Fell In Love With a Dripper Then My Mod Crapped Out. Need Recommendations!!

[SZBeauty]

I've spent a lot of time on these forums and most of the time, I can only understand about 50% of a post. I am the using eleaf istick power mod that goes up to 80w and aspire cleito tank 120 / standard coils. (Hate the whole thing for a number of reasons) I don't even know if this is a good setup or a bad one... it was the one recommended by the vape shop about a year ago. On a routine trip to purchase new liquids, I got to try a dripper and WOW, didn't even know that much flavor was possible.

I went home, did some research and realize now that the dripping lifestyle would never work for me — too much maintenance, I'm not very handy and the learning curve is too steep. However, my mod is done, I'm throwing out the entire setup and want to start fresh.

TLDR; Trying to find a mod/tank setup that gets as close to the flavor from a dripper that I can possibly get.

I chain vape constantly and everywhere, so, won't leak, good battery life and most importantly, MAX flavor. My current setup leaks like crazy, can't stand it. Please, I need you guys' help, I am LOST. And I'd ask the people at the vape shop, but of course they'll only recommend what they sell. I've never bought online so some websites you recommend would be appreciated too.

+1 Question: My battery/mod? only goes to 80w and someone said that to me like it was a bad thing. But I've never even gone past like... 50 because it gets a burnt taste. How high can a regular sub ohm tank go and what's the benefit at vaping higher? Also, does this apply to the battery/mod?, tank, coils, or what?

Note: The battery/mod? is there because I THINK they're the same thing, but I'm not sure

 

[QcVaper]

Not sure what you want here for setup suggestions...... Mtl, dtl (drippers are dtl and sub 0hm mostly)
IF you want a sub 0hm device i highly advise to stay away from any smok tanks and i speak by experiences but i've never been satisfied. For MAX flavor you'll need either a dripper or an rta (rebuildable tank atomiser) sub 0hm tanks go as far as the coil is rated but a .5 0hm coil for example (like one i'm using atm) is good from 20 to 60 watts dosen't mean you should use it at 60 watts but it can be done. Burnt taste,leakage,battery life etc is all subjective no one gets the same results as no one uses their stuff the same way, so you're gonna have to be a bit more specific since any sub 0hm setup should give more than enough flavor but again to get the most flavor definetely nothing better than going DIY.

For something simple that i quite liked (and my first sub 0hm setup) i had : Aspire nx75, it's an external battery mod which means you're gonna have to research battery safety but overall it's pretty simple. For a tank well...... Sky is the limit pretty much since they all pretty much give enough flavor.

NB: the amount of flavor you get from a coil or atomiser depends on alot of factors, like the juice you're using coil resistance airflow wattage etc.

 

[bombastinator]

I think what you are looking for is a good sub ohm cartridge system. You may want to run high watts on it so I'd suggest going with a two battery mod. The best two battery mods use the DNA brand chip but they cost a lot. You won't need a monster 200amp mod or anything. 75w should should be fine if it's a dual battery. As to the tank, I have little experience in this area being an rda(dripper) user myself.

Someone should have something useful to say on it though. I do think what you want is possible to get though. I wish you luck!

 

[bombastinator]

Battery and mod are very close to the same thing. The mod is the bit with the fire button and the screen on it. It's got the actual battery inside it which may or may not be removable. I am a strong supporter of removable batteries because it quintuples the life of the mod. Micro USB2 charge ports suck. A battery charger and swappable batteries is a much more robust and pleasant way to go imho. YMMV though. You may prefer the simplicity of a mod with a built in battery like you had previously.

