Few questions from a new DIY'er

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I know its a lot to look at (over 50 different flavors) but here is my choices I went with :) ! hopefully its a good enough and big enough start base to give me lots of options to mess around with ! if you notice I missed anything let me know and thanks for all the help so far guys means a lot ! I'm super excited to start !
 

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I know its a lot to look at (over 50 different flavors) but here is my choices I went with :) ! hopefully its a good enough and big enough start base to give me lots of options to mess around with ! if you notice I missed anything let me know and thanks for all the help so far guys means a lot ! I'm super excited to start !
You are really going to have fun with that list! A word of warning about FA Condensed Milk: it's unbelievably strong, and even fractions of a percentage point can overrun your mix with a strong milk flavor, like eating powdered milk with a spoon. The best thing to do with it is make a 10% solution in PG, then use that as your flavoring (and keep it under 1% of the diluted flavor in your mix). FA Honey is very potent also, so don't let it get away from you. Keep it low!

Also, you can find lots of good FA recipes from users Shaner and Vurecipesforll over at ELR. I can't give you the URL here, but if you search for "e-liquid recipes" you're sure to find it.
 

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Suggestion: find your recipes first and then buy flavorings to match when starting out. It's not like baking a cake when trying to formulate complex eliquids and going from a proven recipe, then tweaking it to taste will save frustration and money.

Missing from your list is a notebook. Take notes. Write everything down.

I do mixing on a tray so if there is a spill the edge of the tray will keep it contained. Just makes it easier.

Bull City also carries sc (super concentrates) which have no pg. Real Flavors, NN and Medicine Flower also have no pg flavorings. NN has vg based additives. They aren't discussed much but might be worth looking into at some point. I can't use FW either and my intolerance to pg has increased with time.

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flavor west irritates my throat unfortunately, I'm going with FA TFA and capella.... opinions on what flavors from each are really good? like what is good for fruits...which has better deserts...ect ect ? :)
Cappellas blueberry jam is great. At 8%. I only use needles to measure mine out. An I do it while sitting on the bed. I wish I had not bought all the flavors I did when starting out they are just sitting here. It is such a waste. Sticker labels work good to write what is in each bottle an how much so you can do it against. But also keep a note pad.good luck
 

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I know its a lot to look at (over 50 different flavors) but here is my choices I went with :) ! hopefully its a good enough and big enough start base to give me lots of options to mess around with ! if you notice I missed anything let me know and thanks for all the help so far guys means a lot ! I'm super excited to start !
I would not buy all that. I spent 100$ on flavors just to try each once. Get cappellas blueberry jam an try it first. An also make 5 ml tester bottles so you don't waste your nicotine
 

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Suggestion: find your recipes first and then buy flavorings to match when starting out.

^^^^ This.

Don't just order random flavors or ones others suggested. Start with some recipes that sound good to you and order the flavors to make those recipes. As you go along you will find what flavors work for you and what general ones you want to stay away from. This will save you a lot of money from buying flavors that you will never use. I have well over a hundred flavors but maybe only 20-40 that really get used.
 

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As you test your flavors in small batches, try the 100 drop test. 100 drops is 5ml and 1 drop is 1% of the total mix. It's a good way to determine the best percentage without wasting a lot of your supplies. You can create several 5ml batches in increasing flavor percentages to taste test and quickly determine where your sweet spot is for flavor. 5ml is more than enough to fill the average tank and a tankful is a good test of whether you like or hate a recipe mix.

The EjuiceMeUp calculator (and most others) supports recipes in the drop format.

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I'm another one who highly recommends finding recipes first, and then ordering the flavorings to make them. Too many people brand new to DIY do it backwards, and then they post a large list of flavorings...and ask, "What can I make with these?" Many times they have lots of primary or main flavorings, but don't have the necessary blender or secondary flavorings, nor any sweeteners, let alone other additives some recipes require. In the end, they're stuck with lots of flavorings they might not ever use, yet are missing many they'll need.

If your location shown is correct (South Korea)...you'll also be paying a bunch of S/H for those flavorings, too. That's even more wasted $$ you could've spent later, once you found out which flavorings you'll use the most of.
 

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I'm another one who highly recommends finding recipes first, and then ordering the flavorings to make them. Too many people brand new to DIY do it backwards, and then they post a large list of flavorings...and ask, "What can I make with these?" Many times they have lots of primary or main flavorings, but don't have the necessary blender or secondary flavorings, nor any sweeteners, let alone other additives some recipes require. In the end, they're stuck with lots of flavorings they might not ever use, yet are missing many they'll need.

If your location shown is correct (South Korea)...you'll also be paying a bunch of S/H for those flavorings, too. That's even more wasted $$ you could've spent later, once you found out which flavorings you'll use the most of.

I second that. JC always has excellent advice. I'm a perfect example of buying way too many flavorings, because they all sounded so good. Over $50 wasted on flavors I won't use because there's only 5 recipes out of over 30 I tried that I like.


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I know its a lot to look at (over 50 different flavors) but here is my choices I went with :) ! hopefully its a good enough and big enough start base to give me lots of options to mess around with ! if you notice I missed anything let me know and thanks for all the help so far guys means a lot ! I'm super excited to start !
Recipes first, flavors second. Which flavors and where to get them? Here lies the problem/challenge.
Rule of thumb: Everyone's taste is different, meaning A's versions of x may taste different to B's version of x.
Which flavors: The one's most people purchase (see ELR)
Where to get them: Since you lack preferences of blender and taste's of flavors, might want to buy the least amount of each flavor which is cost effective. I like WL 's 8 ml. sizes/pricing.
 

