Feature Request - Variable Voltage

[Geoff_NYC]

Hey guys..Just want to say I love my GG, it's my first. So thanks to Imeo, and to Rob for getting it to me so quickly. I'm excited to be a GG owner and part of this community.

As i said, I love my GG so far. But there are 2 things that i wish that it would have...and that keep me still contemplating other mods

1) Variable voltage control. It would be awesome if you could adjust the voltage somehow (spinning the button to do it would be really cool..with a locking mechanism of course). Some juices just have a sweet spot that you just can't hit with battery configurations and atty permutations - which are annoying anyway. Some other mods are popping up with this feature and it is something that the GG - being the BEST mod on the market - NEEDS to have to continue to be the best. I know one of the greatest things about the GG is that it's all mechanical - with no circuitry - but this would be an addon module..so take it or leave it, your choice. I know this issue has been touched on in other threads but i didn't notice a dedicated thread on it

2) The second one is another simple piece of circuitry that would just let you know when your battery was getting low. Say it would start glowing when you got down to 15 percent or so. maybe these two requests could even be incorporated together somehow.

I know you can do it IMEO!!

Thanks all.

 

[mwa102464]

Geoff,

You can buy a variable voltage add on over at NHaler.com so no need to really add this to the GG line now that these are out they are $22 dollars there and Drew will have them with a dial on them next week as well to regulate them at a few different voltages in stead of just the 5v he has now, if you want to spend double that you can spend $40 and go to the Buzz mod's sight the maker sells the terminator which is the same thing a screw on adjustable voltage mod to get you what ever you want in Voltage, these are new items and will get better and better and cheaper as time goes on like everything else after its out for a while in my opinion but no need to add to the GG in my opinion as well. just trying to help you out here a bit to get you what your looking for Geoff.

 

[Geoff_NYC]

Thanks mwa102464!! I'll totally check those out.

 

[Geoff_NYC]

Ok..those are cool and look like they would do they job....but aren't quite as elegant as the solution i had in mind for the gg. I was thinking maybe something like the fuse upgrade with a dial on it with perhaps an attached LED to judge battery life.

The main issue i have with the terminator and the other one were that they were yet *another* extension to the height of the mod....i dont want to be holding a pole vault in my hand.

 

[VPDownunder]

I agree, it's the 1 and only thing missing from my GGTS.

 

[mwa102464]

I can't argue it guy's it would be nice, now to get the boss to do it is another thing, hahah, I'm sure he is way ahead of us though as usual and already either drawing or building a new mod and building a prototype in his head while he is on vacation, trust me on this.! OK

 

[imeothanasis]

Guys, I saw your posts and I have to say some very simple things

1) variablem voltage:
I was the first one that invent the HV atomizers. Why? For variable voltage and make battery lasts longer, and make atomizers last longer. So why we need this feature when we have the so easy solution of atomizers? Why we need to make GG electrical? Why to make GG fail from shorts or because the circuit just failed? The solution is here guys

2) Low battery curcuit:
GG stops responding when battery stops responding. So why we need this option when we dont need it in real?

I am waiting for your response

 

[mwa102464]

Agreed...!!! Keep it totally mechanical Imeo.!!! nothing can go wrong, however if you ever come out with a new mod different then the outstanding GG we would take it.!!

 

[mwa102464]

Besides with all the different Atomizers , Reg, LR, HV, XHV and Batt combos it is not needed in my honest opinion with the GG line of PV's the way they are made all mechanical. I do have a new mod called the Tekkeon which is Variable Voltage and it is a nice mod, I run my older 3 AFS units on this, I keep em all loaded with 3 different flavors and just change the AFS for the flavor I want and it works very well. But the GGTS/AVS is the best dam Mod on the market and there is no need for variable voltage with this Mod.!!

 

[Geoff_NYC]

LOL....i knew that's what you were going to say Imeo, that's why I hinted at these answers in my original post:

1. voltage: I don't want to have to change atomizers/battery combination every time i try a a different juice or experiment with different voltages. I want the convenience of variable voltage. We don't have an endless supply of HV, LR, and regular atomizers laying around (and they aren't cheap). Changing atomizers only gives you so much flexibility. What if I built you a house and said "you don't need heat in that house...just put on a sweater when it gets cold. It's easier and you don't have to worry about the electronics, gas, or oil to heat your house." You'd think I was crazy (depending on where you lived I guess).

