eVic-VT mini?

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Jesse Wright

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I've had the same problem with the full size vt and the mini, and got the same response of 'that is what it is meant to do' really TC is meant to give you no power and vapor, because when it hit temp protection straight away and only puts out a few watts of power, you're not getting anything from it, sorry but it is very frustrating when so many people have good luck with it :)

I strongly believe it is due to not getting a good connection from the tank to the vt, same as you, I have builds that work on other TC mods, but put on vt and it doesn't work anymore.

I got some CLR-Ti heads coming today, so hoping as they made by the same company as the vt, they might work well, if not, still a good power mod though ;)
This is very weird. Do you have any builds that do work in tc on your evics? You've found it's due to the 510 connection then? Because it is spring loaded I would think that once it's on it's on.
 

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    This is very weird. Do you have any builds that do work in tc on your evics? You've found it's due to the 510 connection then? Because it is spring loaded I would think that once it's on it's on.

    I've had where a nickel build will work for a few hours and then go back to not working properly, the longest I got it to work was 6 hours, went to bed, got up the next day and again wouldn't work, so I gave up till I get these CLR-Ti coils to try.
     
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    :facepalm:
    1. wrap a nice even Ti 28g 5 or 6 wrap coil around a 2.5mm core (.3 -.5 ohms)
    2. attach the atty to the VTC Mini
    3. lock the resistance at room temp (not after firing the atty)
    4. set to 30 watts (way plenty to get up to temp immediately) and 420/430 F
    5. love your vape

    Really simple. There are no bugs. Just buggy users. This is a really nice mod with very good regulation.




    Ooooppss... sorry... That's what works for me. YMMV. :cool:
     

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    :facepalm:
    1. wrap a nice even Ti 28g 5 or 6 wrap coil around a 2.5mm core (.3 -.5 ohms)
    2. attach the atty to the VTC Mini
    3. lock the resistance at room temp (not after firing the atty)
    4. set to 30 watts (way plenty to get up to temp immediately) and 420/430 F
    5. love your vape

    Really simple. There are no bugs. Just buggy users. This is a really nice mod with very good regulation.




    Ooooppss... sorry... That's what works for me. YMMV. :cool:
    This is what I'm thinking. I mean how come plenty of people are having this work just fine daily and others are just not getting a vape? I'm guessing they aren't following the instructions/aren't grasping the concept of how this works. But if there ARE legit qc issues I'd advise to stay away. I haven't really seen any on this specific device, even though joyetechs history is... well... spotty. To say the least.
     

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    I mean how come plenty of people are having this work just fine daily and others are just not getting a vape?
    1. Don't use spotty, crappy pre-built coil heads. Use an good, proven RTA/RDA and build it and wick it yourself. Keep the coils simple. Forget the super dragon clapton dual triple parallel sleeper coil garbage.
    2. RTFM. Learn to interpret Chinglish if necessary.
    3. Be a crotchety old geezer in the morning, like me.

    :cool:
     

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    1. Don't use spotty, crappy pre-built coil heads. Use an good, proven RTA/RDA and build it and wick it yourself. Keep the coils simple. Forget the super dragon clapton dual triple parallel sleeper coil garbage.
    2. RTFM. Learn to interpret Chinglish if necessary.
    3. Be a crotchety old geezer in the morning, like me.

    :cool:
    Well hold on this is what's getting at me. These guys say they put their builds/pre built coils on other TC mods and they work fine. But put it on any evic and all of a sudden no worky fine. Wonder why that is? Product bashers? Probably. Not following instructions? Maybe. Real issue with the device? Probably not, as there are only two people that I can find that can't get this one device to work like the rest. Either qc issue or no issue is my assumption.
     

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    :facepalm:
    1. wrap a nice even Ti 28g 5 or 6 wrap coil around a 2.5mm core (.3 -.5 ohms)
    2. attach the atty to the VTC Mini
    3. lock the resistance at room temp (not after firing the atty)
    4. set to 30 watts (way plenty to get up to temp immediately) and 420/430 F
    5. love your vape

    Really simple. There are no bugs. Just buggy users. This is a really nice mod with very good regulation.




    Ooooppss... sorry... That's what works for me. YMMV. :cool:


    Wow thanks for your useful insight, couldn't be the mod could it, it works for you, so must be the user :blink:

    I am not a new vapor and been wrapping coils for years and is the same for nickel and ti builds I've done and also premade nickel coils as none of my builds was working, and this is with different atties, strange all these different builds and atties,and have the same problem only on the evic vt's, works fine on my IPV D2, sigelei 75, even crappy vaporflask clone, yet I am the problem :thumbs:
     

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    Well hold on this is what's getting at me. These guys say they put their builds/pre built coils on other TC mods and they work fine. But put it on any evic and all of a sudden no worky fine. Wonder why that is? Product bashers? Probably. Not following instructions? Maybe. Real issue with the device? Probably not, as there are only two people that I can find that can't get this one device to work like the rest. Either qc issue or no issue is my assumption.

