First impressions of the Vamo

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I have a Vamo and a Provari, love them both, the price difference is vast and so is the quality. After saying that i still love my Vamo and use it alot.

Sounds like yours has to go back, i dont quite see the point of buying from China when the price difference is so slight, would it not be better to buy locally and be safe in the knowledge that you can send it back with a quicker turn around?.

lulu why is it such a disastrous device?
 
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If you think the Vamo is too heavy you better get a Provari Mini as the standard size with an 18650 is heavier than a Vamo.... Different class in terms of quality though. I have both and actually find the voltage adjustment much quicker and easier on the Vam even with the clacky buttons :) I pretty much only use it in 18350 mode.

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Just used my Vamo today from vaporbreak.com and I have to say, I dont see what the hype is about. Ill give my pros then my cons on this thing.

So things I like about it...
It doesnt look bad, people complain about the lcd screen, I think its kind of interesting, almost retro looking.

Battery well is fine, no rattling issues, 18650 fit perfectly.

Vapes better than my ego knockoff. To a certain extent. It definitely produces more vapor and doesnt require as slow a draw.


Things I dont like about it: which will be a longer list for sure.
For one, the threading is very course, its difficult sometimes to screw the carto on, its crunchy.

The threads arent parallel to the unit. My cartos look like the leaning tower of Piza on this thing. Ive attempted to correct the issue with screwdrivers knives hammers, bending a clearo on top of it, no dice. So its ugly.

It doesnt read the cartos resistances correctly. Sometimes the same cart will be 1.8, sometimes 2.4, sometimes 4.4, it depends. On the Vamo. As a result, I cant use the VW feature very effectively because if it reads that my 2.4ohm carto is a 5 ohm, my heating coil instantly goes beet red at a normal wattage setting of 7 or 8W and burns the juice and my coil.

The buttons arent secure and click and clack when touching or depressing them, feels like metal on metal and they rattle when moving the unit around.

Has a really deep juice catching well which makes it impossible to clean. Which I didnt see as being an issue until I attempted to unscrew a ce4 from it, unscrewed the core instead because the threading is so much more course than the threading on my carto core, and dumped juice all over the well, which I couldnt clean out very well after a half hour or so dabbing at it with qtips or even thin paper towel because the well is so deep.

Its very heavy. I mean surprisingly so being that its not that big. Definitely over a pound, maybe 2 with the 18650.

So all in all I guess you get what you pay for, I dont see myself using this very much if at all, it is entirely unreliable as far as the VW features and its incredibly annoying that I have to screw my cartos on the skewed threading on a wobbling axis and then vape on a cocked carto tip. And the flavor honestly isnt any better than from my VV Ego clone. Just more vapor. I am entirely unsatisfied and if I had paid more than 30 for this I would be really ticked. This is my first APV if you can even call it that, I am hoping there is something to them that I didnt get from this Vamo from all the raving about them on this board. Maybe Ill try a Provari next, they seem to be of higher quality...

Based on my experience and the hundreds of other reviews of the Vamo, either you got a bad one or you don't know how to use it correctly. As far as being heavy, what did you expect, seriously, lol??? Have you ever used a Provari or a similar APV? I guess not. It's no heavier than any other APV in this category. Expecting the weight of a stick battery or ego in an APV can't be a "con" but just a complete lack of vaping knowledge by the user.
 

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Based on my experience and the hundreds of other reviews of the Vamo, either you got a bad one or you don't know how to use it correctly. As far as being heavy, what did you expect, seriously, lol??? Have you ever used a Provari or a similar APV? I guess not. It's no heavier than any other APV in this category. Expecting the weight of a stick battery or ego in an APV can't be a "con" but just a complete lack of vaping knowledge by the user.

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Based on my experience and the hundreds of other reviews of the Vamo, either you got a bad one or you don't know how to use it correctly. As far as being heavy, what did you expect, seriously, lol??? Have you ever used a Provari or a similar APV? I guess not. It's no heavier than any other APV in this category. Expecting the weight of a stick battery or ego in an APV can't be a "con" but just a complete lack of vaping knowledge by the user.

You don't have anything better to do than get on my thread and try to condescend to me? About my experience with some companys product you're so personally offended by you feel the need to attack me about it? Grow up guy. Lack of "vaping knowledge"? What sage wisdom do you have for me that will align my threads? Make its resistance readings accurate and consistent? Make the buttons not rattle? i never said i expected any weight, i said it was heavy. And i said in the post it was my first apv. Soooo coming from a smaller device an Apv would be considerably heavier, correct? and it would stand to reason I'm not familiar with them then being that i stated it was my first apv, right? Lol god some people are so miserable man what would you do without the internet
 

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You don't have anything better to do than get on my thread and try to condescend to me? About my experience with some companys product you're so personally offended by you feel the need to attack me about it? Grow up guy. Lack of "vaping knowledge"? What sage wisdom do you have for me that will align my threads? Make its resistance readings accurate and consistent? Make the buttons not rattle? i never said i expected any weight, i said it was heavy. And i said in the post it was my first apv. Soooo coming from a smaller device an Apv would be considerably heavier, correct? and it would stand to reason I'm not familiar with them then being that i stated it was my first apv, right? Lol god some people are so miserable man what would you do without the internet