2) battery indicator: Why do airplanes have fuel meters? You'll know when they are out of gas when the engine stops. Why do cars have fuel indicators? The engine stops when they are out of gas. Bottom line, I like to know how much juice is left in my PV. Otherwise I'm always carrying around chargers/batteries when i don't have to.

3) System Complexity: While it is generally true that systems become less reliable the more complex they become, it is also true that you can only develop that machine so far. In short, the GG can not evolve further without taking the plunge into some small level of circuitry. In fact you have already dipped your toes in the pool with the fuse upgrade. Otherwise you've essentially reached the end of gg development.

The GG has already evolved to the point where it's not fail proof because of things O-rings / AFS, etc. It's not that simple anymore anyway. Things can go wrong.

Finally, remember what i am suggesting is an addon..not something standard. So you don't have to use it if you don't want to..just like AFS. And even if you do get it and it does fail...you can just remove it and the GG will work fine anyway.

Hope this makes sense...I'm rushing out the door. Looking forward to hear what you guys say.

 

[mwa102464]

I say no, not for the GG they are fully mechanical Mods keep em that way. If Imeo comes out with a new line of PV's then I say yes.!

 

[atavanhalen]

(Quote)2) battery indicator: Why do airplanes have fuel meters? You'll know when they are out of gas when the engine stops. Why do cars have fuel indicators? The engine stops when they are out of gas. Bottom line, I like to know how much juice is left in my PV. Otherwise I'm always carrying around chargers/batteries when i don't have to.(Quote)
The reason that cars and airplanes have fuel indicators is because you can only get gas at certain places and can not carry more gas with you. With batteries, the most it would take to get you through a full day would be anywhere from 2-6 batteries depending on how heavy of a vaper you are and I do not think it is that much of an inconvenience. Me personally, I vape at 6 volts and usually use two 123a's in my GG and I only need 4 batteries total to get me through a long day and I am using it constantly. Just my opinion on that. I do think that the variable voltage add-on is an alright idea. I am happy most of the time at 6 volts but some juices are just not right at that high of voltage and if you could just turn a knob to alleviate this problem it would be amazing. And like you said it could be an add-on just as the usb adapter which has plenty of wires.
The thing you said about thed gg not being fail proof is technically true but everything on the gg is made in a way that the things that can fail, can be fixed by me and you and almost anyone. That simplicity is what is so great about the GG.
Lovin my new ggts and am patiently waiting for my avs.

 

[Geoff_NYC]

I can't argue it guy's it would be nice, now to get the boss to do it is another thing,

QFT -quoted for truth. How quickly you change your mind MWA.


I know you have a thousand different mods..but the reason i was attracted to the gg was because it could be the one mod to rule them all....Lord of the Mods!! I don't want to buy other mods and I don't want to wish that i had. So it comes down to this...either you think variable voltage is a nice feature in any mod or you don't. Not whether it's good for this mod. For me it is a very nice convenience that i see other manufacturers providing and one that i, personally want. If someone does not want it...they don't get the addon...simple. Bottom line, I don't want to have to buy another mod ever.

 

[imeothanasis]

Geoff, I was a little buzy yesterday and I forgot to welcome you on the GG family my friend. So I welcome you now. And I am really enjoing new ideas like yours.

Ok, I will answer to your questions:

1) GG is well known about the solutions that gives to all problems: flexibility, never fails, friendly user, etc. If you have an electical device you will not be able to have any of those. And your example about house is not the proper one because changing atomizers is not that dificult as to bring a heater everytime the weather is cold. You just put the atty and works exactly as you want. And atties are not expensive, you just need 2 of every kind, so 6 atomizers are more than ok. I am sure that you have more than 6 now in your house!

As for the indicator: I am sure again that you carry at least one pair of batteries with you when you are out. So even if you had an indicator inside GG you would still carry those spare batteries, am I right buddy? Indicator is totally useless to my opinion because in both situations (have it or not have it on the GG) you will do exactly the same move when battery stops responding: You will change batteries

Fuse is not electrical feature my friend Geo! Its electrical style but still mechanical feature. The reason is that you can change a spring just with your hands and of course it still remains a friendly user feature. Dont forget that GG is made in a way to work without fuse too and not like electrical devices that dont respond when a fuse gets burned!!

