Explain mods to me...

[JohnWillyson]

So I understand the bottom feeder mods... so you dont have to constantly fill or drip.

I also understand some people like variable voltage to play with...

If I dont like either of those, whats the benefit of a mod? For example, a silver bullet. Are they just for a bigger battery for less charging? Or do they have some tangible benefits?

 

[cactusgirl]

I think one of the other benefits to a mod is that the batteries for mods are replaceable and relatively inexpensive compared to units that include a (proprietary) combined battery-in-one style ecig.

 

[madjack]

...heavier duty, less prone to any breakdowns, significantly cheaper batts...prettier...and in the case of mods such as the E-Power/RoughStack/etc, modular which, allows you to replace switches and such for cheap(er) maintenance and some are totally mechanical, thus, eliminating electrical problems from printed circuit boards...a 3.7v batt whether, it is in a mod or a proprietary is just a 3.7v batt...but never discount the "niceness" of longer lived and longer lasting batts...
madjack
p.s. they also handle the hi amp draw from using low resistance accessories better than their proprietary brethren........mj

 

[nqabassist26]

A regular "mod" with no fancy bottom feeding or VV circuitry still have benefits over proprietary PVs like the eGo/kGo/Riva/etc as most have covered already up here.

-Some mods have juice wells that catch any juice leaking from an atty (my Joye 510s do A LOT), so that is a benefit.
-The batteries are cheaper and you can keep spares with you at all times if you would like.
-The build quality is *typically* better than the mass produced fat batts.
-They come in many shapes, sizes, colors and you can find one with any type of connection you'd like.
-They support LR atties/cartos better because most of them can withstand a higher amp draw better.
-There are all mechanical ones that have no chance of an electrical failure.
-Some support different battery arrangements that can give you 3.7v/5v/6v/7.2v ETC, and that's a benefit if you would like to try different voltages without having a "VV" mod.

They're just better all around, for the most part. That being said, however, I still use my kGo plenty because it's so purdy with a pink Ming drip tip from Cherry Vape

 

[mynameisrob]

Def one of the big benefits is that they use non-proprietary batteries. Also many of the tube mods are made well and will last/be able to take a beating. I also like that they are generally alot more versatile. There really are all kinds of mods though and they can come in all different shapes and sizes, variable voltage mods, all mechanical mods, feeder mods, etc etc. there are quite a few high end mods, but there are also some very affordable tube mods too. I use an Epower which is considered a lower end tube mod, but is still a decent PV. It's similar to a riva and kGo because they are all 3.7V PVs and have 510 connections, but the Epower uses non-proprietary batteries instead and that was one of the things I liked the most. Epower batteries cost only $4 compared to riva and kGo batteries which are proprietary and cost around $14-20, and the non-proprietary batteries last a lot longer before they need to be replaced. That's just one example though. There are many other benefits of using a mod type PV. I just used that example bc it shows that you dont have to be looking for a feeder system or VV etc to benefit from using a mod type PV

 

[studio52]

An Ego is a mod...and they are wonderful. But there are pretty nice Mods available..yes the Silver Bullet is an industry standard, It operates on an 18650 battery, or 2 smaller batteries for vaping at 6 Volts, but in general its a tube mod used with an 18650 at 3.7 Volts. Battery life varies according to your vaping habits, you can get anywhere from 1.5 to 3 days from one charge. As a Mod junkie, I have over 50 mods, 5 silver bullets, I like the different colors, but each mod has its own special feature, yes the features are tangible..like the Darwin, and Provari....but for a first mod...you cant beat a Silver Bullet.

 

[sumoman25]

Now that everyone else has explained everything to you, I'll give you a few recommendations on a first mod.

Any box mod, good cheap choice.
Roughstack v2, mini or maxi, both are great. Top button is strange, though.
CCV has the bolt, very nice pricing and comes with a battery.
E-power, tube mod ego styled

Tube mods are better, imo. Although I'm currently looking into wetboxes. Tube mods are my go to though.

 

[Retriever]

The Bombshell is a good tube mod too with a great button placement.

 

[wv2win]

You got some good explanations as to the advantages to mod type PV models, especially the part about better batteries that cost much less and also last much longer lifetime wise and overall build quality.

Two of the bigger advantages with at least some of the better built models is warmer vapor and consistency, which, thus, better simulates the real thing. A good 5 volt model will give you warmer vapor. Many consider 4.5 - 5.0 volts the ideal vaping power level. Models that have regulated, boost circuit technology provide the ultimate in consistency. A freshly charged battery will always provide the best vaping performance. But as the battery drains, the performance begins to suffer. Ususally within the first half hour. Models that have boost circuit technology, maintain the fresh battery vaping experience throughout the battery charge from first use until the battery dies. I don't know anyone who would not prefer consistency and many of us want warmer vapor.

