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Hello ECF,

Just curious about a few things.

1) Is there a good reason why you should keep your tank filled at all times with e-liquid? I have an eVic with a Boge 510 LR/SR cartomizer (I switch between the two, deciding which I like better) and a 6ml DCT tank on it and was told that you should keep it filled at all times - at least 3/4 filled, anyway.

What's the reason? And if there's no real reason, is it okay to have about a 1/4 of e-liquid in the tank?

2) On the eVic, are the "remaining puffs" accurate? I'm curious how the eVic determines how many puffs are actually left.

3) Also, I'm still eager to hear what people have their VW setting set at with their eVic. Currently I'm using 11W (.5s) -> 8.5W (4s) -> 8.0W (.5s). Would anybody recommend something else with the current equipment I'm using?

Mark
 

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1) It's ok to get the tank below 1/4 tank as long as your not getting dry hits

What do you mean by dry hits? I'm not really getting any "wet" hits from any of the hits I take, even when the tank is full (I don't think).

2) Remaining puffs refers to battery life

Had no clue, thanks for informing me.

3) Watts is subjective as to what your preference is. Some like a cooler vape, others like it hotter.

Lets say I wanted it to have the most flavor, with a good throat hit; but at the same time not overheat/ruin the device or cartomizer, what would you recommend?
 

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If you prefer the puff counter, make sure you have the Battery mah set properly.
Have you updated to firmware 1.2?
I keep the ohms/volts on screen with battery remaining and Watts displayed. All the critical info.
I generally keep my tank 1/4 full minimum unless planning to clean when emptied.

I generally start Watts at 7w and adjust for taste from there. 7w is within safe Vaping specs.
 

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Good to see someone else is experimenting with MVR VW! MVR VW seems to depend on the juice and probably also on the individual. For me with peanut butter cups 10W to .5s, 9W to 1s, 8W to 2s, 7W to 3s, 6W to 4s, 5.5W after that is subjectively better than any individual setting by itself, but for CinnABunn Ramping up from 5W to 8W seems to work better. Haven't got the CinnABunn fine tuned yet. I wish you could set several different tables for Wattage vs time for different flavors, as you have to load the table from the PC and can't do it manually. (At least I can't figure out how) An IPhone MVR app would be a great idea, as well as having sleep be the first selected menu item.
 

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If you prefer the puff counter,(1)make sure you have the Battery mah set properly.
(2)Have you updated to firmware 1.2?
I keep the ohms/volts on screen with battery remaining and Watts displayed. All the critical info.
(3)I generally keep my tank 1/4 full minimum unless planning to clean when emptied.

(4)I generally start Watts at 7w and adjust for taste from there. 7w is within safe Vaping specs.

1) I'm getting a Panasonic IMR Hybrid 18650 3.7v 2250 mah battery tomorrow (in the mail), and I noticed you can't set it exactly to that (2250) - what would you recommend setting the battery mah at?

2) Yup, I have updated to the firmware to 1.2. When I go Device>Version, it pops up as 1.2. Correct me if I'm wrong.

3) I do plan on cleaning it because I will be traveling back to California. Is it okay to just keep vaping until it's completely empty? Or will that effect my eVic and cartomizer?

4) Would you say setting my MVR VW setting to 11W for .5s is too high? What do you think about my MVR VW settings as of right now with the cartomizer I have attached (Boge 511 LR/SR, 2.2 ohms)?

Good to see someone else is experimenting with MVR VW! (1)MVR VW seems to depend on the juice and probably also on the individual. For me with peanut butter cups 10W to .5s, 9W to 1s, 8W to 2s, 7W to 3s, 6W to 4s, 5.5W after that is subjectively better than any individual setting by itself, but for CinnABunn Ramping up from 5W to 8W seems to work better. Haven't got the CinnABunn fine tuned yet. I wish you could set several different tables for Wattage vs time for different flavors, as you have to load the table from the PC and can't do it manually. (At least I can't figure out how) (2)An IPhone MVR app would be a great idea, as well as having sleep be the first selected menu item.

1) That is quite annoying. I wish it didn't depend on the e-juice so much. What do you think a good setting for MVR VW would be for general use and a mixture of e-juices?

2) That would be a genius idea. Being able to change wattage through your iPhone? My god, I'd be in heaven.
 

