Explosion at Vape Blast

[gandalas]

maybe you're just trolling, but...

you should read the reddit and instagram personal accounts of the incident. an eye witness posted on instagram: "The explosion (and I say explosion because that's what is was) caused a fire, blew holes in the 30ft tall ceiling, and created a hole in the concrete."

If you dont think this would cause bodily harm, then well, you're delusional.

Um, how is dude not in the hospital? If it was indeed in his pocket and went off like that, then he would be missing a leg.

 

[Ryedan]

Duuude, you so need a lanyard!



Kidding.

Hey, I didn't think I did too bad considering the K100 was my main vape for about 8 months and I only dropped it twice, LOL. Fixed now anyway. I got a Reo Grand and being a box it's much easier to pocket and less likely to go splat.

 

[Ryedan]

Um, how is dude not in the hospital? If it was indeed in his pocket and went off like that, then he would be missing a leg.

Apparently he took it out of his pocket when it got hot, tried to get the battery out and when he couldn't, dropped it and ran. The mod exploded after hitting the floor

 

[Funk Dracula]

Um, how is dude not in the hospital? If it was indeed in his pocket and went off like that, then he would be missing a leg.

By all accounts so for on the interwebs, the dude dropped it and ran like a coward.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Hey, I didn't think I did too bad considering the K100 was my main vape for about 8 months and I only dropped it twice, LOL. Fixed now anyway. I got a Reo Grand and being a box it's much easier to pocket and less likely to go splat.

I only dropped mine once badly. made a one point landing on my favorite drip and shattered it. I know, get a lanyard. There is a reason women don't use them though.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

By all accounts so for on the interwebs, the dude dropped it and ran like a coward.

Somebody knows who he is. Hopefully he'll be tracked down and come clean on what happened. I'm very surprised the police aren't looking for him. That I know of.

 

[SnakeFarm]

False flag from anti vape terrorists? I think this should be a serious consideration unless a credible person comes forward.

 

[Berylanna]

I only dropped mine once badly. made a one point landing on my favorite drip and shattered it. I know, get a lanyard. There is a reason women don't use them though.

I'm an oddball, I've always worn my work badge and cell phone on my belt anyway (my Dad was against lanyards near machines) so I just add a poly-something belt carrier for sunglasses. Until a couple of vendors started selling actually-USEFUL belt clips. Maybe you could put one on your purse strap or something.

 

[Berylanna]

By all accounts so for on the interwebs, the dude dropped it and ran like a coward.

People with mech mods don't use the explosive-type battery, they use IMRs. It vented, with holes too tiny to relieve pressure fast-enough, hence the rocket effect. And ceiling tiles are SOFT! I know, I used to have to reach above them to hook up "vampire taps" on the original network thick cables.

 

[rondasherrill]

Smart People with mech mods don't use the explosive-type battery, they use IMRs. It vented, with holes too tiny to relieve pressure fast-enough, hence the rocket effect. And ceiling tiles are SOFT! I know, I used to have to reach above them to hook up "vampire taps" on the original network thick cables.

Fixed that for you.

There are mech users who honestly don't know this stuff. Several people spent multiple pages just yesterday explaining to someone why not to use 18350 ICR's, and why he shouldn't stack them. And threads like that are not uncommon.

 

[Stubby]

Just in the New Members forum there will be ppl saying a shop sold them a mech with a sub ohm coil and they have no idea what to do next. They saw a video about sub ohming, went to the counter and asked for it like they had just seen an ad for toliet paper. Clueless. Every video can stress safety, blah, blah, blah and it's not going to sink. To some extent it's because were used to being lied to and warnings are overly cautious; just look at the side effects from most prescriptions that are worse than the disease being treated. But on the other hand, there is a responsibily of the vendor not to sell something beyond a customer's capacity when possible (and it's not always).

From what I understand this person made an oops in that he drilled the mod without cleaning all the metal shavings out before putting his battery in. That's right up there with throwing a battery into a pocket with keys.

Every sport / hobby has it's extremists and we all benefit because they are the ones usually in front with the most aggressive, efficient designs that eventually are filtered down to the masses. A lot of car safety and performance advances are learned from NASCAR, as an example. But it doesn't mean that everyone should be a race car driver or sub ohm. The entire community is at fault for pushing mech's and rebuildables as "the only way to go". No it's not. In fact a good share of mainstream vapers should probably never touch the stuff since they don't have the time, focus / interest to deal with it safely.

All the cloud contests at events like this I'm aware of have had strict rules around safety. I'd be surprised this was any different.

I wanted to bump this because it is the most intelligent statement on the thread. There are certainly people here that are pushing ultra high watt, sub-ohm, mech, etc, as some sort of holy grail of vaping. Hopefully this will have a positive outcome and give people pause to think about what is really going on. You don't need a 50 watt devices, or 100watt, or even 30, or unregulated mech's to have a satisfying experience. The risk goes up by the magnitude the harder you push it (and that includes health risk as the high heat will do nasty things to PG and VG, and likely flavorings).

The other thing not mentioned are liability issues. If someone would have been seriously injured (or worse), there is little question a lawsuit would follow. A first year law student would have no problem winning this one. Any competent electrical engineer would confirm that this is dangerous and the sponsors where negligent in allowing it to happen. This is a lawsuit that could easily run into the millions.

