Ya ya but unfortunately thats how particular I am about my juices, and why the taste issue with these juices bums me out so bad. I have searched like crazy to find a new juice, but no such luck. Fruit juices do absolutely nothing for me, and most other tobacco juices are either hazelnut based or RY4ish, which I cant stand. I believe for a juice to be extraordinary it must be tobacco based, taste great, and exceed the satisfaction we once found in real cigs. Bobas and GJ meet these criterias for me, while I can taste them anyways. Sadly it seems very few vendors share this belief and most juices out there are gimmicky, novelty flavors. Its cool though, I am used to being the odd man out. Actually, I bet I could stop vaping and be totally over it anytime I choose, but just like with cigs it's become a habit. Its much better to keep this new, safe habit going than to risk ever going back to cigs.