 

[bombastinator]

Regarding watts nobody but cloud chasers go over about 40 watts generally. There ARE atomizers that can use over a hundred watts but they're cloud chaser stuff. Frequently with 3 to7 coils in them the cartridge one have coils the size of your thumb joint. What they may be referring to is the dual battery thing. A single battery cant put out the sheer juice necessary to run a high watt device well. There are lots of single battery mods that claim high watts, but their batteries can't keep up. One very popular though not especially rugged mod is an alien 220. Can it do 220 watts? Not really. But because it has two batteries it's great at 40

 

[QcVaper]

Regarding watts nobody but cloud chasers go over about 40 watts generally. There ARE atomizers that can use over a hundred watts but they're cloud chaser stuff. Frequently with 3 to7 coils in them the cartridge one have coils the size of your thumb joint. What they may be referring to is the dual battery thing. A single battery cant put out the sheer juice necessary to run a high watt device well. There are lots of single battery mods that claim high watts, but their batteries can't keep up. One very popular though not especially rugged mod is an alien 220. Can it do 220 watts? Not really. But because it has two batteries it's great at 40

The alien kit is called the alien 220 because it does 220 watts lolz also i'm no cloud chaser and pretty much always go above 40 watts (40-60 would be my prefered range) i'm a flavor chaser but i also like a warmer vape. Also i doubt she needs a dual battery mod if she hasen't really done any dtl yet or is a beginner start slow and move up would be my suggestions (then again i'll wait until the OP answers a bit before making any recommendations since we have no clue as to her "level" in vape gear and knowledge)

 

[Tonee N]

It might do 220w but you first would need 2-18650s that are capable of getting you to 220w.

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[SZBeauty]

So sorry for not being clear enough! Had no idea the responses would come this fast

- Thanks for clarification on battery/mod!

The setup I have isnt great for dtl, but it is how I'd prefer to vape. So a setup that allows for smooth dtl but I'm not looking for a dripper or anything I have to build. I'm nowhere near being able to do that. I want to upgrade my setup to a better (well the best) sub ohm mod/tank out right now. No leakage, great battery, amazing flavor. Not a beginners setup though because I feel like that's what I have now.

Basically, a high quality setup that's a step right below a dripper/ rebuildable.

Not quite sure I understood if I should be looking for single or dual battery?

 

[QcVaper]

So sorry for not being clear enough! Had no idea the responses would come this fast

- Thanks for clarification on battery/mod!

The setup I have isnt great for dtl, but it is how I'd prefer to vape. So a setup that allows for smooth dtl but I'm not looking for a dripper or anything I have to build. I'm nowhere near being able to do that. I want to upgrade my setup to a better (well the best) sub ohm mod/tank out right now. No leakage, great battery, amazing flavor. Not a beginners setup though because I feel like that's what I have now.

Basically, a high quality setup that's a step right below a dripper/ rebuildable.

Not quite sure I understood if I should be looking for single or dual battery?

Well it still depends on what you're searching for (ie cloud or flavor) you can easily go with a single battery mod (i hate integrated batteries too tbh) i've used the nx75 from aspire for over a month and i liked it quite alot. It's well built tiny goes up to 75 watts has all the bells and whistles you'd need or want except if you're vaping all the time at higher watts then battery life could go to hell but i've never had issues at like 40-50 watts (having backups is never a bad thing anyway).

Also there's no "best" setup as that's all subjective, for one i'd say to stay off tanks from smok (opinions will ofc differ) their customer support is horrid, shady quality control etc. Their mods though is kinda 50/50 some like them some don't. All i'll say about building is that it looks more intimidating then it is in reality, it's much easier than it seems it just takes a bit of reading and knowledge to not blow a mod in your face .

For better battery life i'd suggest a dual battery mod (depending how long you plan on going without charging ofc)
For example i use a wismec predator 228 which is a dual battery mod, i vape it around 30-50 watts on a rba base (rebuildable atomiser) and i go easily 2 days without charging. One thing to keep in mind though is that using external batteries means using an external charger (safer and plain simply better).If you really want to dtl also, i'd suggest something like the Uwell crown III which has alot of positive reviews on it or their valyrian tank, both use factory coils which means no building and i hear they're the "kings" of flavor. I myself use a smok tank but with an optional rebuildable base mostly because like i said their tanks are meh (and because i've got nothing better atm for the liquids i'm using). Overall i'm sure tonee will have a different suggestion to make but that's what i'd go with :
mods
Aspire nx75
Wismec predator 228
Tank wise though i've got nothing better than Uwell to suggest since the only other sub 0hm tank i have is kinda meh too on their coils but not quality issues mostly meh flavors and vapor imo.

