Explosion at Vape Blast

[zoiDman]

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People who go to car races and airshows and vape meets have done so voluntarily. Not so people who go shopping and eating, at least not with the same implied acceptance of risk.

This is a Very Good Point.

 

[TomGeorge]

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I dont have the data but I would be willing to put money on it that more people get hurt shopping and eating than at car races, air shows and vape meets. WE as vapers are not the problem, evne the dumb ones. Its the media, BT, BP, the government and bureaucrats.

 

[zoiDman]

I dont have the data but I would be willing to put money on it that more people get hurt shopping and eating than at car races, air shows and vape meets. WE as vapers are not the problem, evne the dumb ones. Its the media, BT, BP, the government and bureaucrats.

It really Doesn't Matter what goes on at Car Races or Air Shows. That isn't how e-Cigarette Use Polices are Considered.

 

[TomGeorge]

That is what the point was made off of so it has to do with the conversation. And you are right, but that also are not considered by user or bystander safety either

 

[zoiDman]

That is what the point was made off of so it has to do with the conversation. And you are right, but that also are not considered by user or bystander safety either

I think what People should Consider is the FDA is Not about to Regulate RC Hobby Batteries. Or Enact Rules about Safety for Car Races.

But they are for e-Cigarettes and e-Liquids.

Having a Mod Blow Up inside a Crowded e-Cigarette Event doesn't Exactly cast a very good light on the Vaping Industry.

 

[meda_dro]

I think what People should Consider is the FDA is Not about to Regulate RC Hobby Batteries. Or Enact Rules about Safety for Car Races.

But they are for e-Cigarettes and e-Liquids.

Having a Mod Blow Up inside a Crowded e-Cigarette Event doesn't Exactly cast a very good light on the Vaping Industry.

I hope that they do, for consumer safety. I wouldn't want to have that idiot at the vape meet sitting next to me on a plane with that thing in his pocket.

 

[zoiDman]

I hope that they do, for consumer safety. I wouldn't want to have that idiot at the vape meet sitting next to me on a plane with that thing in his pocket.

Nobody wants to.

I think it is time that the OEM's stood up and Played a Greater Role on Mod Safety.

How many Mech Mods are being sold that have No Vent Holes at the Positive end of the Battery Tube?

 

[Dusther]

Not to turn this thread into a clone bash. But how can OEM's stand up and make mods with the vents on the + end and the cloners just omit it on their reproduction. We have all seen this happen. 1000 original devices or 10,000 clones. And now with 30A batteries getting cloned (which in some cases they are actually 7.5 amp batteries) the entire safety has been diminished for the entire industry due to cloning.

 

[TomGeorge]

Nobody wants to.

I think it is time that the OEM's stood up and Played a Greater Role on Mod Safety.

How many Mech Mods are being sold that have No Vent Holes at the Positive end of the Battery Tube?

Probably not as many as there are faulty ego style batteries.

 

[zoiDman]

Probably not as many as there are faulty ego style batteries.

Once again. Comparing Mech Mods to eGo Isn't very Relevant when discussing Mech Mod Venting.

 

[zoiDman]

Not to turn this thread into a clone bash. But how can OEM's stand up and make mods with the vents on the + end and the cloners just omit it on their reproduction. We have all seen this happen. 1000 original devices or 10,000 clones. And now with 30A batteries getting cloned (which in some cases they are actually 7.5 amp batteries) the entire safety has been diminished for the entire industry due to cloning.

Yeah... That's why I didn't mention Genuine vs Clones.

I think ANY Mod Manufacture should look at their Product and ask if it has Adequate Venting.

And it might be the Case where the Clone ads Vent Holes that the Genuine Didn't have.

 

[TomGeorge]

Once again. Comparing Mech Mods to eGo Isn't very Relevant when discussing Mech Mod Venting.

You have been talking about regulating vaping in general mostly to include and mechanical and sub-ohm the whole thread. So, talking about ego's blowing up all the time, does make it relevant in terms of regulation.

