First Data Merchant services Discontinuing online vaporizer sales

[Iken]

Sorry my good sir, ya need to look deeper. #While you are busy trying to make ends meet understaffed ect... their is a whole world going on around you and perhaps passing you by. Where you aware of BT putting a move on RTS Vapes? Visa and MC might be publicly shared but... who is driving that ball?

I was recently offered (which I have) a smart phone CC reader from my processor. I am one of the few in Canada that processes CC. Why? I fly under the radar. I have been offered on numerous occasions to augment my SEO etc... sorry folks I like flying under the radar.

One of the things you may not of thought of (I don;t know) is the volume of business you declared on your application to your processor. You are doing large volumes and they investigated you. E Cigs right now are a volatile subject, with all processors, where do we go from here? God only knows!

I was and always will be an ally. You know where to reach me!

I may be very busy striving for Ikenvape, though that does not mean that I am oblivious of the world Switcher.
Big tobacco had nothing to do with what happened to RTS Vapes. Think about it, they were running a nicotine lab unsupervised, and unlicensed. Nicotine is a controlled substance. Running a lab of poisonous materials and then distributing without a license and also under the given circumstances is a crime. Especially when they lied to the Big guys (federal agents). This was not Big tobacco man. I think paranoid conspiracy is coming into play and people want someone else to blame other than what is actually going on.

 

[doots]

We ♥ you too Doots!
No worries though, First Data did state that any face to face transaction are and always will be supported. I don't believe physical stores will be brought down. Just more or less forced to apply for different licensing such as an importers license, license to distribute, etc.
Most of our customers such as yourself are from Texas I'm still tethered to PA for my daughter but that is always subject to change as she is almost of the age to choose where she desires to live. If we can hold on for a couple more years..You never know.

Love You all too! Wish youd move to Austin open a store,. Huge biz opps here for ecigs..

 

[BuGlen]

I may be very busy striving for Ikenvape, though that does not mean that I am oblivious of the world Switcher.
Big tobacco had nothing to do with what happened to RTS Vapes. Think about it, they were running a nicotine lab unsupervised, and unlicensed. Nicotine is a controlled substance. Running a lab of poisonous materials and then distributing without a license and also under the given circumstances is a crime. Especially when they lied to the Big guys (federal agents). This was not Big Tobacco man. I think paranoid conspiracy is coming into play and people want someone else to blame other than what is actually going on.

There is also conjecture from a few people that RTS purchases it's nic from China, just like everyone else, and has been lying about the U.S. based labs. In either case, whether they do have a lab or they are just claiming it falsely, it's going to draw the eye of the feds.

 

[Iken]

There is also conjecture from a few people that RTS purchases it's nic from China, just like everyone else, and has been lying about the U.S. based labs. In either case, whether they do have a lab or they are just claiming it falsely, it's going to draw the eye of the feds.

Absolutely correct. I love our local vendors and still frequent many shops on a weekly basis cautiously. Here's an interesting article to read. Made in the USA E-Liquid - Well, Sort Of ... | E-Cig Express Blog

 

[5cardstud]

Absolutely correct. I love our local vendors and still frequent many shops on a weekly basis cautiously. Here's an interesting article to read. Made in the USA E-Liquid - Well, Sort Of ... | E-Cig Express Blog

I pretty much thought that myself. I can not vape VG period. It gives me headaches and I mean terrible headaches. Besides as the article says "It tastes like vaping frenchfry oil." It doesn't take much VG to make juice taste terrible to me. Oh and a great big head ache. What surprises me is with all the tobacco we have growing here is that the nic comes from China. I'll bet if they searched farther they would find the nic from China was grown in the USA and sent there. I'm not sure about that but I have a hunch it is. Just my thoughts on it so don't quote me on it.

 

[aikanae1]

Lol you can say that again Doots! I was thinking of Westernunion as a Complete last resort, also phone orders. Oh the troubles and wait times!

They are my good man. Newport acquired Blu and RJ Reynolds (Camel) is or has already began. Nothing beats Denis Leary walking the sands puffing away eh?