 

[bombastinator]

The alien kit is called the alien 220 because it does 220 watts lolz also i'm no cloud chaser and pretty much always go above 40 watts (40-60 would be my prefered range) i'm a flavor chaser but i also like a warmer vape. Also i doubt she needs a dual battery mod if she hasen't really done any dtl yet or is a beginner start slow and move up would be my suggestions (then again i'll wait until the OP answers a bit before making any recommendations since we have no clue as to her "level" in vape gear and knowledge)

Feeling the need to defend myself here a bit:

Does it do 220? Yes. In Theory. I've got single battery mods that list as doing 75w. Do they? Not accurately or well. Do you use the 220watts of the mod? Obviously not. This is the point I was trying to make. The alien does 40w better than a single battery mod because it isn't one. Both claim to do 60w but the alien can really do it whereas a single battery mod can't. As for mtl vs DL the OP said they want RDA performance. There are no mtl RDAs. Therefore DL is a reasonable assumption. Your point about use of the term "nobody" is accurate and well taken though.

 

[Tonee N]

Use a single coil RDA with a 510 adapter 510 drip tip at 40w.

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[bombastinator]

So sorry for not being clear enough! Had no idea the responses would come this fast

- Thanks for clarification on battery/mod!

The setup I have isnt great for dtl, but it is how I'd prefer to vape. So a setup that allows for smooth dtl but I'm not looking for a dripper or anything I have to build. I'm nowhere near being able to do that. I want to upgrade my setup to a better (well the best) sub ohm mod/tank out right now. No leakage, great battery, amazing flavor. Not a beginners setup though because I feel like that's what I have now.

Basically, a high quality setup that's a step right below a dripper/ rebuildable.

Not quite sure I understood if I should be looking for single or dual battery?

The functional maximum of a single battery mod is in the 30w range regardless of its claimed wattage. You seem to be on the edge of that so a two battery mod will likely work better for you because it is more flexible. I was trying to explain the whole wattage inflation thing going on in the industry at the moment. If you ACTUALLY want to vape at 100+ watts you need a 3 battery mod. This is unlikely though.

 

[Eskie]

The functional maximum of a single battery mod is in the 30w range regardless of its claimed wattage......

I would have to respectfully disagree. I have a number of single battery mods I use at 40-50W without a headache. At worst I put in a fresh battery later in the day in necessary.

To the OP, I do agree a dual battery mod is preferable for runtimes, especially if will be your only mod (which I do not recommend, and am a believer in having backups for my backups). Mods to look at range from the Smoant Battlestar or Charon TC, Voopoo Drag, to a Funky 160 and more. Check out the mods forum here for more info on specific mods. As for tanks, you're unlikely to reproduce a DL RDA experience with a tank using factory coils. However, if that's your goal and don't want the headache of dripping but want lots of cloud and air look at the Smok tanks such as the Big Baby Beast. Coils perform quite well once properly primed and broken in and offer plenty of cloud along with good flavor.

 

[bombastinator]

I would have to respectfully disagree. I have a number of single battery mods I use at 40-50W without a headache. At worst I put in a fresh battery later in the day in necessary.

