first time vaper but non-smoker

[Spamus]

hello there. I'm new here to the forum. I've gotten a vape kit from a friend of mine a month ago and I have been using it for a while. I've never smoke a ciggerette in my life, but I've had people in my life smoke infront of me. before geeting the kit, I've always been curious about vaping. right now, I have an iTaste VV with a mini-protank 2, and the all the e-juices I've had are non-nic (I've tried some with nic, but the hit kinda hurts my throat, so it's a big no)

all I'm asking is if vaping is ok for someone like me? so far, I've had no ill side effects and i don't actually inhale all the vape into my lungs (since I've never learned how to actually smoke or take a hit) if there are any ill effects, then I will quit, cold turkey. any words of wisdom?

 

[Efektt]

You are taking a risk. We are not sure what that is yet... but there is a risk. You are better off without it, if you dont need it.

 

[sketch804]

As far as I see it this is suppose to be a way to get OFF cigs or just replace them with something healthier. If you don't need it or currently smoke why take this risk, seems foolish to me.

 

[undone23]

Vaping is an excellent delivery system. It is far healthier than smoking as a nicotine delivery system. Some bars have systems where you can vaporize a "shot" of vodka, whiskey, etc. And many, many people vaporize various illegal substances(think California, Colorado and Washington). So, most people vaporize in order to ingest their chemical of choice.

If you enjoy it, by all means keep doing what your doing. But the long-term affects of vaping standard e-liquids has not been established. Current science that I've seen shows that it is far safer than smoking tobacco, etc. Vaping alcohol is more dangerous than simply drinking (it is far easier to overdose); extreme caution should be utilized.

Personally, if I was able to drop all the way down to zero nicotine, I wouldn't vape the flavored juice anymore just for the taste. But that's just my take.

 

[TomGeorge]

I disagree with the other posters. You are an American, you have free will, if you want to vape go ahead and vape! Just because you were smart enough to not start smoking doesnt mean that you shouldnt be able to enjoy vaping.

If your going to be a vaper, act like a vaper and dont do anything to ruin it for all of us. Other than that, enjoy your new hobby!

 

[Wolfenstark]

Not sure what to say as i don't know your age or if your the type of person that wants to do something when many people tell them not to.

 

[KGB7]

First thing first; Welcome to the forums!


Since you never used any type of tobacco product, there is no reason for you to vape, at all, its a waste of money. Vaping is for people that have been smoking for many years and its the last alternative that actually works for most of us to help us quit smoking.

If you want to vape, then vape away, but i see no reason for you to vape.

 

[MrStik]

I am a non smoker, well non cigarette smoker. I used to enjoy an occasional cigar, tobacco pipe, and hookah smoker. But vaping has completely replaced all of that with the exception of maybe a cigar a year.

Anyways, as a few members have posted, you are free to do whatever you like, just so long as you know there is no guarantee that it is 100% safe. But then again, what do we consume that actually won't kill us?

The reasons why I vape is to substitute the items i mentioned above, and also a good dessert vape does curb my sugar cravings. If I crave sweets, I vape some sweet vape, eat a cookie (instead of half a bag). And also a good vape with alcohol is very soothing and refreshing. And finally I do find a nice draw from a mod after coitus to be quite awesome.

 

[Alto101]

Welcome to ECF. Assuming that you are of legal age, I have no issues with you trying vaping. I am sure in time there will be proven medical risks from vaping (personally I believe that these risks will be slightly more than inconsequential but hardly anything substantial). I cannot think of any activity that adults engage in for pleasure where there are zero risks.

To the posters who are against the OP trying vaping. As vaping becomes more mainstream it is inevitable that never smokers will be curious and will try it out. I actually believe that never smokers who try and like vaping could become important allies as they may help fight against taxes, usage bans etc. I also do not think most never smokers will ever become dependent on vaping as we are.

Good luck OP and please ask questions as you have them!

 

[punkkdrummer101]

If it is something you enjoy, then go ahead. You won't become addicted because of no nicotine. But PLEASE if you have never been a smoker, do not become addictive. Vaping is amazing but it also costs money. Especially unnecessary money is you do not need it.

 

[USMCotaku]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9gwx_gdZWQ8
A study not funded by big tobacco, that finds no detectable health risks in vaping or to bystanders.

