I've requested the extension and sent the tracking receipt to CASAA as per the instructions here CASAA: First Call to Action for FDA Proposed Regulations - Consumer Request for an Extension of Comment Period
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I've requested the extension and sent the tracking receipt to CASAA as per the instructions here CASAA: First Call to Action for FDA Proposed Regulations - Consumer Request for an Extension of Comment Period
I couldn't get the link to work:
casaa.fdacommentarchive@gmail.com
..but I got my request into the FDA.
It worked for me. (I should say, I didn't get a "mailer daemon" notification that the email didn't go through anyway)
Try sending a new email from the email account that you use. Copy/ paste the address directly to your email. That's what worked for me.
Clicking that link is supposed to open your email software and create a new email addressed to that email address.
If your computer isn't set up to do that, then as salemgold said, you can just do it manually.
That isn't really a link so much as it is an email address.
It's where you should send your assigned comment number once you have requested the extension.
Just thinking this morning...
What gives me heart in all of this is the very real possibility that the exponential growth of vaping will affect public opinion (especially the opinion of non-smokers) far more effectively than all of the Antz campaigns and FDA BS ever could.
When I started back in 2010 the average person had no idea what an e-cig was. At this point everyone does, and that exposure is increasingly first hand - family members and friends have taken it up, regular people, known and loved and trusted. (There were a bunch of us at the last wedding that I attended, all ages and including the MOB, all of us well-known to be previous smokers - the response was mostly relaxed, positive and congratulatory. People aren't altogether stupid. They frequently know when to roll their eyes.)
I think poll results like the MSNBC one currently running (87% pro so far) would be consistent in most subcultures in the US - most fortunately, use isn't tightly related to a particular age group or political affiliation or region or lifestyle (unlike, say, Other Substance back in the day, or, say, chewing tobacco). The agitprop can say that they don't help with cessation, but if your spouse or Mom or friend is living proof that it ain't so, and their health is thriving, Antz creds are down the drain. My sense is that the reason we're able to block bad bills in states and smaller districts is that legislators themselves are increasingly getting that kind of positive, everyday exposure. They're not just arguing with activists, they're arguing with their best buddy and their neighbor.
As vaping makes its own good reputation and becomes normative in all sorts of communities, none of which will have been harmed by it, opposing it will lose any political cachet. And that does count.
Whether that can trump the big $$ remains to be seen, but I'm thinking that we do have time on our side in this one. A lot can happen in 4 years. (But I'm not one who believes that public opinion is entirely overlooked by our legislators - that would also be suicide for them, and has been. That sentiment is most strongly held at any point in time by persons whose side has lost elections.)
Anyway, not suggesting that we go all sanguine and relax our efforts; minimizing the clout of our opponents would be suicide. But we may just have a very large percentage of the citizenry on our side already. I think it's going to matter a lot.
What gives me heart in all of this is the very real possibility that the exponential growth of vaping will affect public opinion (especially the opinion of non-smokers) far more effectively than all of the Antz campaigns and FDA BS ever could.
When I started back in 2010 the average person had no idea what an e-cig was. At this point everyone does, and that exposure is increasingly first hand - family members and friends have taken it up, regular people, known and loved and trusted. (There were a bunch of us at the last wedding that I attended, all ages and including the MOB, all of us well-known to be previous smokers - the response was mostly relaxed, positive and congratulatory. People aren't altogether stupid. They frequently know when to roll their eyes.)
I think poll results like the MSNBC one currently running (87% pro so far) would be consistent in most subcultures in the US - most fortunately, use isn't tightly related to a particular age group or political affiliation or region or lifestyle (unlike, say, Other Substance back in the day, or, say, chewing tobacco). The agitprop can say that they don't help with cessation, but if your spouse or Mom or friend is living proof that it ain't so, and their health is thriving, Antz creds are down the drain. My sense is that the reason we're able to block bad bills in states and smaller districts is that legislators themselves are increasingly getting that kind of positive, everyday exposure. They're not just arguing with activists, they're arguing with their best buddy and their neighbor.
As vaping makes its own good reputation and becomes normative in all sorts of communities, none of which will have been harmed by it, opposing it will lose any political cachet. And that does count.
Whether that can trump the big $$ remains to be seen, but I'm thinking that we do have time on our side in this one. A lot can happen in 4 years. (But I'm not one who believes that public opinion is entirely overlooked by our legislators - that would also be suicide for them, and has been. That sentiment is most strongly held at any point in time by persons whose side has lost elections.)