To the OP, I do agree a dual battery mod is preferable for runtimes, especially if will be your only mod (which I do not recommend, and am a believer in having backups for my backups). Mods to look at range from the Smoant Battlestar or Charon TC, Voopoo Drag, to a Funky 160 and more. Check out the mods forum here for more info on specific mods. As for tanks, you're unlikely to reproduce a DL RDA experience with a tank using factory coils. However, if that's your goal and don't want the headache of dripping but want lots of cloud and air look at the Smok tanks such as the Big Baby Beast. Coils perform quite well once properly primed and broken in and offer plenty of cloud along with good flavor.

I'll accept that. Call it 30-40 then. Whether it's actually pulling a full 50w when it says it does may threaten to stretch the laws of thermodynamics though. You'd need a really really high drain battery. The problem is not the mod's electronics, it's the ability of the battery to produce the amount of electricity required.

 

[Eskie]

I'll accept that. Call it 30-40 then. Whether it's actually pulling a full 50w when it says it does may threaten to stretch the laws of thermodynamics though. You'd need a really really high drain battery. The problem is not the mod's electronics, it's the ability of the battery to produce the amount of electricity required.

On a regulated mod, a 20A battery is good for 60W and still be within its CDR. You can go even higher on a regulated mod to 70-80W with the same battery, although it will get warm and that use will shorten the lifespan of the battery.

I do not recommend higher than 60W with a 20A battery, but remember a regulated mod's power draw is not calculated with Ohms law. Instead it's W/V + 10% for board efficiency=A drawn. What the board delivers to the atty is different than what it draws from the battery to achieve that.

 

[bombastinator]

On a regulated mod, a 20A battery is good for 60W and still be within its CDR. You can go even higher on a regulated mod to 70-80W with the same battery, although it will get warm and that use will shorten the lifespan of the battery.

I do not recommend higher than 60W with a 20A battery, but remember a regulated mod's power draw is not calculated with Ohms law. Instead it's W/V + 10% for board efficiency=A drawn. What the board delivers to the atty is different than what it draws from the battery to achieve that.

Regardless of the math I see wattage back downs above 30w on both my single battery mods a wismec pressa, and an eleaf aster. Perhaps my sample size is too low.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I'm a fan of the Eleaf Pico series. The price-performance ratio is great and this two battery model is on sale.

Eleaf Pico Dual Kit | Starter Kits | VaporBeast

That's a kit that includes a good-but-not-great Melo III tank.

A very nice tank for flavor and Vapor is the Espresso Estoc. It is also a great price-performer and uses ceramic coils. Fantastic flavor but it tops out at about 40 Watts.

It's available at the same site linked above for around $20.

I'm assuming you have 18650 batteries and a good charger.

 

[stols001]

I have heard some of those ceramic coils do give great flavor. I don't think any tank is really the same as a dripper, but you can get closer to that experience with some of the sub0hm setups. I don't have much experience with DL stuff, other than the Cleto 120 which I liked, I just don't enjoy DL vaping. I can't really speak much to its flavor production, but it doesn't leak (sounds like this was one of your issues) and it has great coil life, which is also a plus. I do think there are probably better sub0hm tanks for flavor, but you're getting some good recommendations.

As far as a mod, many people who use reusable rather than internal batteries don't turn back. I have one internal battery setup to carry around with me in case of emergency, otherwise my mods are two battery mods. I like the size and form factor in my hand and I'm clumsy so less likely to drop something heavy.... I have a Steampunk Nano 120 which I love, though it does have some minor issues like any mod. I vape very low wattages and just enjoy extraordinary battery life, which is quite fine with me. I do think you can vape mods with lower capacity as far as wattage range, but you will then sacrifice battery life. Even on a regulated mod, as some have said, if you really push the mod you can run into batteries overheating, but that doesn't sound like it will be the case for you. I'd second Eskie's suggestion of checking out some threads in the mod section to see what folks are liking and disliking about the setup.

It sounds to me like your biggest issue is leaking right now, so I'd pay particular attention to subohm setups that are reputed to be easygoing to run.

Best of luck! Also, never say never on a dripper... You just never know where vaping is going to take you, but I think you can certainly find a better setup for you with drop in coils that will be less hassle-filled. Good luck!