 

[JohnWillyson]

Oh wow. Ton of info!

Thanks! I think I am mostly interested in a tube mod, which is why I said the silver bullet, its what Dr Vapor used so it piqued my interest.

 

[hairball]

Oh wow. Ton of info!

Thanks! I think I am mostly interested in a tube mod, which is why I said the silver bullet, its what Dr Vapor used so it piqued my interest.

+1 in my book. The SB is a well built solid mod.

 

[JohnWillyson]

Any opinions on a Provape-1? Lifetime warranty, slew of safety features... Is it regulated?

 

[dee5]

Hope you are still checking this thread, here is a good resource for you:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...8-wonderful-world-mods-illustrated-guide.html

 

[tj99959]

Think about versitility.
Try putting a 5v booster on your eGo

or a kick (if they ever get them made) in it

 

[hairball]

Any opinions on a Provape-1? Lifetime warranty, slew of safety features... Is it regulated?

I had one and from what I can remember, it's regulated at 3.7V and it's not all mechanical. I would rather have an all mechanical mod with an AW battery in it. The AW (red jackets) hold their voltage for a longer period of time before dropping off and it's a drop off that you'll notice immediately.

Don't get me wrong, the Provape-1 is a nice mod, but there's always the worry about electronic boards going kerput. The warranty is great but still, you're out the PV until it gets repaired.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I own both a Megalodon and a Provari. The all mechanical Don I can drop, knock over and know it's not going to get damaged. The SB is much the same.The Provari on the other hand, which I also own, is pretty and versatile but I know the electronics on it could be damaged if I were to drop it. There are just so many Mods out there but I believe this post by wv2win sums it up best:
"Models that have regulated, boost circuit technology provide the ultimate in consistency. A freshly charged battery will always provide the best vaping performance. But as the battery drains, the performance begins to suffer. Ususally within the first half hour. Models that have boost circuit technology, maintain the fresh battery vaping experience throughout the battery charge from first use until the battery dies. I don't know anyone who would not prefer consistency and many of us want warmer vapor."
I say this because most Mods will give a superior vape but not all will give a consistent superior vape because of batt limitations. Some Mods can overcome or compensate for these limitations. Most battery performance at 50% drain drops off a cliff. I have seen the charts illustrating this shortfall.
Good Luck, Vapoor.

 

[DaveP]

If you want to check out variable vaping on the cheap, try a Madvapes vv box mod. 0-7.4v on two 14500 batts. It's $35 and you will need two 14500 batts and a charger. Still, at $50 for the whole thing, you get the experience for 1/3 the price of a Provari and backup in case the expensive mod has to go back for service.

 

[alanselo]

If you want to check out variable vaping on the cheap, try a Madvapes vv box mod. 0-7.4v on two 14500 batts. It's $35 and you will need two 14500 batts and a charger. Still, at $50 for the whole thing, you get the experience for 1/3 the price of a Provari and backup in case the expensive mod has to go back for service.

I'm with Dave on this one. Additionally I would add a dual coil tank also from madvapes and still pretty cheap. I personally like to have a switch/dial in lieu of changing out batteries and having to have different batteries etc. Just move the dial and you are there, a couple of extra batteries and you are set.

Personally I like function over form. To each his own, whatever works for you. Good luck with the wealth of opinions and information. As long as you get off cigs you are a winner.

 

[mostlyclassics]

If you want to check out variable vaping on the cheap, try a Madvapes vv box mod. 0-7.4v on two 14500 batts. It's $35 and you will need two 14500 batts and a charger. Still, at $50 for the whole thing, you get the experience for 1/3 the price of a Provari and backup in case the expensive mod has to go back for service.

Me three. Thanks to that MadVapes VV box mod, I discovered that my "sweet spot" was really about 3.8 volts through a 3.0 ohm Boge. So a fancy VV mod just isn't for me -- back to less expensive alternatives. Beats spending hundreds on a "Mercedes" mod to discover this.

 

[shagin8703]

So I understand the bottom feeder mods... so you dont have to constantly fill or drip.

I also understand some people like variable voltage to play with...

If I dont like either of those, whats the benefit of a mod? For example, a silver bullet. Are they just for a bigger battery for less charging? Or do they have some tangible benefits?

My wife has a Silver Bullet, among other mods, after having started on "Lucky Slicks" and Egos about 8 months ago. Yes, the bigger battery is a "draw" (no pun intended), but the durability is another major factor. The Silver Bullet was her first mod, purchased 1 month after getting into vaping. It is solid, reliable, all-mechanical. The big battery (18650) means you can vape at 3.7 volts for 2-3 days between charges, but you can also stack two CR123A batteries to bring it up to 6 volts, for high-voltage vaping. Several other mods can do this trick, but some of them are hard to acquire, because they're constantly out of stock. She got her Silver Bullet from Altsmoke, and their customer service is excellent.