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FDA approves E-cig

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by bruiser, Oct 13, 2021.

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  1. bruiser

    bruiser Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2010
    Louisville, KY
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  2. Rossum

    Rossum "Chump" Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
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    I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you, that the first product with an approved marketing order is a tobacco-flavored cig-a-like from a BT company.
     
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  3. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Yeah... No One Saw that Coming.
     
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  4. Coyote628

    Coyote628 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2017
    I know there are those that like tobacco flavors. I'm not one of those. And I would never buy a Vuse even if they had my favorite flavor. This "approval" is but a token and a large "screw you" to everyone who vapes.
     
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  5. tj99959

    tj99959 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Aug 13, 2011
    utah
    Having one approved ... ANYTHING approved is a win.
    And, we all knew that it would be a stink flavored product from a BT company.
     
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  6. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    Simply another misdirecting CYA moment for the FDA with a flourish of disdain for their trivial earnest antagonists (that'd be us). I give 'em the double-barreled middle digit.

    Good luck. :)
     
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  7. Coyote628

    Coyote628 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2017
    True
     
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  8. Rossum

    Rossum "Chump" Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I think the FDA had to approve something in order to show that they weren't banning the entire class of "tobacco products", which is something actual legislation prohibits them from doing.
     
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  9. Bliss Doubt

    Bliss Doubt Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 10, 2012
    San Antonio
    I'm cautiously cynical, while trying to remain cynically hopeful. I don't understand approving just one product, though we know big tobacco buys what it wants from puppet government. At least the vape isn't banned, is not "medicalized", is not limited to max 6 mg nic. But I think I feel a non-tobacco flavor ban coming on. Maybe a ban of nic base? Ban of open systems? Very possibly. Make the overture to destruction look good.
     
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  10. Myrany

    Myrany Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 14, 2013
    Louisiana
    And they picked something that for the most part doesn't resemble MOST of the devices in use today (being ancient tech) and therefore is near useless as a substantial equivalent path to a shortcut PMTA going forward. I do not for a minute think that is accidental.

    Yeah I am that cynical these days.
     
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  11. smacuser

    smacuser Vapid Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 22, 2012
    Vape Augustine, FL
    Cool. Vuse is my road dog.
     
  12. UncleJunkle

    UncleJunkle Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2010
    UDIO, Clown World
    The article says the Vuse Solo is refillable, but I'm pretty sure it's not. Vuse would sell bottles of juice if they made refillable products, but they don't.

    Sure, you could probably refill the carts with some effort, but I'm pretty sure the solo is designed to be a closed system.
     
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  13. Ed Brown

    Ed Brown Super Member ECF Veteran

    I predict that they'll approve Juul, which started this whole excrement extravaganza.
     
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  14. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    So-Cal
    I'd say the Odds on that are Six, Two and Even.
     
  15. Bliss Doubt

    Bliss Doubt Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 10, 2012
    San Antonio
    It appears to me that all of the flavors on the Vuse site are offered only at 50 mg/ml, 24 or 18. No 12, no 9, no 6. Gawd, it's like they really think so little of us.

    Do people really vape 50 mg? 5 percent nic.
     
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  16. Ed Brown

    Ed Brown Super Member ECF Veteran

    It's probably nic salt. Totally different animal.
     
  17. UncleJunkle

    UncleJunkle Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 29, 2010
    UDIO, Clown World
    Not really, 50mg is 50mg. It's just that 50mg nic salt won't be harsh like 50mg freebase, but it's still 50mg.
     
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  18. Ed Brown

    Ed Brown Super Member ECF Veteran

    Yeah you're right as to the concentrations, but there are differences in how it's absorbed by the body and how it's vaped.
     
  19. DaveOno

    DaveOno ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    At 50, 24 or 18, to me, it seems an attempt by Vuse to keep you addicted to nicotine, hence, continue to buy. Just as BT had done for ages. and Juul's goal as well.

    imho, the beauty of our vapes is the ability to easily and reliably control our nic intake. Since I wanted to quit the addiction to cigarettes, I then want to reduce my dependency on vaping. I'm down from 18 when I started to between 2.5 to 5.

    I didn't want to replace one uncontrolled addiction with another. Yes, I'm still addicted to nic and vaping, but for me, it is by my choice.

    Vuse takes that away from me.
     
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  20. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    So-Cal
    50mg/ml on a High Powered Device/Modern RTA would make me Sing the Body Electric.

    But for a Low Powered device like a Vuse Solo, with a circa 2011 Cart, it is probably about Normal for a MTL-er.
     
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