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+1 on the VTC Mini problem in Ti mode giving a weak, vape. I've used only Ti wire, with two different atomizers, including a clr coil in the Ego Mega tank, and both single and dual Ti coils in a Plume Veil clone rda. Unusable in Ti mode. Temp shown with a quick click of the fire button sometimes shows 70F, then a moment later, with another short click, it shows 170F. If that's true, then the coil is heating up with that quick click, which is no good as it would mean that you can't even lock in an accurate coil resistance. Flakey behavior to say the least.

Also, I have never seen the old/new atomizer selection message, regardless of what I did, nor when changing atomizers.

Using the Ti coils in Ni mode the unit works pretty well. Power mode works well.

Just wanted to weigh in, as I think there could be many people having these issues. I've been waiting patiently for a firmware update, but at least it's working in Ni mode. I love the build quality and form factor, and the alternatives that I'm aware of aren't that appealing, nor do I want to spend more, since I can't return the Mini.

Hi and welcome to the " I wish I hadn't bought a mini" thread. I only get the new/same coil question if I fire an atty unscrew then put back on hot and hold the fire button down. It only detects a resistance change that's higher not lower so a new atty that's cold won't throw it up it just resets the base resistance which is how it's designed. I didn't think it was working for me and I missed the question to begin with as it only shows when you put a warm atty on and immediately hold down the fire button.
Which hardware version is yours?
 
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Tried my cousin's new eVic-Vt mini last night. Solid feel, the paint work looks good. Not too sure how to use this "by-pass" thingy. ^^

It works like a mechanical mod only it's regulated. Basically it will fire as much power from the battery as possible through your coil but with the added benefit of not letting the battery discharge below a safe level and entering thermal runaway but given how joyetech can't get temperature protection to work I would not trust this feature imo!
 

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It works as it should in power mode, love the screen on it. Maybe a touch underpowered but hardly noticeable and with the bonus of replacable battery. If you like the form factor go for it but I would not buy it just for the temp control feature as it's a gamble.


Thank you, Not interested in TC at all to be honest, just want a good solid device for running my gs air-m at 15 watts or there abouts.

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Seems to be the way things are done these days huh?
Yeah sad but true, the irony is that one of its main selling features is firmware upgradability! Think I might have to save up for a DNA 200, gonna wait for pbusardo to finish his trilogy b4 I pull the trigger though.
Kicking myself for preordering the nebox from kanger now as I'm bound to get screwed being an early adopter lol.
 
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Thank you, Not interested in TC at all to be honest, just want a good solid device for running my gs air-m at 15 watts or there abouts.

Cheers
Well in that case you won't be disappointed. You going just for the mod or with the mega tank? If you get the tank strongly recommend the clr coils for it.:thumbs:
 

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Well in that case you won't be disappointed. You going just for the mod or with the mega tank? If you get the tank strongly recommend the clr coils for it.:thumbs:

Just the mod, loving the gs air-m tank great flavour, good clouds and suits my needs :)
 

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Ok I thought I would have one last look at the mini last night b4 I gave up on trying to get temp control working. I decided to strip it down and have a look inside as it's so simple to get apart. Before I go any further though am I right in thinking there are multiple hardware revisions suffering or is it only v1.30. Can we list all the afflicted versions please?

The reason I ask is that if it's only a single revision suffering and it's a fault on the board I would expect to see many more people with these problems but we seem to be a very small minority. If it was a firmware issue i would again expect to see many more complaints about this device spread over all the revisions. But from searching around I've seen only a few cases listed and starting to think this is qc issue from there assembly line, specifically from a soldering stand point when there soldering the 510 on to the board. My thinking is bad soldering = fluctuations in resistances = piss poor performance.

I should have taken some pics but bottom line is when I opened mine up the soldering between the ground lead and the 510 connection is a shocking mess and my 5 year old could have done a better job. I didnt get any further as it was very late and have left it on the bench in pieces. Could this be the culprit I wonder? Any opinions welcome, am I barking up the wrong tree ere? Is the ground of the 510 stainless and if so do I need anything special to attempt a resolder?
 

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I should have taken some pics but bottom line is when I opened mine up the soldering between the ground lead and the 510 connection is a shocking mess and my 5 year old could have done a better job. I didnt get any further as it was very late and have left it on the bench in pieces. Could this be the culprit I wonder? Any opinions welcome, am I barking up the wrong tree ere? Is the ground of the 510 stainless and if so do I need anything special to attempt a resolder?

