Fear of reaching 0mg
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I must be missing something here , why is there fear , fear about what ? I would celebrate myself.
Yeah I thought I would one day be vaping no Nicotine but when I did it I just thought there is no pleasure in it so why was I even vaping? Whatever works for you is how I look at it. A forum friend is now at Zero and his goal is to give up vaping. Me personally I enjoy how similar it is to smoking but it has 6,999 less chemicals and the one vaping does have is not know to be a carcinogen that being nicotine.
I bounced around when I first started vaping. I even had a lot of 0mg juices, but after awhile, I "cheated" and got a small bottle of 24mg to mix in just a little in my EVOD tanks as I filled with juice. Got more serious with DIY and was mixing 9-12mg for quite some time. Earlier this year, I dropped from 12 to 6. I'm stepping away from my old ProTanks and more toward sub-ohmming. I may trickle down to 3mg over the next year. After that, who knows.
For me, I think it's a "control" thing.
For me, I think it's a "control" thing.
The only thing that bugs me about zero, absolute zero, is that then I'm going to think, "Why am I even vaping?" It's like drinking N/A beer. N/A beer is annoying to me, it's expensive and what's the point?
For some people, myself included, the physical act is a large part of the habit/addiction. I have "busy hands" which always have to be holding or fiddling something. Even at 0 nic the hand-to-mouth, inhale/exhale and feel/flavor are just as important.
Oh, oh, oh! I know (cuz I have the same fear). It's the fear of craving nic (the cigarette kind). We remember that craving when we stopped smoking and the craving got so bad that we went back to smoking.
It's that fear that we fear most. Going back to smoking. Irrational? Yes. Legitimate? To our minds it is.
Oh, oh, oh! I know (cuz I have the same fear). It's the fear of craving nic (the cigarette kind). We remember that craving when we stopped smoking and the craving got so bad that we went back to smoking.
It's that fear that we fear most. Going back to smoking. Irrational? Yes. Legitimate? To our minds it is.
Thank God someone answered , i am not used to waiting days on end for a response , i can only sit and wait so long .
After 14 hours straight i started to doze off but would occasionally lift my head to see if someone responded.
Periodic head lifts to check for a response over the next day was OK but i am glad Robino came to the rescue so i can now get out of my chair and use restroom .
Ummmm, yeah, this!!! I WISH I had the OP's "problem"! I'm still 36-40mg and a dual user! Yeah, I suck, I know.Im still working with 36
I dropped to 0% when AR passed the law of no online sales. Didn't really feel like getting into the stockpiling thing, so now I can just DIY w/out worrying bout nic.
Once in a while a friend will send me some 3% or 1.5%.....I dilute it (not used to vendor eliquid anymore!.......too much sweetner and flavoring! You don't realize til you "get off it". ) so I don't know exactly what I'm vaping when I do that.
I guess there's a trace of nic left.
I just vape for the behavioral thing now, blowing vapor, the ritual of it all. I don't feel a bit different now that I'm on 0%.
....my goals were to quit smoking, and to not spend the money I saved from smoking on vaping, so other than the 1st 1-1/2 years when I did spend......... so my savings account is pretty nice now.
Once in a while a friend will send me some 3% or 1.5%.....I dilute it (not used to vendor eliquid anymore!.......too much sweetner and flavoring! You don't realize til you "get off it". ) so I don't know exactly what I'm vaping when I do that.
I guess there's a trace of nic left.I just vape for the behavioral thing now, blowing vapor, the ritual of it all. I don't feel a bit different now that I'm on 0%.
....my goals were to quit smoking, and to not spend the money I saved from smoking on vaping, so other than the 1st 1-1/2 years when I did spend......... so my savings account is pretty nice now.
A couple of years ago I was concerned about smoker vs non-smoker with Obamacare coming on, so I started dropping nic levels over time. I went from 24mg down to 0 in 6mg increments. When I hit zero nic it was BORING! I couldn't deal with no nic bite at all, so I went back up to 3mg and have stayed there for a couple of years now.