He is just saying what many of us were probably thinking after reading your original post...it either came with defective electronics and cross-threaded from the factory...or....you don't know what you're doing, have the settings all screwed up, cross-threaded it yourself, and don't really know much concerning vaping devices in general. Take your pick. Watching any number of the many video reviews (they conceal specific and pertinent info on this and other devices on the internet) would have told you clearly that it's a heavy device with clacky buttons. These issues are known. For that reason, complaining about it (and you certainly did) after buying the device doesn't garner much sympathy. Personally, I try to have a thicker skin when receiving criticism or direction or anything else from a member who has over 3 yrs, and over 8500 posts on a forum. Chances are, he's earned some leeway. New, thin skinned people who give people like that crap, generally find themselves on an island with no one willing to help them. I'm new here also, but I host a forum on another large forum community, understand how things roll, and get that it works like that pretty much everywhere.

The bottom line: If you are convinced that you received a bad product out of the box, return it for a replacement or refund, depending on the vendor's policy. That applies to anything that one buys, not just vaping devices.
 
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Wow I love ECF!! I just got my vamo and it is awesome!! No threading issues here. No airflow problems and I am using a smoktech udct on it and they have no airpaths cut in them. The raised 510 connection on the vamo does the trick. I was wondering about spilling juice on my vamo as I was taking off a ce4 clearomizer off it. I am used to grabbing the knarled part of the ce4 or kangers to take them on and off my devices. just had too many friends have juice mishaps doing it any other way. I love the vv vw feature as my other primary vape is my stainless steel kicked bolt. My vamo is teaching me alot about variable wattage. when I use my kick I have to take apart my mech mod to get at it to adjust it for certain juices not to burn. But with the vamo a quick flick of the thumb and I can take it up or down and find the "sweet spot" of my particular juice I am vaping. Thanks ECF for keeping me off the smokes!!
 

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He is just saying what many of us were probably thinking after reading your original post...it either came with defective electronics and cross-threaded from the factory...or....you don't know what you're doing, have the settings all screwed up, cross-threaded it yourself, and don't really know much concerning vaping devices in general. Take your pick. Watching any number of the many video reviews (they conceal specific and pertinent info on this and other devices on the internet) would have told you clearly that it's a heavy device with clacky buttons. These issues are known. For that reason, complaining about it (and you certainly did) after buying the device doesn't garner much sympathy. Personally, I try to have a thicker skin when receiving criticism or direction or anything else from a member who has over 3 yrs, and over 8500 posts on a forum. Chances are, he's earned some leeway. New, thin skinned people who give people like that crap, generally find themselves on an island with no one willing to help them. I'm new here also, but I host a forum on another large forum community, understand how things roll, and get that it works like that pretty much everywhere.

The bottom line: If you are convinced that you received a bad product out of the box, return it for a replacement or refund, depending on the vendor's policy. That applies to anything that one buys, not just vaping devices.

No, i don't think that what"most of us" were thinking that's what you were thinking. I really don't understand why you're so emotionally invested in somebody elses emotional investment in my experience with a vaping device. To the point where you need to attack my level of intelligence. You guys act as if vaping is astrophysics. The device only has 3 or 4 functions, there's nothing to not understand so i don't know why you're reiterating an already obtuse point.

And i never attempted to garner sympathy for anything, your view of things is strange, lets say. I don't know where you're coming from with any of this. Have a thick skin about being criticized? Why was i under anybodys critique at all, thats just the point, i don't care about anybody earning stripes on some internet forum, you don't talk to people like that as a civilized person. Well apparently you do, but. Everybody else on this forum has been super nice and do not go out of their way to attempt to abate people they don't know for no reason or project idiocy onto others. So i don't need your type of help anymore, goodbye

Find myself on an island with noone to talk to if i don't take guff off the regulars that have grudges against people for no reason?
lol where do u guys get this stuff...sad.
 
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Altaire, Have you sent it back, binned it or what ? and which colour version did you get, if its not stainless your gonna love the wear and tear issue.

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Lulu, why is it such a disaster ?

yeah i actually bought the stainless because i heard about the issues with the coated ones...eh...Im sending it back this weekend, if they don't take it then they don't take it. Its not that bad when it works, its just all the problems make me not want to use it yunno? Its troublesome and id rather just buy a better one. It honestly isn't that much better than my ego to warrant such a price. For me at least. And i don't like the heaviness.
 

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yeah i actually bought the stainless because i heard about the issues with the coated ones...eh...Im sending it back this weekend, if they don't take it then they don't take it. Its not that bad when it works, its just all the problems make me not want to use it yunno? Its troublesome and id rather just buy a better one. It honestly isn't that much better than my ego to warrant such a price. For me at least. And i don't like the heaviness.

If you actually want to get your money back it would be best to file a dispute with PayPal and follow their instructions for returning your VAMO. The postage won't be at all cheap. Some sellers will accept videos in lieu of returning an item but I would not count on Vapor Break doing that for a refund. There is probably a better chance they would do it for a replacement.