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/evic-vt-mini.695518/page-51#post-16680767

I Really hope that is it, it would make sense. If there is a way to remove the plastic center that holds the pin I would do that before you resolder the ground to the 510 barrel. Those have a tendency to melt and usually unscrew so you might need to unsolder the pin wire as well. I would touch up the board connections while I am at it too.

I didn't pull mine apart as I figured there would be a security sticker over a screw like on the IPV products.

Good Luck!
 
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It worked ok the first day I guess. Then... resistance change.... anemic vape. Mine is hw rev: 1.10, so it seems it affects multiple revisions.
Check your connections. It might be evic's problem, but i had the same thing happening, only to find out later, that one of my screws in the atty got loose.
 
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Ok I thought I would have one last look at the mini last night b4 I gave up on trying to get temp control working. I decided to strip it down and have a look inside as it's so simple to get apart. Before I go any further though am I right in thinking there are multiple hardware revisions suffering or is it only v1.30. Can we list all the afflicted versions please?

The reason I ask is that if it's only a single revision suffering and it's a fault on the board I would expect to see many more people with these problems but we seem to be a very small minority. If it was a firmware issue i would again expect to see many more complaints about this device spread over all the revisions. But from searching around I've seen only a few cases listed and starting to think this is qc issue from there assembly line, specifically from a soldering stand point when there soldering the 510 on to the board. My thinking is bad soldering = fluctuations in resistances = piss poor performance.

I should have taken some pics but bottom line is when I opened mine up the soldering between the ground lead and the 510 connection is a shocking mess and my 5 year old could have done a better job. I didnt get any further as it was very late and have left it on the bench in pieces. Could this be the culprit I wonder? Any opinions welcome, am I barking up the wrong tree ere? Is the ground of the 510 stainless and if so do I need anything special to attempt a resolder?
Actually seeing the pics would help. I would think though that if it was a poor 510 solder point fluctuating resistance would cause a constant issue in tc mode and not just an issue after the unit goes into a sleep mode.

The issues that I am hearing are centered around sleep mode and are almost as if the unit functions perfectly meaning the processor is compensating and adjusting all the temperature variables under all temps and loads until the point when it enters sleep mode while the internal temperature of the board is high due to heat generated during use and power is being deprived to the processor keeping track of the changes when is goes to sleep. At that point the processor is not compensating for resistance changes occurring for the cooling of the board while idle and it is waking under the belief the atty is at a lower base resistance than it actually is. It is initializing TC upon waking from sleep by using the last figures it had in memory of board temperature and calculated current resistance at that point in time, reading current temperature of board and adjusting the old number for calculated resistance to what it should be for current board temperature rather than initializing with a clean board temperature reading and actual atomizer resistance.
 

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Check your connections. It might be evic's problem, but i had the same thing happening, only to find out later, that one of my screws in the atty got loose.
Same thing with different attys...We just have to wait and see if a fw upgrade will solve it. Until then, puffin away in power mode :)
 
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I think it would be helpful if people posting about problems (and those stating no problems) would provide more information about the device (hardware/software revision), atomizer and coil used (packaged vs DIY with ohm reading), temp/wattage settings, and how often it happens. That way the information can be compiled and possibly tested by other users to see if it affects them.
 
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It worked ok the first day I guess. Then... resistance change.... anemic vape. Mine is hw rev: 1.10, so it seems it affects multiple revisions.

Ok so if everything checks out with ur atty then it appears version 1.10 is on the list too. As far as I can find out this is the latest version too?
 

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Yeah sad but true, the irony is that one of its main selling features is firmware upgradability! Think I might have to save up for a DNA 200, gonna wait for pbusardo to finish his trilogy b4 I pull the trigger though.
Kicking myself for preordering the nebox from kanger now as I'm bound to get screwed being an early adopter lol.
Highly recommend the dna200s even after having a Hana V200 board fail. Hana blew me off but Evolv replaced the Board. Kanger Nebox looks to be what I'm looking for in a mod for a long time, but I'm gonna wait for initial reports & Reviews. Hopefully Joyetech will have solved the sleep issue by then & incorporated the Evic vtc control panel into an Egrip TC 10ml model.
 

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Same thing with different attys...We just have to wait and see if a fw upgrade will solve it. Until then, puffin away in power mode :)

Ok so ruled out possible atty problem so that's interesting that it worked to start with as mine has done it from the beginning. Thinking repeated heating of the board, dry solder joint getting worse?
 
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