If I score smoker status on some nosy blood test I can always say that I pop a Nicorette lozenge here and there instead of admitting to vaping (which is the same as smoking to insurance companies). It's crazy that Nicorette is OK with insurance companies, but vaping is a reason to jack you up to smoker rates.
Life just ain't fair sometimes.
If I score smoker status on some nosy blood test I can always say that I pop a Nicorette lozenge here and there instead of admitting to vaping (which is the same as smoking to insurance companies). It's crazy that Nicorette is OK with insurance companies, but vaping is a reason to jack you up to smoker rates.
Life just ain't fair sometimes.
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I would just say I ate a lot of Night Shade Vegetables recently if I was to score enough to register on some nosy test!
I thought of that, but you'd have to eat bushels to get a smoker rating. That's supposedly built into the background nic rate for the population to prevent false positives.
I started at 24 mg without a plan to lower my nic level. As the months passed, I started buying some 18 mg e-liquids and putting them into rotation just to see how things went.
I kept doing that (still without a plan) over the last three years until now, and I'm generally at 0-3 mg with the occasional 6 mg for some of my lower-powered setups.
I might be at strictly 0mg eventually. If it happens, it happens, but I'm not going to sweat getting there.
I kept doing that (still without a plan) over the last three years until now, and I'm generally at 0-3 mg with the occasional 6 mg for some of my lower-powered setups.
I might be at strictly 0mg eventually. If it happens, it happens, but I'm not going to sweat getting there.
After vaping 12mg for well over 6 years, one day I just went straight to zero.
Didn't notice a thing.
Been vaping zero for over 9 months now.
Still don't notice a thing.
But once I retire I am definitely going to start using nicotine again.
For now I'm vaping zero because I refuse to pay for the privilege of using nicotine.
My health insurance at work initiated an extortion fee of $50/month.
That really pisses me off too, let me tell you.
Didn't notice a thing.
Been vaping zero for over 9 months now.
Still don't notice a thing.
But once I retire I am definitely going to start using nicotine again.
For now I'm vaping zero because I refuse to pay for the privilege of using nicotine.
My health insurance at work initiated an extortion fee of $50/month.
That really pisses me off too, let me tell you.
After vaping 12mg for well over 6 years, one day I just went straight to zero.
Didn't notice a thing.
Been vaping zero for over 9 months now.
Still don't notice a thing.
But once I retire I am definitely going to start using nicotine again.
For now I'm vaping zero because I refuse to pay for the privilege of using nicotine.
My health insurance at work initiated an extortion fee of $50/month.
That really pisses me off too, let me tell you.
They really hit on vapers with "same as smoking" rates. You can weigh 400 pounds and no one asks about that. They also don't ask how much alcohol you consume or whether you own a motorcycle.
I agree. If I generally use unflavored VG/H2O, sometimes I put a couple drops of a flavored in my REO bottle, plenty of flavor. I could not go back to the heavily flavored vendor stuff.
For me, I think that the reason I was able to quit cigarettes was the hand movement, seeing the vapor - as you say, the ritual.
For me, I think that the reason I was able to quit cigarettes was the hand movement, seeing the vapor - as you say, the ritual.
I dropped to 0% when AR passed the law of no online sales. Didn't really feel like getting into the stockpiling thing, so now I can just DIY w/out worrying bout nic.
Once in a while a friend will send me some 3% or 1.5%.....I dilute it (not used to vendor eliquid anymore!.......too much sweetner and flavoring! You don't realize til you "get off it". ) so I don't know exactly what I'm vaping when I do that.
I just vape for the behavioral thing now, blowing vapor, the ritual of it all. I don't feel a bit different now that I'm on 0%.
....my goals were to quit smoking, and to not spend the money I saved from smoking on vaping, so other than the 1st 1-1/2 years when I did spend......... so my savings account is pretty nice now.
When, and if, I ever get there, I will welcome it and be done.
Kind of like life itself... maybe
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