 

[JoppaRoadCruiser]

For some reason I decided to check in on vape rag idiot....dude is still posting vids. How has this guy not blown his face off yet? I guess the key word there is yet....

 

[zoiDman]

You have been talking about regulating vaping in general mostly to include and mechanical and sub-ohm the whole thread. So, talking about ego's blowing up all the time, does make it relevant in terms of regulation.

I'm not talking about Regulating Vaping. That is about the Last Thing I want to see happen.

What I am Taking about is Mech Mod OEM's taking a Hard Look as to How Adequate the Venting of their Products Actually is.

 

[TomGeorge]

I'm not talking about Regulating Vaping. That is about the Last Thing I want to see happen.

What I am Taking about is Mech Mod OEM's taking a Hard Look as to How Adequate the Venting of their Products Actually is.

I just went back and looked, and I must have been misinterpreting some of your earlier posts, or read them in a snarky attitude, and they left a bad taste in my mouth. My bad

 

[vapero]

Not to turn this thread into a clone bash. But how can OEM's stand up and make mods with the vents on the + end and the cloners just omit it on their reproduction. We have all seen this happen. 1000 original devices or 10,000 clones. And now with 30A batteries getting cloned (which in some cases they are actually 7.5 amp batteries) the entire safety has been diminished for the entire industry due to cloning.

if OEMs place ventholes correclty cloners will surely copy them in the right place (most of the time)

 

[zoiDman]

I just went back and looked, and I must have been misinterpreting some of your earlier posts, or read them in a snarky attitude, and they left a bad taste in my mouth. My bad

No Problem.

Sometimes Text can be Interpreted in ways it was Not Intend.

 

[Berylanna]

if OEMs place ventholes correclty cloners will surely copy them in the right place (most of the time)

I wish. My clone is a clone of a clone of a clone I think and has significant differences in visible venting. Also a lot of mods vent from the negative end -- I wonder if they could run some vent tubes from the positive end to halfway down or something so you'd drop it but not get blasted in the face?

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

I think what People should Consider is the FDA is Not about to Regulate RC Hobby Batteries. Or Enact Rules about Safety for Car Races.

But they are for e-Cigarettes and e-Liquids.

Having a Mod Blow Up inside a Crowded e-Cigarette Event doesn't Exactly cast a very good light on the Vaping Industry.

Additionally the Legislative and Judicial branches of our government aren't defining or giving out their opinions on RC batteries or car races.
They have and will continue to when it comes to ecigs. Tobacco and tobacco related products are singled out for "preferential" treatment.
Along with pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and explosives/firearms.

Oh and by the way, those "definitions and opinions" by Congress and Courts are called LAWS.
And they even made a special one just for tobacco in 2009.

Explosions will not only raise the eyebrows of the FDA but will get the attention of the an alphabet soup of Federal Agencies.
With letters like F.B.I and A.T.F

Can you imagine CASAA appearing before the FDA on our behalf after the FBI and ATF finished testifying?

 

[zoiDman]

Additionally the Legislative and Judicial branches of our government aren't defining or giving out their opinions on RC batteries or car races.
They have and will continue to when it comes to ecigs. Tobacco and tobacco related products are singled out for "preferential" treatment.
Along with pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and explosives/firearms.

Oh and by the way, those "definitions and opinions" by Congress and Courts are called LAWS.
And they even made a special one just for tobacco in 2009.

Explosions will not only raise the eyebrows of the FDA but will get the attention of the an alphabet soup of Federal Agencies.
With letters like F.B.I and A.T.F

Can you imagine CASAA appearing before the FDA on our behalf after the FBI and ATF finished testifying?

Sigh...

Why should Congress be Giving an Opinion on RC Battery or Car Races?

Is there a Problem? Is there Potential for Addiction? Are Underage People involved when you would like them to be Not? Are the Health Risks Known? Is there a Ginormous Potential Tax Stream? Is there the Potential for a Huge Black Market? Are BB Monies shaping Policy?

Not Sure where these Analogies between _______ and e-Cigarettes come from? Or why People think they are Relevant?