    I am in no means bashing the evic vt, I already had the full size which I never got to work properly in TC either, but still bought the mini, as I do think the mods are awesome, and not a big deal if vaping in TC or not, out of 4 mods going right now, only have a TC build on the IPV D2.

    If look back in this thread, would see I rated the evic-vt the highest out of the evic, IPV D2 and the sigelei 75.

    I don't know why it doesn't work properly for me, and will see how these CLR-Ti heads perform when they get here, but if they don't work either, then will just carry on enjoying the evic in power mode.
     

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    I am in no means bashing the evic vt, I already had the full size which I never got to work properly in TC either, but still bought the mini, as I do think the mods are awesome, and not a big deal if vaping in TC or not, out of 4 mods going right now, only have a TC build on the IPV D2.

    If look back in this thread, would see I rated the evic-vt the highest out of the evic, IPV D2 and the sigelei 75.

    I don't know why it doesn't work properly for me, and will see how these CLR-Ti heads perform when they get here, but if they don't work either, then will just carry on enjoying the evic in power mode.
    I feel that if the device doesn't work as stated it should be returned for a working product but maybe that's just me. Tc is working for many other users and that is what is leading us to wonder why it doesn't for very few. Problems need to be addressed, not ignored. The first evic had one know problem and that was slipping out of tc mode if the resistance was too low. If there are legit problems they should be addressed so that the manufactures can FIX them especially with update able firmware. That's the reason why it is there right? To fix problems like the one you're experiencing? But hey if you're the only one losing out and youre happy with that then by all means, keep your loss. And keep it to yourself while you're at it.
     

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    And keep it to yourself while you're at it.

    Uhm no, this thread is about the evic mini, and will share my experience, good or bad just like everyone else does in all the threads on the forum, that is the idea of this forum, if someone having problems, they post and it might get resolved by helpful members, I guess you've not learnt that yet, if it upsets you that I have a negative about the mod, then there is a ignore feature you can use ;)
     

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    I'm so disappointed, no matter what RTA, RDA I use on this device, it always shows "Protection", I've tried two RDAs and two RTAs on it, with 0.5 to 0.15 ohm (with or without resistance lock in room temperature), all of them don't work. But they work perfectly fine on my rDNA40.....anyone knows how to fix it..? I'm about to throw it away....thanks!

    ive ran a 0.18 coil and seems ok,but thats ti coils

    i did experience that and when i checked a small part of my middle wick is already burned,rebuilt and worked ok..

    try a new coil,and new wick,
    turn off,then turn on attach atty with new coil and lock resistance.

    I do not know of any reason why you cannot use micro coils. Contact coils are fine as well. And pulsing coils to very dull red is also not a problem as TiO2 does not form at the low temp of a dull glow as far as I can tell. Many do this for their builds. It is also the best way to clean gunk build up before rewicking.

    some people say here that those are not ok,
    been suing micro coils since i still cant make a spaced one :(
    so far seems ok,
    no white film as ive read are indications of ti02

    btw ,micro coils ,/contact coils are working fine in the mini.
     
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    I don't aim to bash the Evic VTC either but I have experienced what others have with the TC on the mini. So far the stock .2 cl has been the only one to read stable for me, the .1 coil I tried worked great when the Evic read it at .11 initially but after sleeping it drops to .09 and you can't get a decent vape on it even maxed out, it hits temp protection way early outputs 7-9w when there's no way the coil is at 600f. You fool with it to get it to read .11 and back to fine. I thought it was just that coil and tried a .15, read .15 and stayed that way for an hour or two working great, then it woke up at .13 and again hitting temp protection too early. At least I could max it at 600f on that one and get a half decent vape. Does this keep me from using it as my work/daily driver? Absolutely not because the ego mega works well enough that I can overlook the slightly janky TC and hope it gets fixed in firmware. FWIW there's a YouTube video showing the resistance drop after sleep.

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    @Kaiser Bob

    bor i think ,just a guess it has somthing to do with wicking as per my experience
    because on my dripper,

    if i dont semi flood it,just enough on the cotton nothing on the juice wells,2 hits @500f gives me temp protection already,

    on the one mega,stock cl coils,isnt the best wicking thing in he world,.hapens to me every 2-5 long puffs,dependeing on the juice.

    might wanna take a look in to the wicking thing and maybe it will solve your issue
     
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    I have experienced something similar 3 times.