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In regards to your question regarding the battery, personally I'm wondering if that battery will even fit in the Evic. That is a protected battery and, if I'm not mistaken, will be larger (lengthwise) than the unprotected 18650 that is spec'd for the Evic.

Yes, your firmware is up to date.

I think you'll probably know when you need to add juice ... the taste will start to go south as the wicking of the juice suffers ... as the tank empties.


There should be link somewhere on this site (sorry, don't have it handy myself at the moment) to a resistance/voltage chart. You might want to do a search for that as it provides a nice visual guide to the relationship between resistance, voltage and wattage. Offhand I'd say that 11w at that resistance is too much ... personally, I'm seldom, if ever, much over 8 watts myself.

Vape On! :)
 

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As far as MVR VW, it is pretty much undiscovered territory from what I can find. Few on the forum will probably even know what you are talking about, and I am sure that fewer still have experimented with it to any extent.

I do not know anything about your cart, I use Kanger MT3's with my experimenting.

I have started an MVR VW specific thread to see what others have found
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...vw-post-your-experience-here.html#post9210507
 
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In regards to your question regarding the battery, (1)personally I'm wondering if that battery will even fit in the Evic. That is a protected battery and, if I'm not mistaken, will be larger (lengthwise) than the unprotected 18650 that is spec'd for the Evic.

Yes, your firmware is up to date.

I think you'll probably know when you need to add juice ... the taste will start to go south as the wicking of the juice suffers ... as the tank empties.


There should be link somewhere on this site (sorry, don't have it handy myself at the moment) to a resistance/voltage chart. You might want to do a search for that as it provides a nice visual guide to the relationship between resistance, voltage and wattage.(2)Offhand I'd say that 11w at that resistance is too much ... personally, I'm seldom, if ever, much over 8 watts myself.

Vape On! :)

1) According to some other people that have this battery, they said it fits. I'm really hoping that it does. We'll see what happens when I get it in the mail today. *fingers crossed* Also, what would you suggest setting my battery settings too, since I can't set it exactly to 2250 mah?

2) I really like how much vapor I'm getting from starting at 11W, then decreasing down to 8.5-8. Is there a downside to having it up this high? Will the cartomizer burn out quicker, and if so, is that the only issue that will occur? Or will the whole device just wear out and break down quicker? Cause if that's the case, then I'm definitely going to tone it down a bit.

@Alexander Mundy, Thanks for the link... I'll be sure to check it out.
 

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I'd go with the lower setting of the 2 available if the battery fits okay. Keep in mind that it's unlikely that the battery reading on the display will be accurate as a result.

It probably will mean a shorter lifespan for your carto but it shouldn't negatively affect the device as it has built in protection. Cartos are pretty cheap so if that's what you like, go for it! I found a link to the chart I mentioned in my earlier post:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

Vape On! :)
 
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Hello ECF,

Just curious about a few things.

1) Is there a good reason why you should keep your tank filled at all times with e-liquid? I have an eVic with a Boge 510 LR/SR cartomizer (I switch between the two, deciding which I like better) and a 6ml DCT tank on it and was told that you should keep it filled at all times - at least 3/4 filled, anyway.

What's the reason? And if there's no real reason, is it okay to have about a 1/4 of e-liquid in the tank?

2) On the eVic, are the "remaining puffs" accurate? I'm curious how the eVic determines how many puffs are actually left.

3) Also, I'm still eager to hear what people have their VW setting set at with their eVic. Currently I'm using 11W (.5s) -> 8.5W (4s) -> 8.0W (.5s). Would anybody recommend something else with the current equipment I'm using?

Mark

1.) When I run my 3.5 ml DCT it seems to do okay until the liquid level gets to the punch-hole on the pre-punched cartomizer (not sure what brand they are, bought from my local store, going to try some Boge's next.

2.) Not sure about the puffs remaining, I keep mine on the V/W/Ω screen. I charge when I sleep and it lasts through the 12 hour workday with ease (around 300 puffs per day average, 440 max, with the 2600mah pink battery.) I believe the eVic maintains same power output throughout the entire battery life (please correct me if I am wrong.)

3.) I played with the MVR VW once, because it was there, but I couldn't think of a creative/practical way to use it, so I never really bothered. I just tinker through VW on the screen mostly.
 

