addiction, not just feeding you nicotine in measured doses, so for most you may not feel like you're missing something -- and at the very least, there's one very important thing you will be gaining: Your health. You've little to lose and much to gain.
And of course feel free to ask any and all questions. We're always here to answer them and we're a pretty good support group when you need it, too.
First of all, E-cigs really, really do work. It does seem too good to be true, and I thought that as well back when I first started, but the moment I took my first puff of an E-cig (an original Joye eGo), that was just it for me and cigarettes. I had no cravings for smokes, no desire for smokes. Vaping was so much better and gave me everything I needed out of a cigarette and nothing I didn't want.
That said, I did go back once for about four months or so, and it was all because of bad juice from one specific supplier. (Not the supplier's fault, they didn't make it. Whoever did just put some kind of bad mojo in it that caused certain health issues.) Once I discovered that it was bad juice by way of running across someone else who had the same problems as me with the same juice from the same supplier, I went right back to vaping with some good stuff and I've never been happier. Now I've got the hardware that works best for me and I've got some great juices and have no plans on ever going back to cigarettes.
The key is really to get a decent starter kit and some juice from a good and reputable vendor. And don't put too much thought into it apart from determining what you think will work for you right now, because it's not uncommon to get what you think you want only to discover that you want something else. Vaping is a bit of a unique experience in that it is an excellent replacement for cigarettes and fills most if not all of the voids that quitting smoking creates by being so similar to smoking, and yet at the same time it ends up being quite different in many ways, some of which are unexpected. It can take a bit of time to find what really works for you, and what really works for you can change over time as well. The more you learn about the world of E-cigarettes the more you realize there are other things you might want to try.
But the most important thing is to try it. A basic starter kit of something halfway decent and some juice won't cost you much more than most NRT products like gums, patches, inhalators, etc. But unlike those useless things, this engages just about every facet of the addiction, not just feeding you nicotine in measured doses, so for most you may not feel like you're missing something -- and at the very least, there's one very important thing you will be gaining: Your health. You've little to lose and much to gain.
And of course feel free to ask any and all questions. We're always here to answer them and we're a pretty good support group when you need it, too.
I haven't run into anyone on the forums that had tried vaping and who just hated it. But keep in mind, this is sort of a self-selecting group. People who manage to quit a life long smoking habit are obviously thrilled about it, and that's most of the ones that post. But someone who bought a vaporizer, hated it, and will never even consider it again - what are the chances he's going to post on the forums regularly?
I'm sure that there must be at least a few, but you aren't likely to hear much about them.
I'm sure that there are a lot of people who have never heard of these forums, and who bought cheap e-cigs at the local 7-11 or someplace similar who had bad results. They just need better equipment - and the support you get on the forums would help them, too.
On the other hand, there are many of us who thought we would smoke all our life and that we couldn't quit. Every time I tried, I got jittery, irritable, etc. I hated it, and I hated everyone around me, and I hated me, and everyone around me hated me, and.... Well, you get the idea.
So now I have an ego, I'm almost smoke free, and for the first time, I'm convinced I can quit.
It's like suddenly having religion. I want to preach it to the world, I want to sing songs about it.
For me, it's been great. I've had an ego for about a month. I've gone from 3 packs a day to 3 to 5 cigs a day, without getting all jittery, and without even pushing that hard. I've spent about $250, and I figure in a week or so, I'm "even", based on savings from cigs that I no longer buy. Plus, I still have 15 packs of cigs and a lot of extra vaping related "stuff". (Extra cartomizers, extra atomizers, extra juice, etc.) I'll probably never buy cigs again, and I shouldn't need to buy any vaping "stuff" for awhile.
I see three downsides.
The cost tends to be at least double what you expect when you start. Even so, it's cheaper than cigs if you smoked very much.
You're still addicted to nicotine, so it's not like "kicking the habit" so much as "trading habits". Of course, since you can get juices in different nicotine levels, you can work your way down a bit at a time.
And the final downside is the learning curve. It's not as easy as buying a pack of cigs and lighting one up, and at least for me, it's not nearly as satisfying. I'm thrilled to have cut back so much, and I hope to be smoke free soon, but I must admit that I just plain enjoy smoking a cig much, much more. Maybe that's a good thing, kinda-sorta-, since maybe it means I'll be able to eventually lower my nic level and quit vaping, too.
But the pro's far outweigh the cons. Overall, far cheaper for me. In a year, it'll save me thousands, even if I keep buying new PV's and more juices than I need and misc "stuff". Much, much healthier. No stink like the cigs have. I can vape in a lot of places I couldn't smoke.
Hi espino, and welcome to the community!
"Seems too good to be true" was my first impression, also!
Having found this forum after ordering a cheapie ecig kit (which STILL is in the mail from China) and reading a WHOLE lot, I ordered another (much better) kit and some juices (from the US, so they would get here faster, lol) I went back to reading some MORE.
I built this vaping stuff SOOO much in my mind, I was afraid it would be like the time the "Blair Witch Project" movie came out. I saw the previews and was like "OMG OMG OMG I just GOTTA see this movie it's gonna ROCK!!!".
Needless to say, I was so ... ...... like 2 minutes in...
But when my kit arrived, and I tried it I thought, "Hmm... This could actually work for me!". I smoked 3 analogs that day (down from 20ish). The next day I smoked 1. The next day I upped my nic to 24mg from 18 and WHOAH-NELLY!!! Like the clouds parted and the sun shone beautiful rays down on me... This is IT!!!! I'm only a week in tomorrow, but unlike other things I've tried to quit before, I really DO feel like this is the solution for me.
I realize I still have a ways to go and shouldn't jump to conclusions so hastily, but it's like magic. MAGIC I tell ya!!!
Nope I haven't went back to analogs since I been vaping and I only use a KR808 right now. Still waiting on my eGo-T to arrive. All I can suggest is do research on the eGo-T before you receive it.
plain and simple...ecigs work and are the best way to quit smoking...most of the good people here have 20+ year habits like myself...read the forum...ask the vets and listen to their advice...pretty soon you can help the next group of newbies...pay it forward
I just got my kit yesterday. I've smoked 3 regulars since then. Even in the short amount of time with the PV, regular smokes taste like an ashtray. It really is a whole new experience.
For quitting analogs - there is simply no better way - nothing beats vaping. I've tried them all.
... and a drip tip
... and a drip tip
This is the best place to be if you are ever need of support, tips, or advice. Everyone here is on this forum for the same reasons and we are all willing to help with any questions you have or just to support you. But like everyone has said, most relapse to analogs are due to the wrong equipment. But when you find what you like you wont go back. The vaping world is very high paced and always evolving, nd its only getting better!
It looks like it sort of does. But honestly, I'm not too happy about that part.
For me it is a hobby much the same as reloading my own ammunition for my carry and hunting firearms is. I need it, it is less costly to do it myself, I enjoy seeing the results of my personal variations and, finding what works perfectly with my equipment, style of use and, reasons for using it. Not a hobby in the sense of painting, horseback riding, or the like which I do simply because I like it though have no real need to do it, nor do I gain any monetary savings by doing it.
A hobby born of need vs. one born of simply interest or desire.
A hobby born of need vs. one born of simply interest or desire.
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