FDA and e-cigarettes: Your action needed now.
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FDA forms most of it's regulations based upon science based industry and medical input. I'm watching out for big tobacco as they move into the market. Big tobacco would prefer to limit vaping to pre-filled atomizing devices and will probably advise FDA to ban nicotine base carriers for DIY and bottled liquids for refillable atomizing devices. This may be the biggest threat to vaping as we know it.
I will also add a list of what regulations I (as a consumer) would like to see the FDA apply for e-liquids including ingredient disclosure, accurate ingredient analysis, sanitary production facilities, continuing QC measures, recommended maximum nicotine concentration for base liquids, child-proof containers, batch identification, expiration dates, and certificate of compliance. I'll think of some more before sending it off by snail mail tomorrow, no doubt. I found that paper comments to government are better documented than e-mail.
I'll include my own experience to back my opinion that e-cigarettes and refillable atomizing devices are a valuable, effective and lower risk alternative to smoking.
I will also add a list of what regulations I (as a consumer) would like to see the FDA apply for e-liquids including ingredient disclosure, accurate ingredient analysis, sanitary production facilities, continuing QC measures, recommended maximum nicotine concentration for base liquids, child-proof containers, batch identification, expiration dates, and certificate of compliance. I'll think of some more before sending it off by snail mail tomorrow, no doubt. I found that paper comments to government are better documented than e-mail.
I'll include my own experience to back my opinion that e-cigarettes and refillable atomizing devices are a valuable, effective and lower risk alternative to smoking.
I sent my story to them. I've smoked for 25 years and have tried it ALL to quit. Patches, gum, pills, inhalers. Nothing worked and I never lasted past 2 days. I'm also a 7 year cancer survivor who didn't feel a need to quit then. I got my e-cigarette and I have not smoked once. I started running and I work with horses and my energy level is amazing now although I was a hyper unit before. I hope they don't restrict the nicotine content. That's brutal. Let us pick our own strength we want. Nicotine isn't the drug that kills us in cigarettes and patches. It's all the other crap that also makes us addicted.
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I smoked a pack of cigarettes a day for almost thirty-one years. Tried the patch, Zyban and nicotine lozenges in a desperate attempt to quit because my physician said that my repeated bouts of pneumonia and chronic bronchitis were directly related to my cigarette smoking.
Frustrated with my inability to quit, one day in late October of 2011, I purchased a disposable electronic cigarette at a local gas station. (Here in Ohio, you have to be 21 to purchase these. And that's as it should be!) I was pleasantly surprised by my experience with it, and went on to purchase a couple of rechargeable electronic cigarettes and some e-juice online.
Bottom line, I completely gave up cigarettes on October 29th, 2011. I don't smoke anymore. I vape. Electronic cigarettes have saved me approiximately ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS over my Marlboro habit in the past year. I haven't suffered from pneumonia during this past year and my bronchitis is gone..
My family no longer breathes second-hand smoke. I spend money with small businesses (one of which currently has four job openings posted!) who provide me with a host of choices in nicotine juice flavors, and I've reduced my nicotine level on those "e-juices" from 24 mg to 18 mg with no side effects.
I honestly believe these electronic cigarettes can be a life-saving alternative for those who want to quit smoking but find themselves unable to do so. Banning or restricting these wonderful devices to those 21 and over would be detrimental to the health of the American public.
And me. Please...let the electronic cigarette live, so that many of us can live longer, healthier lives.
I smoked a pack of cigarettes a day for almost thirty-one years. Tried the patch, Zyban and nicotine lozenges in a desperate attempt to quit because my physician said that my repeated bouts of pneumonia and chronic bronchitis were directly related to my cigarette smoking.
Frustrated with my inability to quit, one day in late October of 2011, I purchased a disposable electronic cigarette at a local gas station. (Here in Ohio, you have to be 21 to purchase these. And that's as it should be!) I was pleasantly surprised by my experience with it, and went on to purchase a couple of rechargeable electronic cigarettes and some e-juice online.
Bottom line, I completely gave up cigarettes on October 29th, 2011. I don't smoke anymore. I vape. Electronic cigarettes have saved me approiximately ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS over my Marlboro habit in the past year. I haven't suffered from pneumonia during this past year and my bronchitis is gone..
My family no longer breathes second-hand smoke. I spend money with small businesses (one of which currently has four job openings posted!) who provide me with a host of choices in nicotine juice flavors, and I've reduced my nicotine level on those "e-juices" from 24 mg to 18 mg with no side effects.
