First Order Arrived Today!

[dragginfly]

So I'm sittin here reading the forum and trying to get
some performance from my used Smoke51 cartos and
there's a knock at the door...

USPS has arrived with BOTH of my orders!

Christmas is early!

The first order was from China and took only five days. It
has another e9 batt, some no flavor nic base, blank cartz
and a few other odds/ends for my DIY kit.

The other order was from Nhale and only took 3 days. It
has a KR808-D1 PT and some Mega Cartos (HR).

Went straight to the PT and Mega cartz.

Wow!

The draw is soooo light it's almost too light. And the PT is
an automatic (thought I was getting manual). The fact
that there is not cut-out switch is nice, though.

One big long drag and blam! More vapor plus TH than I've
had with my S51 on a brand new carto.

After a couple drags, I even put it down for a while.

Before you start thinking I'm already some nic junkie...

There is logic to my strategy.

I'm trying to eliminate variables.

Problems I've been encountering with the Smoke51 were
mainly low bat power (or wide variations) and gunked up
cartos that became difficult to draw.

The S51 cartz varied, too. Some hotter than others
most likely due to variance in resistence with the
coil design.

The new S51 cartz work great with a fully charged e9
battery. But with my usage they run dry quickly and
refilling changes the whole game.

These new mega (HR) cartos from Nhale are clearly
a far superior design. With the 5v PT and high resistance
they are consistent and cool.

The filler is more open to let juice get to the wick. And
the wire appears to be straight rather than coiled.

(The straight wire should also make for easy cleaning
with a very fine dental pick/brush I found that looks
like a small pipe cleaner.)

I'm confident I'll be migrating all my equipment over to
a full set for the KR808-D1 just in order to use the
much higher quality cartos. These things should last
weeks rather than a day or two with the others.

So now I have all this other e9 stuff... LOL

The new e9 batt appears to be a defect. It is charged,
or at least the charger indicates it is, but it does not
power the carto. Won't even light up when sucking
on the terminal end.

Getting ready to try out the blank e9 cartos that came
with it to see how they do on the S51 batteries for
when I'm on the go.

I'll let you know so if any Smoke51 or GreenSmoke folks
need to get more use from them, hopefully a reliable
source of e9 cartz would help.

Later!

 

[banjo]

Glad to hear you are enjoying your new PV. Thanks for taking the time to post.

 

[DocWyatt]

Yeah, the E9 has a light hit. Those are a bit overpriced, in general, for what they really are. They will work ok.

If you decide you tire of the short battery life and want a backup plan, I would strongly consider the RIVA 510 from Liberty Flights. With the 20% ECF discount they are $30. Best deal in ecig history, thus far, IMO.

 

[dragginfly]

Thanks Doc (TheBuss) Holiday,

My understanding from reading here in the forum is that the
510 has a shorter batt life than the KR808??

I have two e9 batteries: one long, one short. The longer version
lasts 3 or 4 hours with a new carto. If it is a used carto, the drag
is much harder and it seems to drain the battery quicker.

I'm hoping these new blank e9 cartos work better in that respect.

If you decide you tire of the short battery life and want a backup plan, I would strongly consider the RIVA 510 from Liberty Flights. With the 20% ECF discount they are $30. Best deal in ecig history, thus far, IMO.

Thanks. I'm interested. But will probably skip the 510 as it is a lower voltage
and so similar to the 808-D1 in many ways.

But the eGo sounds like a future possibility when I'm not concerned about
the appearance of my PV. The mini looks so much like an analog.

Is the Riva 510 you mentioned a standard 510 or eGo?

From the price, I'm assuming it must be the new eGo style.

 

[Zenfrogs]

the Riva is almost exactly like an eGo except with a 750 mah batt instead of 650mah. Your 808 is 3.7v and the eGo 510 is only 3.2 I am not a fan of the eGo style because of the voltage difference but it has an extremely loyal following on here these days. You can get a nice hit off of them if you use LR attys or cartos but anything under 2ohms is not recommended. I had a 51o eGo but passed it on and bought a 901 Riva from Liberty Flights - it just came today. So far the 901 version is just as underwhelming as the 510 was...thankfully it came with a LR atty. Although the flavor is better

My guess is if you are loving that passthrough you will need something with more voltage than a 510 but that is just an opinion. Good luck!

 

[DocWyatt]

Hmm... depends on what you like. I noticed that you ordered two kits. E9 is rather marginal - I am trying to be nice. It is what many of the mass marketers sell. Many people like the KR808D-1. I am not a fan, but many are.

I didn't notice the KR, I just saw the E9. You have 2 mini's. You won't be using the E9 long, is my guess.

 

[dragginfly]

@ Zenfrogs - Thanks for the explanation on the Riva v eGo. That clears it up.

My primary concern with the 510 was the shorter batt life. But I do realize it is very popular and presume the appeal of the 510 is due to better flavor generated at lower voltage.

The low voltage combined with a LR carto seems a more efficient use of power. If I decide to try an LR setup, the Riva will be at the top of that list for it's longer batt life.

@ TheBuss - Today's post about the delivery items was kind of a follow up to yesterday's post (my first in this forum). So I did not go into the full details of my setup. My post was a bit disjointed from trying to describe so many things at once. (sorry)

You're correct about my e9 setup (Smoke 51 brand), which I had previously purchased at the mall kiosk. Unless I can find some good working cartos for it, I probably won't use them very long. The shipment from China was for another back up battery and blank cartos to go with the original Smoke 51 kit.

(I'm trying to find better cartos for the Smoke 51 (e9) batteries.)

The other shipment for the KR808-D1 PT was so I could test the D2 cartos. Not so much about the higher voltage as about getting a way to test the cartos without the need for more batteries and chargers.

But I am pleased with the production of the 5v + Hr setup. Higher voltage plus high resistance seems more logical and stable if you're not depending on battery power to operate it.


@ Anyone with a Smoke 51 (or GreenSmoke)...

I like the Smoke 51 batteries. As long as they are charged, they work well. The vapor production does diminish as the batteries drain. I've even noticed on some cartos that the carto can get too hot if the battery is fully charged. Presumably because it is delivering a full 4.2 volts at full charge.

The Smoke 51 batteries are either KR808-D2 or e9. Basically the same thing but from different manufactures (?) and most likely different Quality Control standards.

The batts from GreenSmoke and Smoke 51 are compatible with the e9. So if you just need a replacement battery, you can get an e9 for about $10 from China rather than paying $50 and up from GreenSmoke, Smoke 51 or other US vendors.

If you want to refill your cartos to get more use from them, I'm not having good luck doing so with the Smoke 51 brand cartos. After comparing to the new D1 Mega carto, I can see why. It's probably an issue with the filler material which does not
seem to breath well, as well as the coil design in the enclosed atomizer.

The new blank e9 (D2) cartos I received today seem better. But I need to put some more use on them to see how long they last.

When I'm ready to move from the Smoke 51 (e9) battery set up, I'll likely switch to the Kr808-D1 setup as the associated cartos look good so far.

Battery life is important.

Operating voltage plays a role.

But the quality of the cartos seems to be the most consideration for me at this time.