Congratulations are in order Leaford! IMO you guys hit it just right. These are similar in draw to the old style autos, perfect switch activation, great draw, almost exactly what I get when I modify my other ones. I have a couple phone pics to show some differences. The one shows the differences in the center post. The new ones have the small hole with a groove running around the center, not a slot across like the old ones. The length as you can see is longer than the super short black ones are but the the same as all the other shorties. And the side airholes didn't show in my phone's pics, but they are about half as big as the last shorty autos. The copper looks great , as do the chrome and gunmetal. Top to bottom are new copper, new chrome, new gunmetal, and old black. Now just quit changing the airholes and make them all as short as the black ones!