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That Panasonic battery comes in both protected and unprotected. If you got the unprotected, it'll fit fine. Set to 2200 mah, this way the puffs remaining will be an underestimate, as opposed to an overestimate, where you might think you have more remaining time than you actually do. I think the battery percentage is based on the current voltage on the battery, so the mah setting won't matter for that. For carto tanks, just use your juice until the level gets down to the holes in the carto.

Edit: I was thinking of Panasonic's newer high drain battery. Crxess is right, the cgr18650ch will fit fine.
 
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Panasonic CGR18650CH works perfectly in eVic. last as long as the pink 2600 for me.
Custom settings to program the battery.
I also use 18350 in a short tube and custom set that battery.

I'd go with the lower setting of the 2 available if the battery fits okay. Keep in mind that it's unlikely that the battery reading on the display will be accurate as a result.

It probably will mean a shorter lifespan for your carto but it shouldn't negatively affect the device as it has built in protection. Cartos are pretty cheap so if that's what you like, go for it! I found a link to the chart I mentioned in my earlier post:

Configuring battery has nothing to do with anything except the puff counter calculations.:facepalm:
 
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I'd go with the lower setting of the 2 available if the battery fits okay. Keep in mind that it's unlikely that the battery reading on the display will be accurate as a result.

(1)It probably will mean a shorter lifespan for your carto but it shouldn't negatively affect the device as it has built in protection. Cartos are pretty cheap so if that's what you like, go for it! I found a link to the chart I mentioned in my earlier post:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

Vape On! :)

1) Sweet! As long as it doesn't affect the device, I'm fine with purchasing new cartomizers.

(1)That Panasonic battery comes in both protected and unprotected. If you got the unprotected, it'll fit fine. (2)Set to 2200 mah, this way the puffs remaining will be an underestimate, as opposed to an overestimate, where you might think you have more remaining time than you actually do. I think the battery percentage is based on the current voltage on the battery, so the mah setting won't matter for that. For carto tanks, just use your juice until the level gets down to the holes in the carto.

1) Woud you mind explaining to me what the difference is between a protected and unprotected battery is? I just received my IMR Hybrid 18650 3.7v 2250 mah battery (from vaporkings) in the mail today and it had a plastic wrapping. I didn't think it needed this plastic wrapping, so I just ripped it off. Is the plastic wrapping necessary, like are you supposed to keep the wrapping on the battery? Is that how you tell if it's a protected/unprotected battery? I really hope not... :facepalm:

2) Thank you for letting me know how much to set it at. That was very helpful.

Here's a link to which battery I purchased, please tell me if it's a protected/unprotected battery: IMR HYBRID 18650 3.7v 2250mAh battery

And to everybody else, thanks for the info! Still got lots to learn.
 

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1) Sweet! As long as it doesn't affect the device, I'm fine with purchasing new cartomizers.



1) Woud you mind explaining to me what the difference is between a protected and unprotected battery is? I just received my IMR Hybrid 18650 3.7v 2250 mah battery (from vaporkings) in the mail today and it had a plastic wrapping. I didn't think it needed this plastic wrapping, so I just ripped it off. Is the plastic wrapping necessary, like are you supposed to keep the wrapping on the battery? Is that how you tell if it's a protected/unprotected battery? I really hope not... :facepalm:

2) Thank you for letting me know how much to set it at. That was very helpful.

Here's a link to which battery I purchased, please tell me if it's a protected/unprotected battery: IMR HYBRID 18650 3.7v 2250mAh battery

And to everybody else, thanks for the info! Still got lots to learn.

Check my edit on that post. That battery is fine. The plastic wrapping was just packaging, I assume. If you took the grey protective covering off the battery, DO NOT use it. Protected batteries have a circuit that cuts off if they are draining too fast, so they don't get too hot. IMR batteries use a safer chemistry and usually aren't protected.
 

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@Kable,

Thanks for the update. I really hope the clear plastic wrapping around the battery wasn't something important. The grey wrapping is still in tact, I knew not to rip that off.

How are these batteries though? I only bought this because somebody recommended it to me so that my eVic doesn't overheat as fast. Is that a true statement? What other benefits are there to these batteries, if any?
 
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