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[Cool_Breeze]

I find many of the statements involving mixing ratios here difficult to follow.

 

[JD1]

Never heard of them. Have you compare their Boba to original?

Oops, never mind...

in case you didn't see it, here's another review of some of those flavors including the Boba's.
Halo Freedom/Smooth/Torque recipes??? | Page 36 | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[Bob Chill]

HS Gold and Silver is a big time winner I pulled out my test bottle last night and couldnt put it down.

To me it tastes exactly like the smell of an unlit high quality cigar. delicious

 

[chopdoc]

Today the flavor being played with is Inawera Latika. By itself its a heavy flavor, almost like charred wood. Very pleasant vape. Then I added 1 drop of DNB and one drop of MM TA and that gave it a nice slight ash throat hit with a woodsy quality to it. Very hard to put down. Later today I want to mix up a 5ml batch with TA Virginia and another one with TA garuda and see how they come out. Either way Latika is a keeper and will be mixing up 30 ml bottles for the daily rotation.
Sitting in the wings for testing is Inawere Dark tobacco and Canadian tobacco. Will give a flavor review when I get a chance to try them.

 

[dannyv45]

Lol.

Well all I know is I once made a 50 ml bottle of one of your recipes, let it steep 4 weeks and then vaped it straight until it was all gone lol. I can't find it at the moment but it was the one that used the TFA Ry4D. Unfortunately, my next bottle of Ry4D wasn't up to snuff and I haven't had the heart to try another. What would you suggest as a similar recipe but not using the Ry4D?

That's a tuff one because everyone likes there ry4 a certain way. I myself no longer make ry4 as I've tired of it. But the last batch I made I used the Hangsen ry4 at 7% hangsen caramel at 1% and the TFA deluce de leche at 2% and if you wish more tobacco essence 1 - 2% samara TA. I am not a fan of the overly sweet ry4's so this worked for me.

I'm thinking the recipe you followed last time was my walk through blog on a simple RY4. That used the ry4D

Mixing 101, The Basics - A simple walk through on mixing a favorate standard... RY4 | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[dannyv45]

HS Gold and Silver is a big time winner I pulled out my test bottle last night and couldnt put it down.

To me it tastes exactly like the smell of an unlit high quality cigar. delicious

I agree it's one of my go to's.

 

[Alter]

I usually use %10 tobacco flavoring where the web sites say only use %2. Its just the way I always have done things yet I am starting to back off on the amounts I use like a mixture I made tonight where usually I would use %10, this time I backed it down to %6 and the flavor was actually more pronounced to me. Strange to say the least, less is more but also a learning point for me.

I found at 5% the Hangsen tobacs were a bit light then tried 8% and it was way to strong so I settled for 6% Hangsen and its perfect with a little bit of added TA and/or AP. The FA 7Leaves I have to mix at 10% and go up to 12% on the next batch. I made a 50 mls of 3% TA a couple weeks back and its bloomed nicely and adds that just goodness to any tobacco, I add maybe 5% of my TA premix.
I've been so in awe over how good this Hangsen is, I have to revisit some of the other tobacco flavors I have to see if they can stay on the shelf or put into the closet.

 

[chopdoc]

I found at 5% the Hangsen tobacs were a bit light then tried 8% and it was way to strong so I settled for 6% Hangsen and its perfect with a little bit of added TA and/or AP. The FA 7Leaves I have to mix at 10% and go up to 12% on the next batch. I made a 50 mls of 3% TA a couple weeks back and its bloomed nicely and adds that just goodness to any tobacco, I add maybe 5% of my TA premix.
I've been so in awe over how good this Hangsen is, I have to revisit some of the other tobacco flavors I have to see if they can stay on the shelf or put into the closet.

I been so use to mixing for the smaller clearomizers like the Kanger T3S's and Pro Tanks or the Aspire Nautilus where it took more flavor for a tasty vape and now that my vaping style has changed where I am using RTA's that it has thrown my mixing into a tail spin and Im trying to find my footing now. I used drippers before but not really mixed for them so its kinda all new to me once again. What was great in a smaller clearomizer is not always great in an RTA and im sure the same goes for an RBA/RDA's. I have been mixing for about 6 months now and everything I learned which is a lot has come from ECF so I am surprised the subject of mixing styles versus various vaping styles hasnt been discussed too much on the forums nor in blogs.

 

[dannyv45]

I've been so in awe over how good this Hangsen is, I have to revisit some of the other tobacco flavors I have to see if they can stay on the shelf or put into the closet.

Try the TA in the one's your going to revisit it just may bring them to life.

 

[dannyv45]

I been so use to mixing for the smaller clearomizers like the Kanger T3S's and Pro Tanks or the Aspire Nautilus where it took more flavor for a tasty vape and now that my vaping style has changed where I am using RTA's that it has thrown my mixing into a tail spin and Im trying to find my footing now. I used drippers before but not really mixed for them so its kinda all new to me once again. What was great in a smaller clearomizer is not always great in an RTA and im sure the same goes for an RBA/RDA's. I have been mixing for about 6 months now and everything I learned which is a lot has come from ECF so I am surprised the subject of mixing styles versus various vaping styles hasnt been discussed too much on the forums nor in blogs.