I honestly believe these electronic cigarettes can be a life-saving alternative for those who want to quit smoking but find themselves unable to do so. Banning or restricting these wonderful devices to those 21 and over would be detrimental to the health of the American public.
And me. Please...let the electronic cigarette live, so that many of us can live longer, healthier lives.
Thank you for facilitating this. I have submitted my comment with pleasure.
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Submitted with pleasure on 1/6/2013 @ 1:10am - EST
Submitted with pleasure on 1/6/2013 @ 1:10am - EST
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What is your rationale behind this statement:
"6. Tell the FDA that there should not be any time limit on using NRTs, but that it would be better to raise the amount of nicotine each piece provides than to have people use multiple types of products."
I get the no time limit part, but I don't understand the problem with people using multiple types of products under the supervision of their doctor.
As a matter of fact I would think that a combination of the patch to establish baseline nic levels in combination with an appropriate strength e-liquid under the supervision of a doctor would be an excellent strategy.
"6. Tell the FDA that there should not be any time limit on using NRTs, but that it would be better to raise the amount of nicotine each piece provides than to have people use multiple types of products."
I get the no time limit part, but I don't understand the problem with people using multiple types of products under the supervision of their doctor.
As a matter of fact I would think that a combination of the patch to establish baseline nic levels in combination with an appropriate strength e-liquid under the supervision of a doctor would be an excellent strategy.
As a matter of fact, a Dr. testified before the FDA that that is EXACTLY what they have found and it works much better than what we do now. It's been tested in other countries.
The rationale I saw on this forum was that the companies will make more profit, at the expense of the consumer (or, I would assume, the health insurance companies.) To me, this has SOME merit, but going against clinical studies because we're against the companies who are trying to destroy us (Big Pharma) seems to me to be the same flaw we are accusing the FDA of. Now, doing BOTH, that would be a valid point -- let the doctors and patients sort it out, regardless of who makes money.
Dont think the issue is if they choose to use mutiple types of prodcuts I think if the issue is that they would be forced to... lets say I vaped 30mg/ml... If lets say the FDA set it to a maximum of 6mg/ml to get to 30mg/ml youd need to vape+patch+gum+losenge+inahler The person would hence "have" to use multiple types of products.
I tried to multi-quote this but I didn't get it right. I'm responding to a post on this thread that the E.U. has finished their proposal to the E.U. Parliament and is bragging that they got 85000 comments -- without mentioning that they were AGAINST their proposals. And the new proposal would make snus illegal EVEN IN SWEDEN if passed by the E.U. (I have fantasies of Sweden leading a Scandanavian exit from the E.U. over this betrayal, but it is probably not reality.)
I don't know how the EU works but I'll take a wild guess and say it would probably be as important to write to your own city's representatives to your own country's parliament in addition to your country's rep to the E.U. It is important to let your own country know how you feel about the E.U. turning into a corporate dictatorship, and can't your own parliament throw their weight on the rep to the E.U.?
ESPECIALLY bring it to your country's attention that they are LYING about the content of the comments, and urge them to get their hands on them.
If I'm full of it, someone please correct me and bump. I need to be able to take my vapes with me when my company sends me to Europe. And if they make it too hard to travel there, my vacations will start getting scheduled elsewhere.
I don't know how the EU works but I'll take a wild guess and say it would probably be as important to write to your own city's representatives to your own country's parliament in addition to your country's rep to the E.U. It is important to let your own country know how you feel about the E.U. turning into a corporate dictatorship, and can't your own parliament throw their weight on the rep to the E.U.?
ESPECIALLY bring it to your country's attention that they are LYING about the content of the comments, and urge them to get their hands on them.
If I'm full of it, someone please correct me and bump. I need to be able to take my vapes with me when my company sends me to Europe. And if they make it too hard to travel there, my vacations will start getting scheduled elsewhere.
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That would be very bad, I agree, but that was not the discussion at the time.
I think they accept .doc, and OpenOffice can also create .doc format.
I don't know how well mine is, but I hoped that something is better than nothing. May one more candle in the dark be lit, and the million candles burning light the dark side of every human mind.
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Done!! Here's mine: 1jx-82ym-5c2j
I also posted here as a blog on my page if you wanna read it.
I also posted here as a blog on my page if you wanna read it.
Thanks, it didn't tell me that it wouldn't accept pdf, just hung in limbo. converted it to a doc and loaded instantly. 1jx-82yn-c5y7
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