Size and weight aren't strong points for any VW device with a screen. Shorty mode for the VAMO is about as good as you're going to get. The PV needs to be large enough to house the controller/screen as well as the battery. An aluminum body would save a little on weight.

If you want VW and something with replaceable batteries you could try a mechanical with an Evolv Kick. That will save the size and weight needed to house the controller/screen. However, if you change power settings frequently for different juices this combo is not particularly convenient as you need to remove the Kick from the battery tube and change the power setting with a tiny screwdriver. Also, while the Kick's 10 watt power limit is greater than your current gear it is less than the VAMO's 15 watts.
 

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This is the most probable cause of your "leaning tower of Pisa"... please excuse the crude drawing.

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The Vamo head (blue) has a cutout at the bottom and accepts the 510 connector plate (grey). The plate is press-fit into the cutout during assembly. If the plate is offset during installation (shown at right), then the 510 connector will certainly lean to one side. The Vamo connector threads and body is not very robust, while the press-fit plate is tapered and pressed in very tightly... I don't recommend you attacking this problem from the top by using the connector as leverage.

What you need to do is pull the Vamo head off, and assure the plate is pressed in evenly into the head and that should fix your problem.

See THIS video on how to disassemble Vamo. Once you get it disassembled, you can attempt to straighten things out without unsoldering any wires... although unsoldering would make it easier. Note that disassembling with a pair of pliers is not my preferred method! Be careful if you're going to do it this way.

Thanks alot, if they give me crap about exchanging it Im gonna attempt this :/ lol which means Ill completely destroy it lol
 

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Don't destroy it... just take your time. Sometimes the head is difficult to remove. If you use a pliers you can mar it badly. What I do is use a piece of wood and hit the head at an angle to cause a glancing blow. Move around the head doing this and the head will start moving. The head needs to come out about 1/8" so if you start seeing about that length coming out, lessen the blows so the head doesn't fly off breaking the wires. Just take your time and it'll go.
 

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He is just saying what many of us were probably thinking after reading your original post...it either came with defective electronics and cross-threaded from the factory...or....you don't know what you're doing, have the settings all screwed up, cross-threaded it yourself, and don't really know much concerning vaping devices in general. Take your pick. Watching any number of the many video reviews (they conceal specific and pertinent info on this and other devices on the internet) would have told you clearly that it's a heavy device with clacky buttons. These issues are known. For that reason, complaining about it (and you certainly did) after buying the device doesn't garner much sympathy. Personally, I try to have a thicker skin when receiving criticism or direction or anything else from a member who has over 3 yrs, and over 8500 posts on a forum. Chances are, he's earned some leeway. New, thin skinned people who give people like that crap, generally find themselves on an island with no one willing to help them. I'm new here also, but I host a forum on another large forum community, understand how things roll, and get that it works like that pretty much everywhere.

The bottom line: If you are convinced that you received a bad product out of the box, return it for a replacement or refund, depending on the vendor's policy. That applies to anything that one buys, not just vaping devices.

+1, you read my mind. Even if I was a new person, after reading all the positive reviews on the Vamo from both new and experienced vapers, I would not be inclined to do a long negative post on it and instead figure out that either I got a bad one or I need to learn how to use it, one or the other. I would not want to sour others to a particular model due to it being defective or my own lack of experience.
 
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+1, you read my mind. Even if I was a new person, after reading all the positive reviews on the Vamo from both new and experienced vapers, I would not be inclined to do a long negative post on it and instead figure out that either I got a bad one or I need to learn how to use it, one or the other.

Yup...that's all I was really saying, but you cant say anything to some people without them getting defensive...some folks are just wired that way, all coiled up like a snake waiting to strike when offended...but...I got a bit chippy after that and got my hands slapped by the mods for it (and some posts deleted by them) ...I suppose that I have to tone it down a bit from now on or be...:censored:
 

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+1, you read my mind. Even if I was a new person, after reading all the positive reviews on the Vamo from both new and experienced vapers, I would not be inclined to do a long negative post on it and instead figure out that either I got a bad one or I need to learn how to use it, one or the other. I would not want to sour others to a particular model due to it being defective or my own lack of experience.

I voiced MY experience with it. It wasnt the same with everybody, some others did have the same experiences as myself as you see from the posts. I have just as much right to voice both sides of my opinion of it as anyone else, Im not cheerleading it, no, I have no obligation to, but my critique was still genuine. I still dont see what having a defective model, which I acknowledge I have, has to do with me not having used an APV before. Is it not heavy because all APVs are heavy? Is it not built poorly because others weren't? If I dont like things about them I just dont, I really dont understand people getting personally butthurt about it as if they made these units and are making money off of it. I dont have any obligations to make sure Vamos sell or dont sell. And if someone takes pause when considering buying one so what?? Should they not? Should they be made to think there are no bad Vamos because you got a good one and like it and think its a good deal?? Or that everybody is super happy with them? Maybe it was a good deal for you but it wasnt for me so Im not gonna tell anybody elses story Im going to tell mine. Im glad you like yours, keep buying them, Im glad you got what you wanted. I did in a way, and in other ways I didnt, it is what it is, just accept it and move on jeez...
 
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