The stance that some vapers take that vaping is only for people to quit smoking is pure hog wash. If that was the case, why are they still doing it, in many cases years later? Oh, that's right, because they find it an enjoyable practice. Don't listen to them, vape away.
While I would advise against using nicotine in your vaping, as you aren't already addicted to it, even nicotine isn't the monster it has been made out to be.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Nicotine---Are-We-Ignoring-Its-Health-Benefits?&id=291157
So even if you do decide to use nicotine juices.... That's entirely your choice, and not necessarily a bad one, if you could benefit from it. If you don't need it, why introduce an addictive substance though. Either way, ex smokers (of which i am one) don't hold the magic "sole right to vape". It is a fun and enjoyable hobby, specially if you like to tinker and get into aspects like building coils.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[Phild0]

Vape on......... There are worse things you can do. However, if I wasn't previously a smoker, I would not start vaping. It's still taking chemicals into your body.

 

[spookiewon]

Vaping is an excellent delivery system. It is far healthier than smoking as a nicotine delivery system. Some bars have systems where you can vaporize a "shot" of vodka, whiskey, etc. And many, many people vaporize various illegal substances(think California, Colorado and Washington). So, most people vaporize in order to ingest their chemical of choice.

If you enjoy it, by all means keep doing what your doing. But the long-term affects of vaping standard e-liquids has not been established. Current science that I've seen shows that it is far safer than smoking tobacco, etc. Vaping alcohol is more dangerous than simply drinking (it is far easier to overdose); extreme caution should be utilized.

Personally, if I was able to drop all the way down to zero nicotine, I wouldn't vape the flavored juice anymore just for the taste. But that's just my take.

Any drug delivery system that is not ingestion is a more efficient system than ingestion because it avoids the liver's first pass at removing part of it. Vaping is as effective as any other system in which the active ingredient is absorbed through the mucous membranes. (Most of the nicotine in vaping is absorbed through the mucous membranes in the mouth rather than through the lungs.) Sublingual tablets and suppositories are other mucous membrane delivery systems. FWIW, tylenol suppositories are also more effective than oral tylenol, for the same reason.

I'm a non-smoker who vapes; and there are valid reasons for vaping that do not include quitting smoking. The OP brings up one: he enjoys the flavor. There isn't any reason not to do something that you enjoy if you've weighed the risks against the pleasure you get from the activity. I also ride a motorcycle--which is also a risky activity--and I'd resent the hell out of society telling me it was an activity I shouldn't do because my reason doesn't meet their idea of a valid reason.

My reason for vaping is that it appears to be an effective way to alleviate nerve pain. I have central pain syndrome, and I vape 18mg/ml and 24mg/ml juices with a 0.5 ohm coil for maximum nicotine delivery. I started with 12mg/ml juice with a 1.8 ohm coil and titrated my dosage until I got maximum pain relief with the least possible throat hit and the safest possible coil (battery-wise).

I admit I also love the flavor, which is maximized with the sub-ohm coil. If my nerve pain were cured today, I would continue to vape and switch to 0mg/ml juice.

 

[Redruth]

Hello and welcome to the ECF family. Vape away it's not exclusively for smokers. Just be sure to educate yourself and stick to 0% nicotine.

Happy vaping.

 

[Oberon75]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9gwx_gdZWQ8
A study not funded by big tobacco, that finds no detectable health risks in vaping or to bystanders.

The stance that some vapers take that vaping is only for people to quit smoking is pure hog wash. If that was the case, why are they still doing it, in many cases years later? Oh, that's right, because they find it an enjoyable practice. Don't listen to them, vape away.
While I would advise against using nicotine in your vaping, as you aren't already addicted to it, even nicotine isn't the monster it has been made out to be.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Nicotine---Are-We-Ignoring-Its-Health-Benefits?&id=291157
So even if you do decide to use nicotine juices.... That's entirely your choice, and not necessarily a bad one, if you could benefit from it. If you don't need it, why introduce an addictive substance though. Either way, ex smokers (of which i am one) don't hold the magic "sole right to vape". It is a fun and enjoyable hobby, specially if you like to tinker and get into aspects like building coils.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

This right here is correct. If you want to vape, vape but do stay away from the nicotine if possible.

The people who are strongly against it and saying not to remind me of recovering alcoholics who now drink Odouls, telling people not to drink even though there is a very fascinating craft beer industry out there. Meanwhile there are many far more dangerous consumables out there that are perfectly acceptable in our society.

All you people who are ex smokers need to realize that they were once non smokers. Perhaps if vaping was available to you, you never would have smoked to begin with. I sure know I wouldn't and absolutely loved to smoke. There was nothing quite like taking The cellophane off a fresh pack of menthols and lighting the first one.