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...want to try many many different random mixes ( going to be the wife and I's new hobby)...
45 Different flavors (all 10mls)
It's true that many people buy more flavorings than they need, but if you and the wife are excited to become hobby mixers, and you have local friends that do mixing as well, I don't think your approach is a bad one. There's a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem when you're first getting started, where it's hard to know which recipes you'll like until you try them, but you can't try them without ingredients. If you buy ingredients for a recipe that sounds good but disagrees with you, again you're stuck with things you may not need; it's always a risk. There's no foolproof approach, so I think your plan of amassing a moderate variety of high-quality flavorings, in small bottles to start with, is a sound one.

Especially if you can't quickly get new flavorings in South Korea! Sometimes I look over my flavors and regret a few purchases, but the sum of those rare occasions doesn't compare to the repeated frustration I've felt when missing key ingredients for something I wanted to mix. And if I had to wait for flavors the way I wait on stuff from Fasttech...well, I'm glad I don't. I'm a hobby mixer too.

No need to let unmixed food flavorings go to waste. Try them in drinks and desserts. And maybe you can share, borrow and trade with your local mixer friends.
 
It's true that many people buy more flavorings than they need, but if you and the wife are excited to become hobby mixers, and you have local friends that do mixing as well, I don't think your approach is a bad one. There's a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem when you're first getting started, where it's hard to know which recipes you'll like until you try them, but you can't try them without ingredients. If you buy ingredients for a recipe that sounds good but disagrees with you, again you're stuck with things you may not need; it's always a risk. There's no foolproof approach, so I think your plan of amassing a moderate variety of high-quality flavorings, in small bottles to start with, is a sound one.

Especially if you can't quickly get new flavorings in South Korea! Sometimes I look over my flavors and regret a few purchases, but the sum of those rare occasions doesn't compare to the repeated frustration I've felt when missing key ingredients for something I wanted to mix. And if I had to wait for flavors the way I wait on stuff from Fasttech...well, I'm glad I don't. I'm a hobby mixer too.

No need to let unmixed food flavorings go to waste. Try them in drinks and desserts. And maybe you can share, borrow and trade with your local mixer friends.

Huge huuuuge thank you again for all the responses, and to answer everyone's question , I am no longer in South Korea. I was stationed there when I made this account and haven't updated it yet. Currently in WA so shipping times aren't an issue. I'm very very very picky when it comes too finding an all day vape for me. Very. So picking 2 3 or even 5-6 recipies has a high chance of resulting it me not liking any and reordering flavors anyway..... plus I ordered over 55 different flavors....(around 650mls of concentrate) and it was 110$ after discount code with free shipping. Which is not bad at ALL imo.... even if half just sit around because I'm not using much I won't feel it to much of a waste. I'd much rather try all 60 flavors and find that I only like 25 or 30 of them then order large amounts of those.... then try like 7 recipies realize I don't like any. And we are close with a few of the more popular juicers so worse case they get some free flavorings thrown their way and I get some of their juice that I know I like haha. After placing the order I looked up FA flavor recipies and got to about the 5th or 6th and every one I was like "boom already ordered all those" again it's going to definatly be a big hobby for both the wife and I (we have been around and helping one of the local juicers for a year and love it) so doing this to save money isn't the first or even top 3 of reasons we are getting into it. So I'm excited and pretty happy about my choice to get so many flavor choices.
 

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Huge huuuuge thank you again for all the responses, and to answer everyone's question , I am no longer in South Korea. I was stationed there when I made this account and haven't updated it yet. Currently in WA so shipping times aren't an issue. I'm very very very picky when it comes too finding an all day vape for me. Very. So picking 2 3 or even 5-6 recipies has a high chance of resulting it me not liking any and reordering flavors anyway..... plus I ordered over 55 different flavors....(around 650mls of concentrate) and it was 110$ after discount code with free shipping. Which is not bad at ALL imo.... even if half just sit around because I'm not using much I won't feel it to much of a waste. I'd much rather try all 60 flavors and find that I only like 25 or 30 of them then order large amounts of those.... then try like 7 recipies realize I don't like any. And we are close with a few of the more popular juicers so worse case they get some free flavorings thrown their way and I get some of their juice that I know I like haha. After placing the order I looked up FA flavor recipies and got to about the 5th or 6th and every one I was like "boom already ordered all those" again it's going to definatly be a big hobby for both the wife and I (we have been around and helping one of the local juicers for a year and love it) so doing this to save money isn't the first or even top 3 of reasons we are getting into it. So I'm excited and pretty happy about my choice to get so many flavor choices.
try cappellas blue berry jam at 8% I am very picky. I have 100$ worth of flavoring I don't like. It is a pleaser. I have to just quit trying anything new as I never like anything
 

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I think ecf has a trade forum for flavorings. It's not used much and I always wondered why.

Yes they do, and it's called the DIY Swaps forum. It's for anything DIY related. I've traded flavorings and some new dropper bottles so far with @salemgold, @b.m., @Capt.shay, and @Fozzy71, if I didn't forget anyone. That's also where @LeeLee26 saw me mention how great the CAP Blueberry Jam is I think, or it was on another forum discussion.

More people ought to give it a try with some of those flavorings they have hanging around that they don't like. As long as they're not old yet...go for it!
 

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Yes they do, and it's called the DIY Swaps forum. It's for anything DIY related. I've traded flavorings and some new dropper bottles so far with @salemgold, @b.m., @Capt.shay, and @Fozzy71, if I didn't forget anyone. That's also where @LeeLee26 saw me mention how great the CAP Blueberry Jam is I think, or it was on another forum discussion.

More people ought to give it a try with some of those flavorings they have hanging around that they don't like. As long as they're not old yet...go for it!

Have you already discussed what is considered old with respect to flavorings? I'm assuming anything under 1 year old is still fresh. I'm trying to decide if I want to swap my flavors, PIF them or just keep them


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