Had a Vamo for about a month and can't complain it's been a solid device, but had me looking for more. Now I got an evic on the way and I'm getting excited. Those who have used both or just have an evic, I would appreciate your opinions.
Evic vs Vamo
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I like my eVic a lot more than my Vamo. But I have to say, my Vamo has taken some abuse and keeps on coming back for more. My eVic is fine so far, but I am only a couple of weeks into it. Lots of nice features. I like the VW deal for when I am constantly switching atomizers.
I have both and like both for different reasons. I stripped the threads on my evic in a few weeks so be carefull. I like when i screw a tank on my vamo it just stops the evic starts to tighten and over time it pulls the threads. My problem was id bump my tank and it would lean so either straighten it or unscrew it to fix it and that is what lead to the threads stripping out. So i put an air control thing on and now i screw into it and save the evic threads.
I've heard about the eVic threads not being very tough, particularly if you switch tanks/cartos a lot. I make it a point not to switch mine any more than absolutely necessary until I can get one of those airflow things from madvapes. I have my other mods set up with different flavors so I don't have to keep switching on/off the eVic
I'm sure somewhere out there a Provari owner is having kittens...
Nope, the threads they are talking about is the threading where you screw in your carto, clearo or whatevero
I heard of people just using the 510 to ego adapter as well to save your threads, doesn't look as cool though, and I know on the vamo you have to screw the adapter on perfect for it to work right.
Well I change my tanks/Kangers and other devices several times a day and have for 3 months without issues.
2 things you have to do.
Never bind the threads(on any device)
Be aware of thread Slop between devices.
I have a Smok vivi tank that has THE WORST factory threading I have ever seen. almost a full size under standard 510. This is what causes binding and cross threading that trashes your device.
Also, tank supports are sold by most venders for a reason. They work to hold tanks securely in place.
2 things you have to do.
Never bind the threads(on any device)
Be aware of thread Slop between devices.
I have a Smok vivi tank that has THE WORST factory threading I have ever seen. almost a full size under standard 510. This is what causes binding and cross threading that trashes your device.
Also, tank supports are sold by most venders for a reason. They work to hold tanks securely in place.
am i mistaken that the numbers for the evic are a little more than off in terms of output? i know the firmware update fixed some issues, but from what i've read, there are still a lot of voltage restrictions and automatic cutoffs that limit the user, regardless of setting. its a great idea and if it didn't feel so cheaply made, i might lean more towards it simply for the fact that it updates it's o.s. it's a really neat idea, and when that technology makes it's way into a really well made, durable body, watch out world!
but i was just on the fence between the two of them, and i went with the vamo. solid construction, ease of functionality, more accurate numbers, and price...you get a solid vv/vw device that makes a great knock around or back up device with all the bells and whistles (minus the puff counter...whatever) for around 50 bucks. how can you beat that?
it's the perfect toy to keep me busy until i can get my hands on a billet box! :}
but i was just on the fence between the two of them, and i went with the vamo. solid construction, ease of functionality, more accurate numbers, and price...you get a solid vv/vw device that makes a great knock around or back up device with all the bells and whistles (minus the puff counter...whatever) for around 50 bucks. how can you beat that?
it's the perfect toy to keep me busy until i can get my hands on a billet box! :}
Feel is subjective. Try an eVic with the Siam mod(SS tube upgrade) makes it feel quite stout from those that have upgraded theirs. eVic is limited, ie 5v max but it's numbers are published and very close. All electronic designs have slight tolerance variances. TV's, cell phones, PC's, everything.
Vamo is Not True to what you read on screen. You will NOT get 15w from a single 18650 in the Vamo. 15w on screen is simply what you are requesting from the unit, not what it will deliver.
eVic chooses to monitor output capability. So, if it stops at 9.2w on a 3.2ohm Carto it is saying that is Production limit for that device to achieve 5v.(estimated example) Honesty in a device and we bust it for being limited.
I own an eVic and a VAMO and like the eVic a lot better.
VAMO disadvantages:
1. won't take T2s, T3s and some other equipment without an adapter.
2. VW mode can only be set in 0.5 watt increments vs. 0.1 watt for the eVic
3. much smaller, less attractive and less informative display
4. no onboard charging or pass-through capability
5. no upgradable firmware or software
6. no ability to vary the voltage or wattage over the course of a single puff (MVR VV / MVR VW mode)
7. the rattlesnake sound it makes when vaping
8. slightly bigger and much heavier than the eVic, though this comes down to personal preference.