GG is still fail proof even if it has fuse and o-rings inside it. When we say fail proof we mean that GG will not fail in a way that you cant repair it in 1 min. But you still can do it because you can change those simple things in 1 min and without tools too! (very important). Also please remember that GG will work and will never double cross you even without o-rings too or without fuse. You just put off the AVS and it still works! But to proove you that GG will work without o-rings too, I will tell you to put off all o-rings at once from GG. It will still work! It will not work exactly as you want but GG will never let you without your vaping pleassure

ps...... GG is not a simple device Geo my good friend. It look like this but its maybe the most compex device out there with really big thoughts on it. It works in every condition and in every situation. And remember that maybe you will never need me friend (exept you receive a faulty item)

 

[aj83]

I like the fact the gg is mechanical. I also own a buzz the VV is a great feature,but if your buzz fails you gotta send it out for repair. Where my GGTS chances are I can fix it myself. There is always gonna be pros and cons with every PV, but that is a good excuse to buy more than one

 

[Geoff_NYC]

Thanks for welcoming me Imeo...Please remember i love this device and I have been using it nonstop since i got it!

But, for some reason you guys keep missing my point. What i am suggesting is that this would be something like a replacement end cap. Like the AFS...if it fails you just take it off and use the original. Maybe it's impossible to create a solution as simple as i imagine and that's what i'm missing. But I imagine it just being an endcap with something like the variable draw ring to adjust voltage. Or maybe another little plastic circle inside (very similar to the plastic one that's already there that would adjust voltage. Not sure how to do it..but im a lawyer not an engineer..lol.

But for those people who don't like the concept, they just wouldn't buy the upgrade and if it failed you just use the original endcap.

Remember, i was well aware of these other devices that have this feature before i bought the GG...in fact they are less expensive than the GG and I still bought the GG....so it wasn't that important to me. But like i said i want GG to have the option for everything...i want 1 perfect PV. And i don't think changing atomizers for each juice is the perfect answer

Maybe you guys don't see the value of variable voltage because you use the AFS all of the time and are set in your ways. I'm still experimenting..and i love to tweak things. That's what drew me to the GG in the first place.

So i was looking at radioshack website and saw this RadioShack.com It automatically shuts down if the circuit overheats..so maybe it could even replace the fuse entirely.

Anyway...love my GG and thanks for everything!

 

[Geoff_NYC]

I like the fact the gg is mechanical. I also own a buzz the VV is a great feature,but if your buzz fails you gotta send it out for repair. Where my GGTS chances are I can fix it myself. There is always gonna be pros and cons with every PV, but that is a good excuse to buy more than one

See you love the VV and admit it's a great feature. But I am not looking for an excuse to buy another one! Why wouldn't you want the option for the GG to have another great optional feature?

If it fails..just disconnect the feature.

 

[imeothanasis]

Guys, I agree with you but the solution exists. You just want to have it in a different way, thats all. I think that I have found everything on e-cigs and in the best possible way and nothing more can be done. Maybe I am wrong that nothing more can be done but thats my thoughts now. Changing atomizers is the easiest-cheapest way to have the adjustable voltage without risking a GG failure. But ok, I will think about it even if I think its useless to my opinion.

I try to make useful things like locking button, all batteries option, vent holes, fuse, light cig, best contuctivity, easy clean connector, friendly user cig, all atomizers in 1 connector, collector tank to avoid leakage, adjustable draw, lock liquid option, AVS, and the adjustable voltage by changing atomizers. I have done already what you ask but just in a different way.

But I will have it that in mind because you asked for it

 

[booker]

I say variable voltage upgrade would be a sweet thing. And don't get started with "no electical" MWA on GG coz there's USB passthrough you connect to a mains power supply And why you want people to go buy other PVs to get that feature? I don't want anything else for today, GG is the best for me

If you'd have the potentiometer you can do something you can't do with atomisers - you can vape at whatever voltage you want.

This lets the vaper to find his so called "sweet spot" - individually and not being limited by any version of the atomiser.

There's a real hype over e-cigs with variable voltage today - not having it these days (even as an upgrade) is a loss.

We can put a list of people interested in GG VV mod. What you say?

1. Geoff_NYC
2. VPDownunder
3. booker

 

[marbass]

I say variable voltage upgrade would be a sweet thing. And don't get started with "no electical" MWA on GG coz there's USB passthrough you connect to a mains power supply And why you want people to go buy other PVs to get that feature? I don't want anything else for today, GG is the best for me

If you'd have the potentiometer you can do something you can't do with atomisers - you can vape at whatever voltage you want.

This lets the vaper to find his so called "sweet spot" - individually and not being limited by any version of the atomiser.

There's a real hype over e-cigs with variable voltage today - not having it these days (even as an upgrade) is a loss.

We can put a list of people interested in GG VV mod. What you say?

1. Geoff_NYC
2. VPDownunder
3. booker

Count me in !