explain MSRP

[Oomee]

I wonder if some in this thread understand what the OP is talking about .

It's the Rainbow Heaven/VapourFreak arrangement .
Some how these companies are tied together (I think it is VF) , they produce a high quality clone of very desirable attys .
This is then sold through three outlets around the globe and the price is fixed .
If an outlet is found to be selling cheaper then they will no longer get stock from RH .

This is not like the TOBECO crap , it is of a much better engineering standard .

 

[peterforpats]

It is just a suggested price. I can suggest that a Big Mac sell for $15.00 all day long. It simply opens the door for high volume retailers to offer the product at a lower price if they can lower their cost for doing business. If I see a MSRP on a product, the ears go up and I begin to look harder for deals. Profit is profit, higher starting price, few sales, lower starting price, higher volume. JMHO.

it is not a suggested price when the vendor is forced to sell it at that price or not be able to order anymore. if mcdonalds forced franchises to sell $15 dollar hamburgers everyone would go to wendys or burger king. yes, high volume sellers would undercut small sellers , but guess what? it happens everyday now. walmart may be cheaper but the local small business gives great customer service, a friendly attitude, and knows their customers I choose to pay a little more for that service and care- some will, some won't. that is the reality of business now not some theory or model. why do so many of you want to force pricing on everybody? NO manufacturer should be able to do that. I am for true freedom in the marketplace not pretend price structures. guess most of you aren't.......

 

[VV_James]

it is not a suggested price when the vendor is forced to sell it at that price or not be able to order anymore. if mcdonalds forced franchises to sell $15 dollar hamburgers everyone would go to wendys or burger king. yes, high volume sellers would undercut small sellers , but guess what? it happens everyday now. walmart may be cheaper but the local small business gives great customer service, a friendly attitude, and knows their customers I choose to pay a little more for that service and care- some will, some won't. that is the reality of business now not some theory or model. why do so many of you want to force pricing on everybody? NO manufacturer should be able to do that. I am for true freedom in the marketplace not pretend price structures. guess most of you aren't.......

I agree to a point, but there are those of us who give GREAT Customer Service, but would rather make $10 profit and gain 10 new customers than make $100 profit and gain 1

Just say'n

 

[VV_James]

Though I AM with you in that no manufacturer should be allowed to force pricing on any vendor. They set the price they want to sell at and the vendors buy or don't.

Once bought though, It's mine and I'll sell it for whatever I damn well please, and if ALL or even most vendors would adopt that policy we can put a stop to this crap!

 

[Penn]

I wonder if some in this thread understand what the OP is talking about .

It's the Rainbow Heaven/VapourFreak arrangement .
Some how these companies are tied together (I think it is VF) , they produce a high quality clone of very desirable attys .
This is then sold through three outlets around the globe and the price is fixed .
If an outlet is found to be selling cheaper then they will no longer get stock from RH .

This is not like the TOBECO crap , it is of a much better engineering standard .

Not seeing how the details in this situation are relevant. If a manufacturer wants their product to be perceived in a certain fashion they can pursue that. If that means limiting which retailers carry the product, so be it. If a retailer somehow acquires the genuine product outside of a direct agreement from the manufacturer and chooses to go against MSRP or MAP, so be it. As I said in a previous post, both practices are legal.

If the issue is actually with clones, the OP should have approached that topic. There are threads on that topic which always lead to tail chasing.

 

[peterforpats]

Not seeing how the details in this situation are relevant. If a manufacturer wants their product to be perceived in a certain fashion they can pursue that. If that means limiting which retailers carry the product, so be it. If a retailer somehow acquires the genuine product outside of a direct agreement from the manufacturer and chooses to go against MSRP or MAP, so be it. As I said in a previous post, both practices are legal.

If the issue is actually with clones, the OP should have approached that topic. There are threads on that topic which always lead to tail chasing.

say hi to teller!!

 

[Oomee]

Not seeing how the details in this situation are relevant. If a manufacturer wants their product to be perceived in a certain fashion they can pursue that. If that means limiting which retailers carry the product, so be it. If a retailer somehow acquires the genuine product outside of a direct agreement from the manufacturer and chooses to go against MSRP or MAP, so be it. As I said in a previous post, both practices are legal.

If the issue is actually with clones, the OP should have approached that topic. There are threads on that topic which always lead to tail chasing.

The OP wants a Russian 91% and doesn't want to pay what the vendors and manufacturers are asking .
Be careful of commenting though , he may besmirch your spelling without realising that 'merican is not English

 

[Punkonjunk]

I know what you mean. I have stopped dealing with vendors that do that(I am in the yarn business) I only ran across two of them so far.
If two competitors do it it is called price fixing..but if a manufacturer does it it is o.k.? It doesn't make sense.

It's still price fixing. From a lot of manufactuers, they will try and blackball the retailer for undercutting their target prices.
Vapor joe talked about it at one point:
http://.........blogspot.com/2013/06/the-dirty-little-not-so-secret.html

Innokin's battle plan was to just straight lie through their teeth and say they must be clones, regardless of fully authentic packaging. (because if you're going to rip something off in a lawless copyright-free place, you definitely want to spend a ton of extra money on making sure the package is 100% indistinguishable, no one in this industry wants to buy cheap clones, no sir.... er.... wait....)
The issue arises because good 'ol fasttech is forced to purchase through shill companies otherwise innokin will tell 'em to blow it.

It's price fixing, pure and simple.

 

[HauntedMyst]

America as a nation engages it constantly on a global scale and has done for decades .

See the irony in your OP ?

Hmmm. The British Empire does not? Now that is ironic.


Those silly comments aside, while American law doesn't allow price fixing, other countries do. MRSP is the suggested price. It's a way of letting the consumer know where the price point was developed for that product so that they can do a more comparable evaluation of price/features, etc.

 

[peterforpats]

The OP wants a Russian 91% and doesn't want to pay what the vendors and manufacturers are asking .
Be careful of commenting though , he may besmirch your spelling without realising that 'merican is not English

once again you are wrong- it is not that I want something and don't want to pay whatever the price is- it is I want the vendors to have the ability to set their own prices. got it, mate?

 

[Oomee]

the product I was looking for was a Russian 91%- all the vendors are now engaged in price fixing because the manufacturer demands it. it should be illegal....

Just a reminder .
Mate .

 

[Oomee]

Hmmm. The British Empire does not? Now that is ironic.
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Good one

 

[dr g]

Resale price maintenance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[VV_James]

The solution to the whole price fixing issue is still a simple one.

Don't sell on consignment.

Purchase the Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ) from the manufacturer at the price they set. (no choice there)

Sell it for whatever you want to price it at.

IF the manufacturer finds out, AND IF they decide to grow a pair, and stop selling to you, then pull a fasttech.

Set up a front company, (hell new e-cig companies pop up by the dozens every day).

Purchase the MOQ from the manufacturer.

Transfer the inventory to your retail company at cost and sell it for whatever price you want.

The Manufacturer will start trying REAL HARD to find out where you're getting the product, but you are under no obligation to tell them.

It works!

It's SIMPLE, and EASY!

And if enough vendors follow this model this price fixing crap will come to a complete freaking halt!