VAMO advantages:
1. less expensive currently
2. in 18650 mode, better emergency tool if you are stuck in a car sinking into an icy lake and need to break out the glass. Also, a better improvised weapon.
I have had my eVic for a few months now, change what is on top frequently, and haven't had any problems with the threads, but I am careful when changing whatever is on top and never tighten it down real hard.
VAMO disadvantages:
1. won't take T2s, T3s and some other equipment without an adapter.
2. VW mode can only be set in 0.5 watt increments vs. 0.1 watt for the eVic
3. much smaller, less attractive and less informative display
4. no onboard charging or pass-through capability
5. no upgradable firmware or software
6. no ability to vary the voltage or wattage over the course of a single puff (MVR VV / MVR VW mode)
7. the rattlesnake sound it makes when vaping
8. slightly bigger and much heavier than the eVic, though this comes down to personal preference.
VAMO advantages:
1. less expensive currently
2. in 18650 mode, better emergency tool if you are stuck in a car sinking into an icy lake and need to break out the glass. Also, a better improvised weapon.
I have had my eVic for a few months now, change what is on top frequently, and haven't had any problems with the threads, but I am careful when changing whatever is on top and never tighten it down real hard.
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Feel is subjective. Try an eVic with the Siam mod(SS tube upgrade) makes it feel quite stout from those that have upgraded theirs. eVic is limited, ie 5v max but it's numbers are published and very close. All electronic designs have slight tolerance variances. TV's, cell phones, PC's, everything.
Vamo is Not True to what you read on screen. You will NOT get 15w from a single 18650 in the Vamo. 15w on screen is simply what you are requesting from the unit, not what it will deliver.
eVic chooses to monitor output capability. So, if it stops at 9.2w on a 3.2ohm Carto it is saying that is Production limit for that device to achieve 5v.(estimated example) Honesty in a device and we bust it for being limited.
sorry, but i have to disagree-feel is not subjective, at all. there is a huge difference in build quality between the evic and the vamo. the evic is kind of flimsy. you actually would HAVE to invest in the siam mods sleeve or something similar to protect it from the impact of a fall or something, not to mention the head, which contains the "brain" of the unit is an accident waiting to happen if it tips over or falls. the threads are "meh", and it's really not a very well built device at all. it does a lot of cool things, and the fact that the firmware can be updated is neat and all, but you can't compare the build quality between the two.
i'm not trying to start a war here, i'm just pointing out that there are a lot of vulnerable sections in terms of design for such an advanced pv.
I've had my evic for 6 wks now, and my segelei zmax for a week. Been using the zmax the most to see how it performs against the evic. At first i thought it was pretty even, but as I tried different tanks, juice, ect. on the zmax, I must say its winning me over. The build quality is awesome, but most importantly, is the way this thing takes a vape. The zmax hits hard, you feel the hit, taste the juice, with a lot of vapor( it's a higher amp mod, than the evic) Don't get me wrong, I like the evic, it's cool and I'll still use it, but this zmax is becoming my favorite for sure.
yeah, the segelei took the zmax to a whole other level from what i ready. i think the evic has a LOT of potential, especially given the fact that you can update the firmware and keep track of your vaping habits (should you want to know how many puffs you take per day or whatever). i just think it has a way to go in terms of design and build. i've seen so many broken ones that it's not even funny anymore. but much like cell phones and other electronic accessories, all it needs is some time to improve. when they come out with a version 2 or whatever, i'm pretty sure this will be addressed.
Just got my evic a few hours ago so it's a quick comparison but I can definietly tell the build quality on the evic is a bit more fragile then the Vamo. I used an iclear 16 on each device at the same wattage and the Vamo hit just a tad harder. I am just starting to get used to the evic though and am interested in getting down the MVR functions. A lot to play with so that's fun for me, but the Vamo definitely holds its own, a solid device for sure.
I loved my Vamo, then I bought a ProVari and loved that so much more.
Then I just bought an eVic, the ProVari has gone into the drawer while I play around with the eVic.
No real problems yet, first day was hit and miss, second day great now on my third day.
Love the screen functions, and the puff counter stuff.
Then I just bought an eVic, the ProVari has gone into the drawer while I play around with the eVic.
No real problems yet, first day was hit and miss, second day great now on my third day.
Love the screen functions, and the puff counter stuff.
respectfully disagree. I own both. Actually 2 eVics and the Vamo. I've already had my share of tip overs and drops with the eVics and they are still working fine.