Anna

 

[SZBeauty]

Well it still depends on what you're searching for (ie cloud or flavor) you can easily go with a single battery mod (i hate integrated batteries too tbh) i've used the nx75 from aspire for over a month and i liked it quite alot. It's well built tiny goes up to 75 watts has all the bells and whistles you'd need or want except if you're vaping all the time at higher watts then battery life could go to hell but i've never had issues at like 40-50 watts (having backups is never a bad thing anyway).

Also there's no "best" setup as that's all subjective, for one i'd say to stay off tanks from smok (opinions will ofc differ) their customer support is horrid, shady quality control etc. Their mods though is kinda 50/50 some like them some don't. All i'll say about building is that it looks more intimidating then it is in reality, it's much easier than it seems it just takes a bit of reading and knowledge to not blow a mod in your face .

For better battery life i'd suggest a dual battery mod (depending how long you plan on going without charging ofc)
For example i use a wismec predator 228 which is a dual battery mod, i vape it around 30-50 watts on a rba base (rebuildable atomiser) and i go easily 2 days without charging. One thing to keep in mind though is that using external batteries means using an external charger (safer and plain simply better).If you really want to dtl also, i'd suggest something like the Uwell crown III which has alot of positive reviews on it or their valyrian tank, both use factory coils which means no building and i hear they're the "kings" of flavor. I myself use a smok tank but with an optional rebuildable base mostly because like i said their tanks are meh (and because i've got nothing better atm for the liquids i'm using). Overall i'm sure tonee will have a different suggestion to make but that's what i'd go with :
mods
Aspire nx75
Wismec predator 228
Tank wise though i've got nothing better than Uwell to suggest since the only other sub 0hm tank i have is kinda meh too on their coils but not quality issues mostly meh flavors and vapor imo.

The Wismec predator 228 is BEAUTIFUL and probably right up the alley of what I am looking for. I did watch some youtube videos and saw an overwhelming number of bad experiences in the comments from users who owned one, though. So, I am a bit hesitant to pull the trigger on that one just yet. What else is up there with the Wismec — beautiful design, dual battery, powerful, & with a lot of thought put into the design?

 

[SZBeauty]

I have heard some of those ceramic coils do give great flavor. I don't think any tank is really the same as a dripper, but you can get closer to that experience with some of the sub0hm setups. I don't have much experience with DL stuff, other than the Cleto 120 which I liked, I just don't enjoy DL vaping. I can't really speak much to its flavor production, but it doesn't leak (sounds like this was one of your issues) and it has great coil life, which is also a plus. I do think there are probably better sub0hm tanks for flavor, but you're getting some good recommendations.

As far as a mod, many people who use reusable rather than internal batteries don't turn back. I have one internal battery setup to carry around with me in case of emergency, otherwise my mods are two battery mods. I like the size and form factor in my hand and I'm clumsy so less likely to drop something heavy.... I have a Steampunk Nano 120 which I love, though it does have some minor issues like any mod. I vape very low wattages and just enjoy extraordinary battery life, which is quite fine with me. I do think you can vape mods with lower capacity as far as wattage range, but you will then sacrifice battery life. Even on a regulated mod, as some have said, if you really push the mod you can run into batteries overheating, but that doesn't sound like it will be the case for you. I'd second Eskie's suggestion of checking out some threads in the mod section to see what folks are liking and disliking about the setup.

It sounds to me like your biggest issue is leaking right now, so I'd pay particular attention to subohm setups that are reputed to be easygoing to run.

Best of luck! Also, never say never on a dripper... You just never know where vaping is going to take you, but I think you can certainly find a better setup for you with drop in coils that will be less hassle-filled. Good luck!

Anna

Leaking, can't handle temperatures above 40-48 very well, crappy design. Plus, you guys definitely convinced me not to go internal battery again.