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Bold sections are half of the problem. Stupid makes up the rest.
Maurice
Bold sections are half of the problem. Stupid makes up the rest.
Maurice
Explosion at Vape Blast
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I dunno.
I have done some Consulting. And one of the Things that I Always Pushed for was Full Service. Have a B&M do weekend Coil Building Seminars. Great Way to Bring People in. And then Slap a Little Battery Safety on them.
Have a Web Site? Put a Check Box on Check Out next to the Battery in the Shopping Cart that says... "I have Read and Understand the section on Battery Safety. And Know how to Calculate Amps for my e-Cigarette.
This is Great CYA. But it also will get Many People to take a Look at a Page of Battery Safety.
You Can't Make Anything 100% Safe. And there is No Such Thing as a Complete Release of Legal Liability.
But Retailers could Strive for Great Safety. And Limitation of Litigation Liability.
IQ ID cards would be nice, I don't care how old you are sir your to stupid to use this product, Kmart has crayons in isle 6.
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Well at least now he might put safer devices in a newbie's hands even if it for greed. My situation wasn't the store owner but the employees, my friend that wanted a mech mod asked me a week before if I could help him fix his vape pen because he wasn't getting any vapor and it taste burnt. After looking at his setup for 2 seconds I handed it back to him and told him you can't vape without any juice. Then he kept asking to hit my mech while I was driving and even though I told him mine was dry and I had to add juice he kept asking to hit once, like that would magically add more juice. But, the employees would of sold him a mech setup if my friend was willing to spend the money for it. Stupid people who don't listen and have almost no common sense are setting themselves up for disaster.
Nah... it's called "enlightened self-interest"... he helps them start off safely... later on, they help him make even MO MONEY!
That's a win for everyone.Andria
I believe that Greed is a Tremendously Powerful Driving Force in Many People. But that Same Force can used Many Times to Achieve other Goals besides Bottom Line Profits.
Selling Safety is a Tough Sell. Because Safety Doesn't Sell. But if you can Show an Owner how they can Bring in More People, and slap a little Safety on the while they are their, that's kinda a Win Win.
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Store Employees can be Mis-Guided. Some want to Sell you Something so their Weekly Sales Figures look good. Some Want to Sell You what they Use because they Like it. Even if the Person who is Buying knows NOTHING about what is going on. And Some Employees are just Plain Dolts.
But By Definition, an Employee has a Boss. And that is where Sales Policies should be Coming from.
There is a B&M near my House. If you walk in and ask, they will Build a Coil for you. It's kinda a Come On. But they Won't do it unless you Tell them What Type of Batteries / Mod you have. And can tell them how many Amps are going to be drawn.
This Didn't come from the Employees. It Came from the Owner.
ROFL! There used to be a computer tech support joke along these lines. "Is your computer plugged in?" "Yes" "Ok, unplug it, take it back to the store, and tell them you need a refund because you're just too stupid to operate a computer."
Andria
Nah... it's called "enlightened self-interest"... he helps them start off safely... later on, they help him make even MO MONEY!
Andria
You Betcha.
And the Cool Thing is No Rookie is walking out of the Store with a .03 Ohm Coil and a MOD that gets so Hot that they need to use a "Vaping Towel" to hold it.
I've got Nothing against Mech-Mods and Ultra Sub-Ohm Coils. But for a First Time User? I say Sell him a Vamo and a Carto Tank or some Clearos for 75 Bucks.
Then Nick him Again down the Road for $200 Mod and some 35A Batteries.
You Betcha.
And the Cool Thing is No Rookie is walking out of the Store with a .03 Ohm Coil and a MOD that gets so Hot that they need to use a "Vaping Towel" to hold it.
I've got Nothing against Mech-Mods and Ultra Sub-Ohm Coils. But for a First Time User? I say Sell him a Vamo and a Carto Tank or some Clearos for 75 Bucks.
Then Nick him Again down the Road for $200 Mod and some 35A Batteries.
Of course, once the carto or clearo starts that gurgling nonsense, they google and find ECF and discover the world of online vendors, and realize how much MO MONEY they could keep in their own pockets by buying online. But at least the B&M vendor sold them their first rig, and have the satisfaction of knowing they didn't help anyone kill themselves or burn down their house.
Andria
Of course, once the carto or clearo starts that gurgling nonsense, they google and find ECF and discover the world of online vendors, and realize how much MO MONEY they could keep in their own pockets by buying online. But at least the B&M vendor sold them their first rig, and have the satisfaction of knowing they didn't help anyone kill themselves or burn down their house.
Andria
Yeah... All that.
And there might Also be One Less Guy with a Creepy Hair Cut doing Sub Ohm Vaping Vids with a Stacked 26650 Mod in his Infants Room.
Which would be a Huge Plus In-and-Of Itself.
This constantly pisses me off Maurice. I mean if the suppliers don't get it right, people who actually read/listen to safety messages don't stand a chance
One post to Mr. Hellacious Haircut on the venting video—which has gone from open viewing to restricted, deleted, open and now again restricted—reads, “What irks me is we get this all day in the shop." well so and so did this on youtube, Why can't I?" Because it's not safe!!” YouTube, Mr. Hellacious Haircut and others of his ilk ought to be held responsible if the junior genius that maims or kills himself or anybody else was watching those things. This guy proves once again that you can’t fix stupid but most people and just ignorant. The lucky ones find ECF before they blow something up and heed the warnings.
That's a better shop, where some shope employees no nothing, I went to one where the guy kept telling me a 35 amp Efest is better than a VTC5 and asked why the Efest would always be sold out, when they still have Sonys in stock?
There are ways for stores to force safety on people who are first time buyers, but it would cost them money and some sales, which is why I think it won't happen unless the government steps in even more.
Many B&Ms around have vape meets and raffles and cloud contest, some have paid coil building lessons, but never safety.
That's a Shame. Because I don't think it would be too hard for them to Throw In a Little Safety into Any Kind of Promotion they put on.
And then you see a post like this one
Wants to blow better clouds, doesn't even have a way to test his resistance because he sold his svd ...And it's a dual coil build...
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but but but....CLOUD CHASING IS SO COOL, right guys?.......right?
I don't really see the point. Cigarette smoke didn't make much of a cloud, and I'm vaping to keep from smoking; as long as *some* vapor comes out my mouth, I'm fine. With my asthma, too thick/too hot vapor just gives me an asthma attack, so I stick to 75%-80% PG at 9 watts or so.
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Probably not, but you know some people would just stop listening....safety blah blah blah...how do I blow bigger clouds? The problem too now is with some of the newer mech mods, that are designed for stacking batteries both 18650s and even 26650s.
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