Yes, I could pound nails with the Vamo, but that is not why I purchase APV's.
Vamo is nice and does a decent job.
eVic is much more accurate and does its job flawlessly within specs.
Made one of mine into a mini with a simple 18350 tube and Carbon Fiber wrap. Vivi STV on top and it travels to work daily.
Vamo is for out on the Deck with the grand kids splashing and trashing.
As for the SIAM mods, that is just for those that feel a mod must be heavy to be good.
Take a look at the thickness of the eVic battery tube. Yes it is aluminum. it is also suffecently thick enough to prevent damage in a normal drop.
Yes the head is more fragile. Anyone ever notice it is a full acrylic cylinder? Look from an angle to see why. The screen is an LCD and has to be back set due to size and surface used for information.
Vamo can't do it
Provari can't do it
If ya don't get it ya don't get it.
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I got my vamo a couple of weeks ago and have been using it almost exclusively to get a solid comparison. I agree with most of what is above, but here are a couple of additions:
Before comparing vamo/evic, make sure the vamo is in No2 (RMS) mode. (Hold either button for 10ish seconds - first it'll show battery/ohms, keep holding. It'll eventually say "No1" - AVG - or "No2" - RMS. If it says No1, you were already in RMS, so just do it again..)
There are 2 things I dislike about the evic in this comparison:
- Menu layout. Hopefully they'll fix this in an update.
- Outdoor visibility. In anything resembling sunlight, the screen is flat out not visible. (This would be a little better if the menus were a little better - I shouldn't have to go inside to put it to sleep and stick it in a pocket.)
The only issue I've had with my evic has been a little juice in the scroll-wheel, makes it bind up a little. (Worse with the ego-t 18350 tube.)
Things the vamo does better:
- More power, should you need it. (15W)
- Stacking gives a better high-wattage vape, since it doesn't have to work as hard. (Except that is what caused mine to come apart - it is just press-fit together, and stacking puts a lot of pressure on that pin. No real damage, I put it back together by hand with no issues. I'm going to rough it with sandpaper and press it back this weekend, to give it a tighter fit.)
- Repairs, thanks to the fact its just held together with friction and replacement boards are available.
Durability is actually a toss-up here. The vamo broke due to 'normal use' (stacked 18350s is supported..) but it is easily fixed. The evic has been dropped, tossed, sat on (hard enough to pull the guts from the carto in the tank that was in it) etc and is fine, but at the end of the day a metal tube is less fragile than a plastic one..
As a closing thought, a couple of the things I love with the evic are the MVS VW, and the immediate on-screen display of resistance when you put a new head on. (Also, as a lot of people, I have the left-side display set to ohms/volts.)
Before comparing vamo/evic, make sure the vamo is in No2 (RMS) mode. (Hold either button for 10ish seconds - first it'll show battery/ohms, keep holding. It'll eventually say "No1" - AVG - or "No2" - RMS. If it says No1, you were already in RMS, so just do it again..)
There are 2 things I dislike about the evic in this comparison:
- Menu layout. Hopefully they'll fix this in an update.
- Outdoor visibility. In anything resembling sunlight, the screen is flat out not visible. (This would be a little better if the menus were a little better - I shouldn't have to go inside to put it to sleep and stick it in a pocket.)
The only issue I've had with my evic has been a little juice in the scroll-wheel, makes it bind up a little. (Worse with the ego-t 18350 tube.)
Things the vamo does better:
- More power, should you need it. (15W)
- Stacking gives a better high-wattage vape, since it doesn't have to work as hard. (Except that is what caused mine to come apart - it is just press-fit together, and stacking puts a lot of pressure on that pin. No real damage, I put it back together by hand with no issues. I'm going to rough it with sandpaper and press it back this weekend, to give it a tighter fit.)
- Repairs, thanks to the fact its just held together with friction and replacement boards are available.
Durability is actually a toss-up here. The vamo broke due to 'normal use' (stacked 18350s is supported..) but it is easily fixed. The evic has been dropped, tossed, sat on (hard enough to pull the guts from the carto in the tank that was in it) etc and is fine, but at the end of the day a metal tube is less fragile than a plastic one..
As a closing thought, a couple of the things I love with the evic are the MVS VW, and the immediate on-screen display of resistance when you put a new head on. (Also, as a lot of people, I have the left-side display set to ohms/volts.)
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