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Sir2fyablyNutz

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I read a while back about a man who had an 18650 in his pocket and it made a circuit with his keys and change. It's why you should ALWAYS carry spare batteries in a silicone sleeve or plastic battery case.

If you're putting your mod in a purse or pocket you should "TURN IT OFF" first. Think about a cell phone and but* dialing... a mod will fire when it's button gets pressed no matter where it is.
 

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Yes, it's happened to several people.

If you're carrying spare batteries, ALWAYS keep them in a protective case. If car keys, loose change, or any other metal object touches the top and side of the battery at the same time it can cause a short which can cause the battery to vent or even catch fire and explode.

Most people don't realize that the entire outer casing of the battery is the negative ground, not just the bottom. That's why batteries are wrapped in non-conductive plastic, it's to prevent unwanted grounding. If you take the wrapper off or if that wrapper is torn...

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That outer metal ring is negative, the inner cap is positive. Anything conductive that touches both at the same time will create a short.

ALWAYS carry spare batteries in a protective case. They are cheap and can prevent a horrible accident.

Use this....
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Don't let this happen to you....
 

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Yes, it's happened to several people.

If you're carrying spare batteries, ALWAYS keep them in a protective case. If car keys, loose change, or any other metal object touches the top and side of the battery at the same time it can cause a short which can cause the battery to vent or even catch fire and explode.

Most people don't realize that the entire outer casing of the battery is the negative ground, not just the bottom. That's why batteries are wrapped in non-conductive plastic, it's to prevent unwanted grounding. If you take the wrapper off or if that wrapper is torn...

25r5_topcap_1024x1024.jpg


That outer metal ring is negative, the inner cap is positive. Anything conductive that touches both at the same time will create a short.

ALWAYS carry spare batteries in a protective case. They are cheap and can prevent a horrible accident.

Use this....
sku_18074_4.jpg


Don't let this happen to you....


So ... if it is in use what would make it explode? Or are you saying a battery with changed chemistry or that has been shorted will explode once you put it in your mod?
 

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Yes, it's happened to several people.

If you're carrying spare batteries, ALWAYS keep them in a protective case. If car keys, loose change, or any other metal object touches the top and side of the battery at the same time it can cause a short which can cause the battery to vent or even catch fire and explode.

Most people don't realize that the entire outer casing of the battery is the negative ground, not just the bottom. That's why batteries are wrapped in non-conductive plastic, it's to prevent unwanted grounding. If you take the wrapper off or if that wrapper is torn...

25r5_topcap_1024x1024.jpg


That outer metal ring is negative, the inner cap is positive. Anything conductive that touches both at the same time will create a short.

ALWAYS carry spare batteries in a protective case. They are cheap and can prevent a horrible accident.

Use this....
sku_18074_4.jpg


Don't let this happen to you....

so... watching the video I can't help but (once again) be amazed by someone simply not bothering to do basic homework on battery safety... if it's not IN a device or IN a charger it needs to be IN a case - that simple... the fella's comments about 'there needs to be a safety device' were ironic - there IS a safety device (case...) as well as tons of info... ugh - this kind of negative visibility is one of those things that the anti-vapers just gobble up, when in fact it is simple operator error, akin to the Darwin Awards type things (lady sets cruise control on her brand new Winnebago RV and goes in the back to make a sandwich... is ASTONISHED when it crashes into a ditch... sues Winnebago for not clearly differentiating between cruise control and auto pilot (since there are so many OTHER self driving vehicles on the road nowadays)... please God, don't let her start vaping)
 
Usually the short is pushing WAYYY too many amps through the battery. theyre designed to heat up thin-ish wire...and a block of metal (even a small one like a coin or two) has little to no resistance as far as the battery is concerned. basically if know your ohms law's and use common sense it can be avoided for the most part. ive heard of alot of vape shops selling hybrid mods with non hybrid tanks to people for a setup which is (a bomb in the making and) against most manufacturer warnings as far as I know. basically theres no space to speak of between the 510 pin (touches the positive batt on a hybrid) and the "threads" of the attys (which ultimatley touches the bottom post of the battery through the tube) and basically creates a short as far as i can tell. I hope im making sense for the most part... just thought hybrids needed a mention when it comes to exploding batterys in mods
 
so... watching the video I can't help but (once again) be amazed by someone simply not bothering to do basic homework on battery safety... if it's not IN a device or IN a charger it needs to be IN a case - that simple... the fella's comments about 'there needs to be a safety device' were ironic - there IS a safety device (case...) as well as tons of info... ugh - this kind of negative visibility is one of those things that the anti-vapers just gobble up, when in fact it is simple operator error, akin to the Darwin Awards type things
I thought the same thing when he said "they need to have these in all vape shops" It took everything inside me not to yell at the screen "THEY DO...ASK IF NOONE OFFERS" he's lucky someone gave him that case in the first place. USE EM IF YOU GOT EM... IF YA DONT GOT EM... GET EM! IT NOT WORTH A HOLE IN YOUR LEG! FOR COMMON SENSE SAKE IF YOU NEED TO USE A CONDOM!! Looking back a couple years ago im lucky I never had a mishap just throwing a battery in my vape case
 
