i took apart an ego battery, basicly just took the battery out, took a usb cable and soldered the wires to the circuit bored where the button is attached to positive and negitive, and also the negitive to the "frame" of the tube as it was when i took it apart, so question being, is there a regulator on that circuit bord or something, cause it works with a reg 510 atty but not a LR510 atty, and with the reg. 510 atty on it it dont feel like its 1 bit stronger then it was to start with, i mean ego puts out like 3.1volts so i hear, or around there, so with 5 volts should be a noticeable diffrence right
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You sort of answered you own question.
If the regulator cuts the 3.7 volts from the internal battery to 3.1 volts (probably PWM) then applying 5 volts to that same regulator circuit will output the same 3.1 volts. The poor little regulator will be working it's little .... off.
That is IF you are actually getting 5 volts through the much longer circuit than the short connections to the factory battery. The USB cord will drop some volts, and your 5 volt USB supply may be whimping out under load. 5 volts open circuit, isn't always 5 volts under load.
If the regulator cuts the 3.7 volts from the internal battery to 3.1 volts (probably PWM) then applying 5 volts to that same regulator circuit will output the same 3.1 volts. The poor little regulator will be working it's little .... off.
That is IF you are actually getting 5 volts through the much longer circuit than the short connections to the factory battery. The USB cord will drop some volts, and your 5 volt USB supply may be whimping out under load. 5 volts open circuit, isn't always 5 volts under load.
ok well is there any way i can remove the regulator from the circuit bord, i mean i dont even know what it looks like, im just playin around and tryin to get some experiance with this stuff, anyway we can get a pic and point it out to me or tell me what it looks like?
but the weird thing is be4 i took it apart and all it worked with my LR510 atty, not with out the battery and the power coming from the USB the LR510 atty no longer works, so im not sure why that is eather, dont make any sence if you ask me
E-cig modding is one place a voltmeter would come in real handy.
Here's a hypothetical guess:
Originally the fully charged 3.7 volt battery was enough to allow the regulator to power up the LR510 atty.
As the voltage of the battery dropped, to maybe 3.2, it could still provide enough to power the LR, just barely.
After mod, the USB supply and the long wire could provide enough voltage, maybe 3.5 to the regular atty, but only 2.9 volts to the regulator (voltage loss due to inadequate USB current and resistance of lead wire) when trying to draw more current for the LR atty. If voltage dropped to 2.9 going into the regulator it probably shut down thinking (yes they can think) it was fed by a undervoltage battery.
USB direct sourcing is not as simple as many think. The USB supply must be able to supply atty current in the first place, and lead wire resistance will drop voltage.
If you actually got 5 volts to the regulator, which I doubt, the high voltage going into the regulator, and the high current going out to the LR atty, might put the regulator into overload and shut it down.
Here's a hypothetical guess:
Originally the fully charged 3.7 volt battery was enough to allow the regulator to power up the LR510 atty.
As the voltage of the battery dropped, to maybe 3.2, it could still provide enough to power the LR, just barely.
After mod, the USB supply and the long wire could provide enough voltage, maybe 3.5 to the regular atty, but only 2.9 volts to the regulator (voltage loss due to inadequate USB current and resistance of lead wire) when trying to draw more current for the LR atty. If voltage dropped to 2.9 going into the regulator it probably shut down thinking (yes they can think) it was fed by a undervoltage battery.
USB direct sourcing is not as simple as many think. The USB supply must be able to supply atty current in the first place, and lead wire resistance will drop voltage.
If you actually got 5 volts to the regulator, which I doubt, the high voltage going into the regulator, and the high current going out to the LR atty, might put the regulator into overload and shut it down.
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ok well i was just playin around tryin to learn some stuff, so your sayin the usb cable i have will not get anywhere near 5v to the atty. what if i was able to take the resistor out of the circuit bord, if it is even possible
Trying to learn is absolutely great.
Learning blind without a meter isn't easy.
Get a cheap meter and you can learn more
and I can't recommend further testing without knowing what you are using for a USB supply. Not a laptop or a game unit?
Learning blind without a meter isn't easy.
Get a cheap meter and you can learn more
and I can't recommend further testing without knowing what you are using for a USB supply. Not a laptop or a game unit?
There is a coupon for a free meter at harbor freight with any regular purchase was in the paper the other day. Or here is a link to the online one Free Multimeter
Trying to learn is absolutely great.
Learning blind without a meter isn't easy.
Get a cheap meter and you can learn more
and I can't recommend further testing without knowing what you are using for a USB supply. Not a laptop or a game unit?
labtop computer
Charlie,
I think you may be on your way to a rather expensive lesson in electronics. You can purchase a 5 volt 2 amp wall supply for about $10 or less and power a regular resistance 510 atty with it if you use a suitable larger gauge USB cable. This 10 watts, when vaping reasonable juice (24 to 36mg/ml) can provide more than enough nic to satisfy your urges. Might have to vape a little more than a few puffs to get there though.
Going back over some of your previous posts, you are jumping around following to much hype, IMHO. 6 volt mods with little bitty stacked batteries (not my mods BTW) and trying LR attys on high volts tells me you are stressed and will follow anyone's over enthusiastic hype you run across. Not trying to be rude or offensive, but once you get in too big a hurry, you just might run past a good solution.
A well tuned, vaping like a smoke stack e-cig will even get a cigar inhaling smoker off tobacco, I know.
But, if you think you need more, your brain will accept that, and you will need more, and will continue to spend money trying to find it.
The laptop USB is a bad idea. I hope you can settle down and get happy with vaping, because until you stop stressing over it, it will never work. Slow down.
I think you may be on your way to a rather expensive lesson in electronics. You can purchase a 5 volt 2 amp wall supply for about $10 or less and power a regular resistance 510 atty with it if you use a suitable larger gauge USB cable. This 10 watts, when vaping reasonable juice (24 to 36mg/ml) can provide more than enough nic to satisfy your urges. Might have to vape a little more than a few puffs to get there though.
Going back over some of your previous posts, you are jumping around following to much hype, IMHO. 6 volt mods with little bitty stacked batteries (not my mods BTW) and trying LR attys on high volts tells me you are stressed and will follow anyone's over enthusiastic hype you run across. Not trying to be rude or offensive, but once you get in too big a hurry, you just might run past a good solution.
A well tuned, vaping like a smoke stack e-cig will even get a cigar inhaling smoker off tobacco, I know.
But, if you think you need more, your brain will accept that, and you will need more, and will continue to spend money trying to find it.
The laptop USB is a bad idea. I hope you can settle down and get happy with vaping, because until you stop stressing over it, it will never work. Slow down.
I haven't tried this supply but it sure looks like it would work for 5 volt vaping. Probably would power any atty, and I would guess the cord is heavier than most USB cords.
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LOL....you're not really paying attention....
But anyway, no. You cannot remove the regulator if that is a control regulator which is your 'power on' relay. I.E. Linear Regulator with Remote Sense.
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