Yes your correct. What works in clearo's does not always work in RBA's. RBA's tend to deliver far more flavor then clearos or cartos almost to the point that it can over power you.

Your builds also have a lot to do with it. To much wick, to little wick, type of wick (Cotton, rayon, silica, mesh), to much heat, to little heat etc..... all play a factor. So you need to first experiment with different builds and different voltages and determine which works best for your vaping comfort.

You also need to experiment with lower percentages. Usually mixing lighter helps. So try taking a small sample of something you've already mixed and start cutting them (Diluting) in 10% increments and see if that helps.

We don't want to turn this into an RBA building discussion. We want to keep this discussion on point about tobacco flavoring. You can find a lot of information to help you with this in the RBA section of ECF.

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[dannyv45]

HS Gold and Silver is a big time winner I pulled out my test bottle last night and couldnt put it down.

To me it tastes exactly like the smell of an unlit high quality cigar. delicious

I thought the same thing about G&S. Has a similure brightness like Inawera cuban just sweeter.

 

[dannyv45]

I found at 5% the Hangsen tobacs were a bit light then tried 8% and it was way to strong so I settled for 6% Hangsen and its perfect with a little bit of added TA and/or AP. The FA 7Leaves I have to mix at 10% and go up to 12% on the next batch. I made a 50 mls of 3% TA a couple weeks back and its bloomed nicely and adds that just goodness to any tobacco, I add maybe 5% of my TA premix.
I've been so in awe over how good this Hangsen is, I have to revisit some of the other tobacco flavors I have to see if they can stay on the shelf or put into the closet.

It seems with hangsen 5 - 8% seems to be the sweet spot. I do 7 - 8% for all my hangsen tobaccos. You also have to note that I like my vapes on the stronger side with a pronounced tobacco taste.

 

[JD1]

Try the TA in the one's your going to revisit it just may bring them to life.

I'm going from memory here but I'm pretty sure I would have liked the Hangsen flavors I had a lot better if I would of had some Rustica to mix with them.

 

[dannyv45]

TA is one of the best enhancements you can do for a tobacco mix. It seperates the men from the boys, the premium juices from the bargan brands as far as mixes go. It puts a great flavor over the top. Knowing which TA is best for each mix is the key.

 

[derogg]

TA is one of the best enhancements you can do for a tobacco mix. It seperates the men from the boys, the premium juices from the bargan brands as far as mixes go. It puts a great flavor over the top. Knowing which TA is best for each mix is the key.

TA is one of the best enhancements you can do for a tobacco mix. It seperates the men from the boys, the premium juices from the bargan brands as far as mixes go. It puts a great flavor over the top. Knowing which TA is best for each mix is the key.

Maybe you could give us a primer on what TA works well with different tobaccos. I only have Inawera TA but I would think the flavor profiles of different makers would be some what similar.
-Dirk

 

[chopdoc]

TA is one of the best enhancements you can do for a tobacco mix.

And thats where ya knocked it out of the park danny, TA is for enhancement. If someone is using a TA at too high of a percentage then it will dominate the mixture, not enhance it.

 

[Alter]

Yup Danny said it all with "TA is one of the best enhancements you can do for a tobacco mix". I tried to vape it alone and it was awful, put a bit into some Hangsen and its vape nirvana. My first crack with the RTS TA, I put in 3% straight TA and it was just brutal, time to read some more on TA's. Built a 3% 60/40 no nic mix on March 12. The other day I put 5% of that premix into a 30 ml Hangsen and its just awesome. When I'm done vaping the 30ml, next going to tone down to a 4% premix. I do say that TA has provided me with a HUGE stepping stone towards finding my ADV tobacco. I am most definitely going to purchase other TA's to experiment with if they are this good in a tobac juice.

 

[chopdoc]

Today I am still on Inawera Latika but with TA Virgina instead of MM TA. The woodsy quality it had with MM TA seems to not be there but instead it has a rich deep flavor on the inhale. So I poured what was in the Kayfun back into the bottle and added 2 drops of Flavour Art oak wood to the mixture. Dropped it into the UC for a 30 minute 50W steep and gave it a try.... perfection. This could easily be an all day vape. The inhale still has a deep rich flavor with almost a slight and I mean slight hay to it at first I almost wanted to say it reminded me of sawdust. The exhale has a hint of the oak with the ash from the DNB. Now I want a cup of coffee to enjoy with it

 

[chopdoc]

Yup Danny said it all with "TA is one of the best enhancements you can do for a tobacco mix". I tried to vape it alone and it was awful, put a bit into some Hangsen and its vape nirvana. My first crack with the RTS TA, I put in 3% straight TA and it was just brutal, time to read some more on TA's. Built a 3% 60/40 no nic mix on March 12. The other day I put 5% of that premix into a 30 ml Hangsen and its just awesome. When I'm done vaping the 30ml, next going to tone down to a 4% premix. I do say that TA has provided me with a HUGE stepping stone towards finding my ADV tobacco. I am most definitely going to purchase other TA's to experiment with if they are this good in a tobac juice.

RTS, are you talking the Rustica from Samara? or another tobacco absolute?

 

[Alter]

Yes I'm referring to RTS Vapes Tobacco Absolute
Its the only one I've tried and I bought it from reading in here about TA's and what they could bring to your tobacco juice.