VERY COOL Biz!! That' so good to hear! I'll definitely mark you down for sure!
Keith from Painlessprocessing is helping me out Big time right now. Literally, we have been exchanging emails for the past hour, but again, Thank you so much man!! and Welcome to the vast vaping world! If I can ever help you out with anything, please give me a shout!

I don't know how practicle this is for your business, but I'm seeing more and more transactions using Popmoney and Dwolla. They might be options to offer.

It's ironic because a few months back, there was an article quoting Wells Fargo investment advisors on how solid the growth was in the ecig industry. The article is posted somewhere on ECF. It's a shame that "E-CIG" got attached to this industry because I don't think "dry herb atomizers" have to deal with this stuff even though most people assume those are for a substance that's considered illegal in most states. I got a coupon in Grupon for a "dry herb atomizer" that clearly used a CE4 on an eGo battery. I also know the ecigs passing through ebay filters are claiming they are (herbal) vaporizers or atomizers and there's no ban on those. PayPal also accepts "vaporizers".

It's just a little hypocritical (and obvious) of PayPal to accept foriegn ecig business, but not domestic. Maybe ecig stores should consider taking a clue from some of the big multi-nationals and get a p.o. box in a foriegn country (Cayman's?) and call that your "headquaters" and your office in the states is your shipping warehouse or something. I think Liberty Flights has an office in San Diego now and they still use PayPal.

I read some rants from Sun-Vapers and Got Vapes joined in about setting up a cooperative of ecig vendors. I don't know if anything has come from it yet because I'm not in the business, but your not alone. I hope vendors can pull together in some sort of joint collective since I'd hate to see all this turned over to BT and (ugh) cig-alikes.

 

[Detail Man]

I was nicotine free for several years. If our laws regulates things down to ciga-likes I guess I'll stop again. But right now I'm enjoying this hobby enough to be active, where I can If need be, to help BT/BP not run our lives. I don't think I'll go back to cigars, which I loved, because the ones I like are expensive and since I stopped consuming them I am certain I'm a bit healthier. But, in moderation, I believe cigars are not as harmful as cigarettes. I've been enjoying converting some smokers over to e-cigs and one of my ulterior motives is to have more potential voices to help beat back the BT/BP infested FDA.

 

[Uncle Willie]

You are absoultely correct Dwallen.
These are people who are passing by with luck.

PayPal generally prohibits transactions for all types of tobacco products, including cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless tobacco due to legal requirements and industry regulations for online tobacco sales."
Any merchant selling these products and offering PP is either doing so without PP's knowledge or with written permission. That permission can be revoked by PP at any time, for any reason, without explanation, and without recourse by the merchant.

Given PP's documented position on tobacco products, I'm surprised that anyone has been able to use PP to buy them at any point. Although there is certain measures we take for selected customers.

Yet vendors outside the USA such as Liberty Flights (which also has a USA warehouse) can and do use PayPal ..

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

I may be very busy striving for Ikenvape, though that does not mean that I am oblivious of the world Switcher.
Big Tobacco had nothing to do with what happened to RTS Vapes. Think about it, they were running a nicotine lab unsupervised, and unlicensed. Nicotine is a controlled substance. Running a lab of poisonous materials and then distributing without a license and also under the given circumstances is a crime. Especially when they lied to the Big guys (federal agents). This was not Big Tobacco man. I think paranoid conspiracy is coming into play and people want someone else to blame other than what is actually going on.

Nice,
Another vendor on my "do not buy from list".
But my next order from RTS will be my 6th

 

[MrsIken]

Nice,
Another vendor on my "do not buy from list".
But my next order from RTS will be my 6th

I'm sorry but I don't understand your post?
Isaac was not slamming RTS Vapes, he loves the place. He's just breaking down his opinion of what happened.

 

[Slots]

I understand (from Randy's post on another thread) that the goverment took a list of his customers for the
last 30 days when they "dropped" by.
I'm on that list, so it kind of shook me up.
I would not like a knock on my door, and all my "goodies" comfiscated.

 

[Tjloa]

I don't know if you all know this but there is a petition in the petition section for peeps top sign asking paypal to allow ecig stuff to be purchased.

On another note Vegas would welcome you Iken with open arms and lots of business lol.