Anyway, not suggesting that we go all sanguine and relax our efforts; minimizing the clout of our opponents would be suicide. But we may just have a very large percentage of the citizenry on our side already. I think it's going to matter a lot.
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I think most people would agree that this is, and always has been, pretty much the only way we can ever win this thing.
We have already been given a lot more time to grow than many of us expected.
Let's hope we keep getting more and more time.
Agree.
My strategy since 2012 has been to convert smokers every chance I get, and swell our ranks. Each vaper I convert will affect their person "circle" more than the news, the article in the NYT, etc. If we can reach enough people, we will be very difficult to stop (in the long term).
Meanwhile, like you said, we fight the system tooth and nail. Buying the cause a few months here, and a few months there, could just make a difference...
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Ya. I know it's pretty obvious, but it mitigates the furious, claustraphobic gloom some to remember it. In my somewhat long lifetime I've seen so many desperately stubborn wrongs righted in this country (my Dad was gay, in the damnable fifties, so that's one of the most heartening ones for me personally, and there are many others); this one, essentially just a public health issue, and especially with non-partisan support from the streets, even if only tacit, may just have a better chance of success than I've been thinking lately.
O wow. Really sorry to multiple post, but just coincidentally stumbled upon a perfect case in point. Shumlin is about as far left as any elected official can be. He's also apparently had some positive exposure to ecigs in his personal life.
Read his comments on a recently concluded bill to heavily tax e-cigs:
http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/...116000-e-cigarette-lesson/Content?oid=2356043
Outcome? From our beloved mod:
"This bill has concluded favorably!
Update from CASAA:
CASAA: Call to Action! Vermont Bill Would Impose Massive 92% E-Cigarette Tax
UPDATE 5/10/14: THIS CALL TO ACTION HAS BEEN CONCLUDED FAVORABLY, WITH THE E-CIGARETTE TAX BEING REMOVED FROM HB 884 BEFORE PASSAGE.
UPDATE 5/6/14: HB 884 is now pending before the Revenue Committee (joint committee with members of both the Vermont House and Senate). Members of the Vermont House are strongly in favor of the tax, but both the Senate and Governor Peter Shumlin have stated that they are concerned that the tax is a bad idea.
Read his comments on a recently concluded bill to heavily tax e-cigs:
http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/...116000-e-cigarette-lesson/Content?oid=2356043
Outcome? From our beloved mod:
"This bill has concluded favorably!
Update from CASAA:
CASAA: Call to Action! Vermont Bill Would Impose Massive 92% E-Cigarette Tax
UPDATE 5/10/14: THIS CALL TO ACTION HAS BEEN CONCLUDED FAVORABLY, WITH THE E-CIGARETTE TAX BEING REMOVED FROM HB 884 BEFORE PASSAGE.
UPDATE 5/6/14: HB 884 is now pending before the Revenue Committee (joint committee with members of both the Vermont House and Senate). Members of the Vermont House are strongly in favor of the tax, but both the Senate and Governor Peter Shumlin have stated that they are concerned that the tax is a bad idea.
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And then there's this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-contact-us-senate-help-committee-today.html
Only one day warning. What was it John Lennon said about a conspiracy of silence? Good grief!
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-contact-us-senate-help-committee-today.html
Only one day warning. What was it John Lennon said about a conspiracy of silence? Good grief!
Very nice comments by Shumlin, sounds like he may actually know someone that vapes, or at the very least been exposed to the truthful science. Afraid his support may be fleeting if all the local articles are like the one you posted, even the title is mocking him...
http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/s...nt?oid=2356043
Let us not forget that Obama care is mostly funded by tobacco taxes (the dollar a pack he implemented nationwide). He is funding health care, which is rising in cost at an alarming rate, with the tobacco industry that is on the decline. To make it worse the ecigs are taking away even more of the revenues. So........I believe He will eventually tax ecigs just like analogs. Right now their just getting their ducks in a row to execute it. Making ecigs fall under tobacco jurisdiction is just the first step.
Not at all, the $116,000 was not to sign it, I'm just hoping he stays bought....
Yeah, not over by a long shot....
Not at all, the $116,000 was not to sign it, I'm just hoping he stays bought....
Yeah, not over by a long shot....
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