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Most of the pv companies are small or new also most are hand made or hand machined and engineering trial and error get expensive
Clearly you've found your calling. You can build a nice mod for $6, while people are willing to pay $100 and $200 and more. You can undercut the current suppliers and still make a huge profit!
There is a big market out there. Most of the major mod makers tend to have backlogs. Madvapes is often out of stock even on the lower end mods. And more smokers are learning about vaping so the market is growing.
If you can make a good mod for $6 and sell it for $50, you can make a killing. But you can't really do that. Your $6 doesn't include labor, it doesn't include workspace. And your $6 mod is a piece of cheap plastic that isn't likely to last long.
Who says it won't last long? I've been using my "cheap plastic" otterbox mod for almost a year now.
Plus, it's ruggedized and waterproof (minus the carto, but I carry spares inside the mod)
How many "high end" mods are suited for extreme conditions?
IMO, it's great for the outdoor enthusiast or construction worker.
Just because something is plastic doesn't mean it's cheap and of poor quality...
Hi im new Im EscaladeDude im always on VTV or elixir, i am about a 5 month vapor i have a GGTS Provari and Diamante. I found you really get what u pay for. and u cough up the money in the beging for the good mod its worth it!
I'm just having trouble believing that your $6 plastic mod is comparable to a buzz pro or darwin or reo. And if you can do it, I can't see why you wouldn't want to make a ton of money.
I know the button used in the Buzz Pro is rated for over a million presses. How many presses is the button you are using rated for? My guess is that you don't even know - you bought the cheapest button you can buy, and you figure "a button is a button".
I completely agree that if china were to mass produce a good mod, they could put out a very good product far, far cheaper than anything we've seen. But that won't happen unless they can count on selling millions of them every year. And when they do, it will drive a lot of the current mad makers out of business, since they are pretty much working by hand and building them one at a time.
The only problem I see with your logic is that we'll go pay $1.00 for a new button and be back in busness for another year. Your "million press button" may or may not last that long...but when it does bite the big one, best case scenario is you pay $5-$10 to send it back and have it repaired. Either way, buttons aren't much of an issue. But it's what you chose to submit for an argument as to why your high(er) dollar mod is preferrable to an inexpensive box mod. Sorry, but I'll still stick with the inexpensive box mod.
Agreed. Unfortunately you have people committing that do not have the GLV and simply want to act like they know what they are talking about.
I don't think you're understanding my argument at all. I don't have anything against inexpensive box mods. But when someone claims "Those mods are all overpriced because I can make my own mod for $6", he has to ignore a lot of things. That $6 mod isn't the same quality as the more expensive mods. He isn't counting his time.
And, as I've said before, if he can really make a quality mod for $6, then he can make a very large amount of money.
It's a lot easier to say "A mod shouldn't cost over $10 because I can build one for $6" than it is to actually do it.
I have a 5v GLV3.
Easy to fill.
Hits fantastically.
Heavy as heck!
I could knock out a horse with it.
Everyones tastes and budgets are different.If you can afford expensive fancy mods thats great.Some people need to know there are more affordable options available that will help keep them off cigs.Thats the main objective,not smoking,not who can buy the most expensive stuff.Its important to keep within your budget and stay smokefree.
Totally agree. It does, however, get VERY old being grilled all the time by the select few that think their gear is what everyone should have. Those of us that stay on the "shallower" end of the price line really get nailed quite often around here by the so called "purists" with all the "Your PV is junk and wimpy" comments.
Then there are those of us that choose to stay on the shallow end because we started this to 1) have a healthier alternative to analogs and 2) spend less money.
Personally, I'd rather spend my money on family outings, guns, bows, ya know...MAN toys rather than allowing myself to be consumed by whether or not I have the highest powered, cutting edge, whizbang of a PV that, when it's all said and done, does nothing but put nicotine laden vapor in my lungs. But that's my personal choice. Others likely see me spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on my toys as senseless. To each his/her own...but why be critical of others because they choose not to own the high dollar equipment? To me that critical attitude is just...well...STUPIDITY in action!!
In one breath you're claiming it's a matter of personal choice, & in the next breath criticizing someone else's personal choice.
No...read it again...unless their "personal choice" is to attack or "run down" the folks that do not own high end mods. In which case, I am guilty as charged. Nowhere did I say or imply that those who choose to purchase such high end mods were wrong at all. Only those who claim that everyone should and choose to belittle them for lacking them.
Are you talking about me? This isn't at all what I've been saying. I'm vaping an eGo. My next mod will be a Buzz Pro (or possibly an Infinity Pro). After that, I expect to get a $35 Madvapes VV mod to use as a backup.
I'm willing to spend the money on the Buzz Pro to have something that is well made and looks nice. I can easily justify the cost because I was spending hundreds every money smoking. Buying one nice mod every *month* would be cheaper. It's not unreasonable, IMO, to get one good mod.
I don't expect the Buzz Pro to give a significantly different vape than the madvapes VV box will give. It'll give better run time on the batteries, it'll look nicer, and I would expect it to last much longer than a basic box that got the same amount of use, but the vape will be pretty much the same - set the voltage where you want it, and vape away.
Much like you can get a cheap car or an expensive car. Both drive you from point A to point B. Whether having a nicer looking car with more lights and bells is worth it will vary. Some people want the features, some don't.
The problem I have is that claiming that all mods are overpriced because "I can build one for $6". If that's true, then build several thousand of them and make a bunch of money, and I'm all on your side. I don't think it's true, though. You can't build an equivalent mod for $6.
I don't think there is anything wrong with plastic box mods if that's what works for you. I've tried out a homemade VV box mod, and it gave a great vape. Like I said, I expect to get a low end VV box from madvapes.
Over time, I expect the prices to drop. More smokers learn about vaping, which leads to higher demand, and it snowballs, because those new vapers will convert more smokers. Right now, most mods are either one person shops or very small shops. As vaping grows in popularity (which I expect, since it seems to work so well for so many) then it's just a matter of time before some company puts together a good mass produced mod that will be well made, handle VV, look good, and come at a much lower price than we have now.
When that happens, some of the current mod makers will probably get taken out of business. A one man shop can't compete with that very well. Others will probably keep going, even with that kind of competition. China isn't likely to mass produce anything that looks as nice as a Reo Woody, or the wood veneered Buzz Pro's, for instance.
No. Not you. I do see what you're saying, and have no further argument. I am talking about people on this forum who blatantly criticize other people for their choice in PVs.
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