    - once when my poor wicking wasn't keeping enough juice going to the coils

    -another time when I didn't get the resistance locked while both mod and atty were good and cool and room temp

    -another when I forgot to lock the resistance.

    I hope you get it figured out because I really have been enjoying mine.


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    I have yet to get a TC build on the mini that would last more than a day, sometimes more than a half hour. I thought it was me not knowing how to build or work with Ni200 coils. Apparently it's not me but something funny with this device. I have tried 28g and 30g twsted, the very first build I put into the Taifun GS II in dripper mode and it seemed to work well except the temp had to be jacked to 520F for a decently warm vape. I thought that was quite odd and reading all over people running 17W at 390F and praising a TC vape to the high heavens... Well 17W and 390F on the mini, you might just as well vape an eVod, it will give you better satisfaction.

    I thought it was wicking that was not dense enough in those soft coils. I have used Rayon, Japanese Cotton and Viskose (EU Rayon) all with the same effect. The vape starts off great for a few pulls and then hits the TP wall within a second or two. If you just lightly touch the button the mini shows the coil as still being close to 300F after 30 seconds or so. This just cant be the case, when I dry burn Kanthal for a cleaning it glows red hot and is cool to wick again in minute.

    I thought that I would put a Ni200 build in the FeV V3 last night as it is the easiest deck to get access to as its basically just a big two post dripper deck. I wrapped a 28g Ni200 coil on a 6-32 screw for 6 wraps which read 0.08 ohms on the mini, perfect! Locked the resistance in, wicked it with Viskose and prejuiced it with a 50/50 flavorless juice I use to prime coils. I set the mini at 17W and 430F, put the top back on and proceeded to get to wonder ful vapes from this build. Excellent! I filled the tank with a favorite juice and hit nothing but TP within seconds after that... If you know the FeV, the tank just slides down over top of the base and it uses feeder wicks to provide juice so there was no jostling of the base or coil etc...

    This build COULD in fact be a juice feed problem since the holes in my mesh straws are quite small. I can only bring the regular 26g 0.8 ohm build up to 25W on Kanthal without verging on a dry hit. So changing the feeder wicks on it might solve that problem, I'll have to play with it this weekend.

    I really have no other RTA's that will take a Ni200 build easily, the KFV4 has the spring foolishness, the KFL decks are too small and the Rose V2's would be impossible too wick without destroying the coil IMHO. We won't even think about a dual build in the Big German or the Silverplay. :shock:

    I have an Aqua V2 in single coil mode that I might try and see how that works.

    Drippers I have are the Origen V2, the Origenny V2, a Mutation X V3 and a CCI Militia with 6 drilled holes on each side. So the vertical builds in the Origens are not something I want to try. The Mut and Militia will cut 28g Kanthal so getting Ni200 in there could be a treat.

    In my cart on FT I have a Nectar Mini and a Stumpy, both seem like they would be a good deck for Ni200 also I have 28g and 26g Ti wire there as well. Hopefully the FT Chinese Ti wire is alright as I have no local sources.

    I don't think it's inexperience, I think it is something strange with the eVic VTC mini... I should take a build down to my local B&M to try on a Vaporshark rDNA40 as well as the IPV D2... I was going to get an iStick 40TC initially but was point towards the eVic as a much nicer unit. With the iStick firing at a locked 40W in TC mode and people saying that it is dead simple to use and provides a great working TC. There has to be a reason behind all the issues people are having with the eVic.

    Just my :2c: if anyone sees something I am doing wrong then please let me know.
     

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    Drippers I have are the Origen V2, the Origenny V2, a Mutation X V3 and a CCI Militia with 6 drilled holes on each side. So the vertical builds in the Origens are not something I want to try. The Mut and Militia will cut 28g Kanthal so getting Ni200 in there could be a treat.

    Don't dismiss the Origen. My Origen V3 dripper is the best TC RDA I've ever used. Super easy to build with nickel and the connections are rock solid. The only real challenge is wicking the vertical nickel coil without mangling it but with a little care and patience, it's certainly doable.

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    Don't dismiss the Origen. My Origen V3 dripper is the best TC RDA I've ever used. Super easy to build with nickel and the connections are rock solid. The only real challenge is wicking the vertical nickel coil without mangling it but with a little care and patience, it's certainly doable.

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    Thanks inswva!

    I will give it a try this weekend on the Origen. Would you recommend a single 28g coil or a single twisted 30g? I'd like to get a single coil setup working properly before adding dual coils into the mix. ;)
     
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