I also know a lot of people who didn't even pick up smoking until far later in life and without vaping products, the OP could very much become one of them.

I didn't even start vaping to quit cigarettes. I started vaping so I could use it in places where smoking is now outlawed like at the bar. It just turns out that I enjoy vaping, 100 times more then I enjoyed smoking. Since its far safer then cigarettes, all the better.

 

[undone23]

Any drug delivery system that is not ingestion is a more efficient system than ingestion because it avoids the liver's first pass at removing part of it. Vaping is as effective as any other system in which the active ingredient is absorbed through the mucous membranes. (Most of the nicotine in vaping is absorbed through the mucous membranes in the mouth rather than through the lungs.) Sublingual tablets and suppositories are other mucous membrane delivery systems. FWIW, tylenol suppositories are also more effective than oral tylenol, for the same reason.

I'm a non-smoker who vapes; and there are valid reasons for vaping that do not include quitting smoking. The OP brings up one: he enjoys the flavor. There isn't any reason not to do something that you enjoy if you've weighed the risks against the pleasure you get from the activity. I also ride a motorcycle--which is also a risky activity--and I'd resent the hell out of society telling me it was an activity I shouldn't do because my reason doesn't meet their idea of a valid reason.

My reason for vaping is that it appears to be an effective way to alleviate nerve pain. I have central pain syndrome, and I vape 18mg/ml and 24mg/ml juices with a 0.5 ohm coil for maximum nicotine delivery. I started with 12mg/ml juice with a 1.8 ohm coil and titrated my dosage until I got maximum pain relief with the least possible throat hit and the safest possible coil (battery-wise).

I admit I also love the flavor, which is maximized with the sub-ohm coil. If my nerve pain were cured today, I would continue to vape and switch to 0mg/ml juice.

Right on! And thanks for correcting my improper use of ingestion. I guess my main message got lost in my ramblin: If you enjoy it, by all means keep doing what you're doing. That's awesome that you get pain relief from vaping nicotine!

 

[sofarsogood]

Vaping strictly for flavor is interesting. I was surprised at how strong and vivid the flavors can be. Eventually somebody will do a study to see if vaping can help people control calorie intake. I've seen mention in the threads of vaping dessert instead of eating it. If vaping is useful in that way then may be there is good reason to vape besides avoiding tobacco. Getting the flavors doesn't seem to require inhaling.

 

[Sleepy Dog Lee]

If vaping had been around when I started smoking at 12 I would have most definitely tried it and most likely loved it. I could see myself puffing big clouds while riding my mustang bike with banana seat, apehangers, and homemade chopper forks made out of fence pipes. I'm sure I would have cut quite a profile with the clouds swirling around my sweet mullet as I puffed to the sounds of Pink Floyd. Yes indeed, I would of. And if I could get high doing it? Fugedaboudit. So, who am I to say no.

You may even enjoy the hit nicotine gives you. It's a stimulant and packs a nice immediate buzz. At first that's about all it does besides make you look really cool. After awhile the relaxing effects kick in when you start withdrawing from the buzz. At that point when you take a hit you receive the thing that folks claim "relaxes" them. It's like S&M, part of the loy is in the relief of pain. Nom nom.

Anyway, tread carefully and don't pay the ferryman. If I could press a button that would rid me of nicotine addiction I would press that thing so quick your "ego" would twist and I wouldn't look twice at vaping.

 

[Spamus]

thanks to everyone who replied to my post! so far, i am still not messing with any juices beyond 0mg and i haven't had any strong urges to vape for hours on end (i'ven gone a week without vaping and didn't have an urge) if it help, i'm 25 years old so i'm of age

 

[drunkenbatman]

all I'm asking is if vaping is ok for someone like me? so far, I've had no ill side effects and i don't actually inhale all the vape into my lungs (since I've never learned how to actually smoke or take a hit) if there are any ill effects, then I will quit, cold turkey. any words of wisdom?

There are worse hobbies to spend your cash on if you have it to spare and it maybe keeps you from eating cookies, but yeah stay away from the nicotine. There's no reason to ...... bone growth and encourage hypertension and whatever else if you're not already an addict.

Your obvious known side effects will be increased dehydration (drink lots, and lots, and lots to protect your teeth & overall health) and possible sensitivities to PG/VG/flavorings. It's up in the air about the others.