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I quit cigarettes by vaping 18 mg. After being off cigarettes for a few weeks, 18 mg was just too much. I realized it was making me feel wired, causing me to wake up in the middle of the night, making me a bit "nic sick", so I reduced to 12 mg, where I have stayed for nearly 10 years. 12 mg is a security blanket, my binky, my happy juice. I'm not ashamed to admit that, since it keeps me off deadly cigarettes, keeps me from ever even thinking about having a cigarette, even when someone walks past me with a lit one.
I agree with you. Let us choose, regulate our nic levels ourselves, to whatever it takes for us to be free from burning tobacco.
So the old mantra "It is difficult to become addicted to nicotine without tobacco being involved" needs an addendum?
I'm surprised to see all the negative comments about this. This is the first time the FDA has approved a vape device as a smoking cessation product. This may save vaping and opens the door for other manufactures to follow the path. It took years for them to review and make the ruling. Yes, Juul has also run the gauntlet and may be approved in the future. With the costs involved I'm not surprised to see its big tobacco getting it done, most manufacturers couldn't afford to do it. Maybe it will drive down the cost of the approval cycle now that the genie is out of the bottle. I see this as fantastic news. It's an official medical acknowledgement that vaping is far less damaging than cigarettes and is on the list of products recommended to quit smoking. The potential is there for how vaping effects insurance rates and so on in the future. It's the first time our government has actually reviewed and agreed with a vape study, instead of just saying it looks like smoking so it must be bad. This is an official government ruling that vaping helps people to quit smoking. Huge win for our side.
It's not approved as a "smoking cessation product". It's approved as an alternative (recreational) tobacco product that's "appropriate for the public health".
No, again, it's not considered a "medical" or "medicinal" product. It's simply an acceptable "New tobacco product" within the definitions of the 2009 Tobacco Control Act. If you use it, you're still a dirty, rotten, "tobacco user". Your heath insurance provider will happily confirm this.
I think the reporter got confused between refillable and replaceable. I haven't used a Vuse, but in the photos it looks like you reuse the battery and just change out the empty carts/tanks with new ones. It reminds me of the original Blu cigalike.
The Vuse Solo also has a Proprietary Connector. So 510 Stuff Doesn't Fit (Work?) on it.
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Even with the unique connector, when the cart goes dry, you can replace it with a new one. If someone wasn't familiar with various vape devices, I can see them calling it refillable instead of replaceable. If it has the added feature of a smart connector keeping track of puffs/liquid so that it won't fire if it thinks the cart was modified, I can see why it might get early approval.The Vuse Solo also has a Proprietary Connector. So 510 Stuff Doesn't Fit (Work?) on it.
You are Correct.
Every PMTA I read referenced the term "Unadulterated" multiple times. Something that the FDA considers a High Priority.
It just warms my tiny little heart to know that my Big Brother is watching out for my health and welfare.
If I ever run out of nicotine for making my own liquid (20 years?) I suppose by then they will have everything sorted out on the vaping front. I'm sure BT will prevail.
From what I have read the big tobacco companies are now sending most of their cigarettes to China and other countries because Americans are smoking less. This leads me to believe that they will eventually be big suppliers of vaping products in the future in order to keep making money here. I believe that will be a good thing in the long run for the vaping community. I think that the more products they get approved the better it will be for us.
On the one side i agree with you on the other what worries me is the tax issues that will come with this.
What if they over tax the hell out of vaping products?
Vaping should be considered a medical grade aid towards addiction to cigarettes and as such it should require little to no tax.
Sure tax the devices with the normal tax,same as you would pay if you bought a smartphone or a blender,same for e-liquid...but when it comes to nicotine they will go overboard.
They will tax nicotine since it has no other use than for vaping,PG/VG has many uses so i don't see them taxing those aswell.
That's a fallacy. The tax might be lower on a medical device, but the total cost will still be high anyhow. And the product will be largely ineffective. Besides, I want to vape nicotine recreationally.
I'd rather buy a Vuse Solo than a Astra Zeneca Quitrolia XR or AddictoNix OTC.
My goal isn't to quit nor do I want to pay for my nicotine through an insurance company.
While my state has voted in a %60 tax on all nicotine vaping products if we were to add on top of that Federal taxes as well it could easily make vaping more expensive then smoking.
Surely having *something* vape related approved is better than having nothing.
Personally, I find it odd that BT did not first go for UNFLAVORED juice as I'd think it would be the easiest to get the approval for - after all less chemicals to understand.
Frankly for me personally I no longer have any skin in the game as I amassed a lifetime supply of devices and nicotine.
Funny when I'm out in public I'll often get questioned as to why my vaping device is so "big":
when it is the SMALLEST device/setup I currently own! LOL
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Surely having *something* vape related approved is better than having nothing.
Personally, I find it odd that BT did not first go for UNFLAVORED juice as I'd think it would be the easiest to get the approval for - after all less chemicals to understand.
Frankly for me personally I no longer have any skin in the game as I amassed a lifetime supply of devices and nicotine.
Funny when I'm out in public I'll often get questioned as to why my vaping device is so "big":
when it is the SMALLEST device/setup I currently own! LOL
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Don't really understand your response buddy,no idea what a Covid shot or AddictoNix OTC (no idea what it is by the way,tried google and no luck) have to do with what i posted.
Maybe it's me and my post wasn't reflecting what i meant,then that is on me...
In my post i was just trying to say that Nicotine for vaping shouldn't be paying the same tax as cigarettes and alcohol.
This article i found is pretty good:
https://taxfoundation.org/state-vaping-taxes-2021/
When i wrote ''Vaping should be considered a medical grade aid towards addiction to cigarettes'' i meant that it should already be clear by this time that vaping is healthier than smoking and that it is a good step to take for those that want to quit smoking.
Wasn't suggesting that nicotine (or any vaping products) be subsidized by the government,but they should be accepted as an aid or ''help'' to those who want to achieve a healthier lifestyle by switching to vaping.
Over taxing of nicotine or any vaping products will just lead to people going back to smoking,raising taxes by a lot just seems like a bad way to make up for the loss of revenue because of people that stop smoking and start vaping.
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The justification will always come down to "the children".
The taxation of tobacco products while it can generate lot$ of revenue is more often than not justified by attempting to price the products out of the spending abilities of children.
After all (as the story goes) if kids simply can't AFFORD the product(s) they won't use them.
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