All this for a foolish adolescent kick.

The thing is most of our ohm readers have a +/- 0.15 margin of error on a good day. That means your 0.25 ohm coil could be 0.10 ohm and a 0.15 reading could be a dead short.

Is your battery really a 30 A battery or a 20 A copy?

Is your mod one that has arcing issues (would you even know until you super sub-ohm it?)?

These things accumulate, call them stacking errors that just get worse with each error.

The super sub-ohm thing is dangerous, period.

Maurice

 

[K_Tech]

By all accounts so for on the interwebs, the dude dropped it and ran like a coward.

Meh, I don't know the kid or what he's like, but there are three basic responses to a crisis situation. Fight, flight, or freeze.

Without some type of conditioning, it's easy for the frontal lobe to go on vacation when presented with an entirely unknown situation.

 

[wonkeypickle]

Meh, I don't know the kid or what he's like, but there are three basic responses to a crisis situation. Fight, flight, or freeze.

Without some type of conditioning, it's easy for the frontal lobe to go on vacation when presented with an entirely unknown situation.

hardly an excuse, someone could've had their eye put out via a rocket propelled projectile because this kid was trying his hardest to be cool.

 

[Funk Dracula]

Meh, I don't know the kid or what he's like, but there are three basic responses to a crisis situation. Fight, flight, or freeze.

Without some type of conditioning, it's easy for the frontal lobe to go on vacation when presented with an entirely unknown situation.

I totally get running away from immediate physical danger in a panic. Got it. But dude straight up left the building like a fart in the wind. A "Hit and Run" so to speak.

 

[ENAUD]

Meh, I don't know the kid or what he's like, but there are three basic responses to a crisis situation. Fight, flight, or freeze.

Without some type of conditioning, it's easy for the frontal lobe to go on vacation when presented with an entirely unknown situation.

I have been thinking this very thought for a while now. He really didn't seem to have very many options, and time was obviously not conducive to higher reasoning functions. He simply reacted to a very bad situation in one of the three ways that we humans do react in unplanned, high stress situations. I imagine that fellow is pretty consumed with shame now, and I doubt after all the name calling etc., that we will ever hear from that individual...

 

[zoiDman]

Meh, I don't know the kid or what he's like, but there are three basic responses to a crisis situation. Fight, flight, or freeze.

Without some type of conditioning, it's easy for the frontal lobe to go on vacation when presented with an entirely unknown situation.

hardly an excuse, someone could've had their eye put out via a rocket propelled projectile because this kid was trying his hardest to be cool.

I totally get running away from immediate physical danger in a panic. Got it. But dude straight up left the building like a fart in the wind. A "Hit and Run" so to speak.

I can Completely Understand the "Flight" Reaction that this Person Probably Experienced.

But when the Adrenaline wore off, I hope that he Contacted the Event Coordinators to Explain what Happened. Or At Least, to Check to see if His Mod had Injured someone standing near him.

And I'm Not Saying that he Didn't. And that we are just not Privy to that Information.

 

[Ryedan]

There are certainly people here that are pushing ultra high watt, sub-ohm, mech, etc, as some sort of holy grail of vaping.

I enjoy my 30 watt vape, but I don't push it on anyone. It is however the holy grail of vaping for me and I consider it quite safe the way I do it.

Hopefully this will have a positive outcome and give people pause to think about what is really going on.

I hope so too. This doofus made some mistakes with his hardware and compounded it all by dropping a venting battery, in a mod, in a crowd of people and running away. It doesn't get much dumber than that. I really wouldn't want to be around him even if he was using a eGo

All this for a foolish adolescent kick.

I'm hardly the foolish adolescent kick type and no matter what you think, high power vaping is not going away any time soon. IMO it's gaining in popularity and I understand why. What we need to do is educate better and I don't mean just folks like us. The vape industry could very easily do much better at this than what they've done so far.

 

[rondasherrill]

I have been thinking this very thought for a while now. He really didn't seem to have very many options, and time was obviously not conducive to higher reasoning functions. He simply reacted to a very bad situation in one of the three ways that we humans do react in unplanned, high stress situations. I imagine that fellow is pretty consumed with shame now, and I doubt after all the name calling etc., that we will ever hear from that individual...

You are right, and it's sad, because with an little more than an apology and admission of error this community would happily educate him to prevent this sort of "oh ...." moment moving forward.

 

[ENAUD]

I totally get running away from immediate physical danger in a panic. Got it. But dude straight up left the building like a fart in the wind. A "Hit and Run" so to speak.

It can take a bit of time for a person to "come down" off of a massive adrenalin rush, I have seen people who were practically incoherent from adrenalin more times than I can count. And this was the fun kind of adrenalin rush.

 

[Ryedan]

Meh, I don't know the kid or what he's like, but there are three basic responses to a crisis situation. Fight, flight, or freeze.

Without some type of conditioning, it's easy for the frontal lobe to go on vacation when presented with an entirely unknown situation.

You're right K_Tech, he could have just blew it and run in the heat of the moment. My issue with this is he created the problem and didn't have the decency to come back after the bang, see if anyone was hurt and help if he could. It's like if you're in a car accident and it's your fault. Someone in the other car is hurt and you don't do all you can to help them.