FDA spokesman acknowledges tobacco product classifcation [Paducah Sun, Kentucky]

[DuncanDisordely]

why isn't it classified as a recreational hobby thingymajig whamjammit doodleplopper? (excuse the technical terms, I'm a lawyer) - they get away with selling lots of things that are 'recreational' for adults.

I don't see how they could call it medication, this may have already been answered but are their current nrt/nct bullplop solutions classed as medicinal? Nicotine is not medication! Well, it kinda is and isnt, ok i've confused myself. Why did I post to begin with?

I just don't get it. Nicotine comes mainly/originally/whatever from the tobacco plant..... we've been getting it from tobacco for years, why would one product suddenly be classed as medicinal or whatever just so they can win a poxy battle? They won't win the war anyway so it will be a shallow victory.

ps im not really a lawyer, I'm dyslexic and passed the bra exam by mistake. but "thingymajig" "whamjammit" & "doodleplopper" are all genuine legal terms - trust me I'm a doctor. Oh no I'm not really a doctor...................plop....

 

[dee5]

You may not be a Dr or a Lawyer Duncan, but you ARE hilarious!

 

[DuncanDisordely]

heheh...thank you *hides in corner*

 

[Traver]

Wasn't ...... and other medications sold in the liquid at the time the FDA went to court?

 

[Vocalek]

Wasn't ...... and other medications sold in the liquid at the time the FDA went to court?

There was one Chinese-based Web site selling liquid that claimed to contain ...... and other medications. The FDA tested some of these and discovered (probably to their great surpirse) that the liquid actually DID contain these medications. This company was one of the vendors that received warning letters from the FDA a few months ago.

The company was screwed either way. If the FDA did not find the medications, they could say that the company was fradulently misrepresenting its product contents. Since they did find the medications, the FDA can (and did) say that the products are "adulterated."

 

[rothenbj]

Of course they were "adulterated" and that was good "minorerated" would have been bad.

 

[Bustastew]

The FDA would make more money if it was a drug delivery device. FY 2010 for them required drug companies with clinical data (cough, safe and effective?) to pay $1,405,500.

http://www.e-cig.org/pdfs/FDA-2009-Drug-Fees.pdf

The FDA needs to be redesigned to serve the public, instead of being such a powerful enemy to our health =(

 

[DuncanDisordely]

.....The FDA needs to be redesigned to serve the public, instead of being such a powerful enemy to our health =(

Amen to that!

 

[Vocalek]

The FDA needs to be redesigned to serve the public, instead of being such a powerful enemy to our health =(

+1 (What DD said)

 

[MoonRose]

The FDA are no better than home grown pirates or terrorists holding smokers hostage by refusing to tell people that smokeless tobacco products and e-cigs are magnitudes safer to use than smoking is. They only want their blood money, they don't care about people's health at all.

 

[Traver]

The FDA needs to be redesigned to serve the public, instead of being such a powerful enemy to our health =(

As long as politicians depend on money and advertising from the fortune 500 it's not going to happen. At least not the way we want.

 

[Traver]

There was one Chinese-based Web site selling liquid that claimed to contain ...... and other medications. The FDA tested some of these and discovered (probably to their great surpirse) that the liquid actually DID contain these medications. This company was one of the vendors that received warning letters from the FDA a few months ago.

The company was screwed either way. If the FDA did not find the medications, they could say that the company was fradulently misrepresenting its product contents. Since they did find the medications, the FDA can (and did) say that the products are "adulterated."

Yes, but ever wonder where this would have gone if wasn't for the FDA.

 

[DuncanDisordely]

Yes, but ever wonder where this would have gone if wasn't for the FDA.

ahem ahem, exsqueeze me...which 'this' would one be reffering to?

 

[Vocalek]

Yes, but ever wonder where this would have gone if wasn't for the FDA.

I guess with that particular product, the only way to go is up.

 

[ByStander1]

I guess with that particular product, the only way to go is up.

Dang! Thanks, Lady! First laugh of the morning

 

[Traver]

I guess with that particular product, the only way to go is up.

That was good.

 

[sqirl1]

The FDA are no better than home grown pirates or terrorists holding smokers hostage by refusing to tell people that smokeless tobacco products and e-cigs are magnitudes safer to use than smoking is. They only want their blood money, they don't care about people's health at all.

FDA = Fe||ati0 Driven A$5whipes

 

[Vocalek]

Well that certainly sounds yucky!

 

[Beez]

Yes it does Vocalek. Those of us with vulnerabilities to visuals might lose our dinner! 8-o

 

[sqirl1]

noooooo I didn't mean it in a gross way! I meant that the FDA is a bunch of a5$ whipes who only care about who gives them the best corporate BJ, IE they're driven by fe||atio. the FDA only cares about 2 things:

1. who pays them off the most (which I refer to as a corporate BJ) "yes Mr. Renoylds.... just suck a little harder and we'll make sure those nasty E-cig companies can never put you out of business!"

2. what is politically safe? "will we get negative feedback from the american lung association who are tied to the people who make patches and chantix and all that if we even acknowledge this might be a better alternative than smoking? you bet! defending this product is political suicide"