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There are other threads, but I thought to pass this on in the New Members forum.

I bought batteries from a well-known and recommended vendor. I got the recommendation here. It wasn't Orbtronics but another. I bought two so that I would have a spare and I write on them what mod they belong. Kinda gives me an idea of the age of the battery since it matches the age of the mod. The two batteries came in a plastic travel case.

I think Baditude has those same recommendations in a blog article and I think Susan-S passes them to new members. I just went and chased down his blog, really good read that I have done a few times. I am grateful.

(9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum

Good info, good direction
 

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So ... if it is in use what would make it explode? Or are you saying a battery with changed chemistry or that has been shorted will explode once you put it in your mod?
The story that's in the news at the moment was an, erm, gentleman putting change in his pocket which also contained an (unprotected) 18650 battery. Contents of pocket co-mingled and caused a dead-short of the battery with (expected) spectacular results. This is being covered (and ranted on) in several other threads here.

A battery in a regulated mod is perfectly safe if you follow some basic precautions about maintaining the battery and not attempting to draw more amperage from it than it can safely provide. On very rare occasions, a faulty mod will create the conditions for dead-shorting batteries. But 99.8% of the time, it's an uninformed ignorant user who is the root cause of such spectacular incidents.
 

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My co-worker (debbie downer for sure) just shared with me a new story from last night about a mans vape exploding in his pocket. Something about the batteries ... anyone have any info on this?

Sounds like the device auto fired in his pocket.

Always turn the device off when putting it in pocket or purse.

There are two battery experts. @Mooch @Baditude . check out their blogs.

Batteries usually explode from two causes.

Abuse.

Trying to use ultra low resistance coils pulling too many amps.

Study Ohms law a bit. And remember most 18650 batteries are 20 amp batteries. There are one or two 30 amp batteries.

NEVER use flashlight batteries in a mod.
 

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The story that's in the news at the moment was an, erm, gentleman putting change in his pocket which also contained an (unprotected) 18650 battery. Contents of pocket co-mingled and caused a dead-short of the battery with (expected) spectacular results. This is being covered (and ranted on) in several other threads here.

A battery in a regulated mod is perfectly safe if you follow some basic precautions about maintaining the battery and not attempting to draw more amperage from it than it can safely provide. On very rare occasions, a faulty mod will create the conditions for dead-shorting batteries. But 99.8% of the time, it's an uninformed ignorant user who is the root cause of such spectacular incidents.
AMEN!
 

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The story that's in the news at the moment was an, erm, gentleman putting change in his pocket which also contained an (unprotected) 18650 battery. Contents of pocket co-mingled and caused a dead-short of the battery with (expected) spectacular results. This is being covered (and ranted on) in several other threads here.

A battery in a regulated mod is perfectly safe if you follow some basic precautions about maintaining the battery and not attempting to draw more amperage from it than it can safely provide. On very rare occasions, a faulty mod will create the conditions for dead-shorting batteries. But 99.8% of the time, it's an uninformed ignorant user who is the root cause of such spectacular incidents.

Thank you! I am really trying here but I am just a baby and there is SOOOOOOOOO much information. :)
 

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I wonder if he had been carrying a spare 18650 for his flashlight and it caught fire would it have been a story?
People don't realize cell phones and laptops have had similar problems, you just don't hear about those as much.
A friend of mine I was helping upgrade from his pen style to a box mod picked up a single 18650 mod. He got a charger and spare battery, said the vape shop he went to didn't have cases, don't know if they meant they were out or they didn't carry them.
I order from liion wholesale free case with every order. BTW I gave my friend an extra case I had.
 

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Just saw one on the news last night! Guy had, from what the flames looked like shooting out, a tube mech in his pocket & for whatever reason the battery vented! all caught on survelance camera! No specific details just the video & him being quoted about the 2nd deg burns on his leg & the normal ANTZ bull!
 
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