Hi all
Just wondered if anyone has found the best way to steep new eliquids or what s your favoured method
Just wondered if anyone has found the best way to steep new eliquids or what s your favoured method
Favourite methods of steeping
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I dont order juice from vendors who use ethyl alcohol or have chemically mixes, so I dont need to use the caps off method. However, anytime I receive juices, I "cook" them in a mini crock pot for 2-3 hours, then let them come to room temp in the water, shaking them a couple times in the process. Usually once is sufficient, but twice may be needed.
The heat thins the juices and helps them mix together. I can typically age a juice about 2-3 weeks with a 3 hour soak.
Beyond that, time in a dark place and regular shake ups.
The heat thins the juices and helps them mix together. I can typically age a juice about 2-3 weeks with a 3 hour soak.
Beyond that, time in a dark place and regular shake ups.
Ive tried several merhds of steeping but time seems to work best. Ive put the bottles in my ultrasonic cleaner for many, many cycles but noticed no difference. Ive heated juice in the microwave and ive used a double boiler. It all seems the same to me. Time and patients is the only method that seems to make much difference.
OK here comes the noob question.
Do they all need to be steeped?
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Do they all need to be steeped?
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No, it is primarily based on your taste perception. I was a steep skeptic until I ordered juices that were made with natural extracts and/or involving more "clinical" process (ie. less exposure to air, light during mixing). Those juices absolutely benefited from steeping. It was a night and day difference from first sample-to steep-to enjoy.
I find regular juices (made with artificial flavorings) do not require this usually.
I would love to hear about the science of those who steep their juice for multiple weeks. How much time really does it need? Multiple weeks seem like a bit much. How did the manufacturer every come up with a recipe if they needed weeks to decide if it was good or not? Not knocking it, but rather curious.
The mini crock pot doesn't boil them at all. it's a warmer rather. The water gets hot, but no hotter than the average tap water faucet, even less. You could put your hand in it without burning. Warmth is the key to thinning the juice allowing the flavors to blend.
Having said that, no, not all juices require it. Simple flavors probably dont. Tobaccos and RY4 types almost always do.
Additionally, I order almost exclusively from Moon Mountain Vapor and AVE now. MMV juices taste awesome from the start and I haven't noticed any improvement with age......although they're so good, the dont last long enough to age in my house.
Here's a pic of the same juice using organic extracts. You can see the difference in color over time from the darker orange color down to the yellow/clear color. The darker it gets, the sweeter and better it tastes. Average time for the darkest one for steeping is maybe a month or 5 weeks. Can't remember. I tend to keep them in rotation steeping so it's naturally steeped and yummy when I need it because its the only flavor I Vape. And to me the best way to steep is time and in a dark cabinet with lid on, shaking occasionally. Some flavors don't require it but this particular flavor does. Once you find a flavor you love, you will learn what works best for that flavor.
I never grasped the whole steeping concept until I started doing DIY myself. I would taste a juice right out of the mailbox and usually not like it. The above flavor is not too good when vaped in its clear yellow stage and nothing like it tastes after its steeped. Now if I order a juice to try I will put it in my cabinet for a bit before I even try it just in case. Or maybe try a few drops in an atomizer and then let it steep and try it later. It's flavor does take a little longer than some others for steeping. It is made with Natures Flavors organics and 100% VG so the VG prolongs the steeping process because it takes longer for all the flavorings to meld together.
I'm impatient and greedy, so I use the heat/hot water method, and it really does help speed up the process, or so it seems. I just use the hot water button on my coffee machine in a bowl and stick the bottles in it and shake-a shake-a. does it work? Well, it does help them mix easier...but I have found that if it smells like .... to begin with no amount of heat, time or hibernation is gonna fix it, lol. But I have a few I am still holdin' out hope for... I check on 'em...pew...not yet..... maybe they still needs more steepin'.........
I hear alot of people doing heat and warm baths but..and I could be wrong, but heat tends to change the flavor sometimes and I consider my juice sort of like fine wine. I don't think they give fine wines a hot bath to hurry the process and there may be a reason for that. I try to plan ahead if at all possible.
Sometimes though a red wine benefits from being poured into a jug. The air that mixes with the wine helps it to "breathe" more quickly.
Well you don't have to take me literally. ha! And honestly some juices don't really need to steep. Also, higher PG juices meld alot faster than 100% VG juices. It really all depends on the flavor and juice. I just know I don't want to leave my juices in my hot car during the day so why would I want to purposely heat them myself? Then again I live in South Florida and my car gets super hot! But I know some say hot baths and such work for them, but they probably aren't using a juice like mine that's 100% VG organic. I don't think my all day vape would work as well in that process.
Is your recipe posted anywhere??
I'm just getting into DIY....and want vanilla to be my first flavor!
PM me if you'd like! TIA!!
Happy (vaping) Trails!
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