Flabbergasted Why King County??? Why???
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I will say the same thing about perfume. I would outlaw perfume right now if someone would let me...LOL...Certain types trigger nausea and headaches in me...I certainly don't consent to that, but there's not a darn thing I can do about it. Maybe that's why I'm concerned about what I'm exposing other people to and their sensitivity to it.
Perfume with musk in it makes me sneeze and closes up my throat. I am so glad they stopped spritzing you with perfume in the malls! I have been known to tell people to bathe..then they wouldn't need so much perfume/cologne!
Too loud music in public, cussing by kids, yelling at kids, and last but not least rude tee shirts make me want to scream! But what are you gonna do?
I won't fly anymore because the government has gone crazy. Now guess my right to help myself quit smoking with out big brother/sister's ok is eroding too.
Too loud music in public, cussing by kids, yelling at kids, and last but not least rude tee shirts make me want to scream! But what are you gonna do?
I won't fly anymore because the government has gone crazy. Now guess my right to help myself quit smoking with out big brother/sister's ok is eroding too.
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According to that logic, they need to put a ban on cars because everyday I breath in secondhand carbon monoxide, and let's not forget to ban burrito's and other fine foods......see where I'm going with this? yes, excess methane production due to food, so let's ban eating as well.
Their are only two 100% proven theories in this life, taxes and death.
just my two cents
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Well you know I sent her an email.
Dear Maria Woods,
It's pretty obvious that you already had your mind made up to ban electronic cigarettes no matter what because the report given by this guy was all most all "I'm not sure" "I think" "I'll find out later" "They weren't sure but think" etc. This report was nothing more than this persons assumptions on what he thought. To use that as your standard to ban the use of these products in public was a very selfish personal thing that pertained to nothing more than your feelings on the subject. You have put your personal views before the publics well being and I am shocked that you accept a report that even the person giving it gave no data but maybe, should, might and ought to before CASA report of substantiated fact. By the way I am not affiliated with CASA in any way. I am amazed the good people of King County keep you employed. The bright side is maybe they will see you for who you really are and get rid of you and your co-horts.
Sincerely,
Thank God I don't live in that county but Pierce County does everything there idols King County does so I figure soon it will happen. They don't care what teens do. This was nothing more than people abusing their power because they can. Watch out world because it's going to get worse.
Dear Maria Woods,
It's pretty obvious that you already had your mind made up to ban electronic cigarettes no matter what because the report given by this guy was all most all "I'm not sure" "I think" "I'll find out later" "They weren't sure but think" etc. This report was nothing more than this persons assumptions on what he thought. To use that as your standard to ban the use of these products in public was a very selfish personal thing that pertained to nothing more than your feelings on the subject. You have put your personal views before the publics well being and I am shocked that you accept a report that even the person giving it gave no data but maybe, should, might and ought to before CASA report of substantiated fact. By the way I am not affiliated with CASA in any way. I am amazed the good people of King County keep you employed. The bright side is maybe they will see you for who you really are and get rid of you and your co-horts.
Sincerely,
Thank God I don't live in that county but Pierce County does everything there idols King County does so I figure soon it will happen. They don't care what teens do. This was nothing more than people abusing their power because they can. Watch out world because it's going to get worse.
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If you drive or use any type of mass transit for transporatation...You consent.
If you eat...You consent.
There are some things that people do in everyday life that make some points a wash.
Reading the comments to the article the PI issued about it shows that even many of the non-smokers are having WTF moments about why they banned them. I mean now they are going to make me stand with the analog smokers, which I won't be too much of a hypocrite about, but it won't help my desire to quit analogs any. it will give me the opportunity to educate analog smokers though and maybe encourage others to quit.
King County bans public e-cigarette smoking
King County bans public e-cigarette smoking
Sanity would tell me that these idiots would be happy that people are quitting smoking. Supposedly that's what they wanted, but that is apparently not the case. It's very Orwellian that the Heart Association, Cancer Society and just people against smoking are in bed with the tobacco companies. Tobacco has a reason for not wanting the competition, but they also have the money to drag the FDA and others into anti-vaping mode through disinformation.
VAPING - SURE BEATS SMOKING!!
VAPING - SURE BEATS SMOKING!!
Seattle is really turning into a nanny state, and after living in Sacramento, St.Louis, Philadelphia, Raleigh, New Orleans, and Dallas I have a lot of experience with 'big city' government. They want to stigmatize you as 'a dirty filthy smoker' which is their justification for raising the cigarette taxes so that a pack of name brand analogs are now well over $8 a pack, yet when you want to try and kick the habit, they pass a BS bill like that. Good thing I moved out of King County to Snohomish county a few months ago.
What gets me is this. Have you ever seen a cigarette burning? It never stops... the second hand smoke is constantly floating around even when the smoker is not inhaling it. I imagine the exhale is harmless by comparison, most of the harmful chemicals already having been deposited in the lungs of the smoker. The second hand smoke that is really harmful is all that constant smoke coming from the cigarette that fills the air as it burns.
Think about it... the e-cig isn't continually spewing out vapor. It is only putting out vapor that is immediately inhaled by the person vaping. And even if you are vaping high nicotine juice, how much of the nicotine do you think would even be exhaled? What next? Banning nicotine gum because you could spit and get nicotine juice on someone who chooses not to chew nicotine gum, or maybe breathe out and send nicotine fumes into the air? Give me a break! It is not about our health, it is all about money - and States are losing a lot of Tax money gained from smoking.
Think about it... the e-cig isn't continually spewing out vapor. It is only putting out vapor that is immediately inhaled by the person vaping. And even if you are vaping high nicotine juice, how much of the nicotine do you think would even be exhaled? What next? Banning nicotine gum because you could spit and get nicotine juice on someone who chooses not to chew nicotine gum, or maybe breathe out and send nicotine fumes into the air? Give me a break! It is not about our health, it is all about money - and States are losing a lot of Tax money gained from smoking.
Jen Jen, If you actually posed this logical argument with King county officials, they would respond with a blank stare. Politicians are emotional beings. That's why they are able to get elected and re-elected. They know how to relate to the emotional public. Public officials are in office because they are good at becoming elected, not necessarily good at the job they are elected to do. More often than not, the individuals that run government agencies are totally incompetent - but again, very competent at running an election.
Several of our still smoking family members have decided to believe the politicians rather than our own drs. Both of whom told us they view vaping as no different than other means of nicotine replacement. Also, they both felt that caffeine addiction was worse than nicotine. They both congratulated us on quitting and one even had me vape in her office so she could see for herself. She was very pleased with what she observed and what she did not smell.
Personally, it always bothered me to light up, knowing how it affected those around me.
Personally, it always bothered me to light up, knowing how it affected those around me.
The stupitidy of the masses can always be relied upon by those that benefit from keeping the e-cig off the market. The natural mammalian heard instinct is easy to exploit, creating a mass of sheeple that are convinced that lies are truth, via warped and deceptive information. This is used in many ways for many things by our corporate laced goverment elite. It's sad, but it is what it is. My doctor encourages the e-cigarette, and untill the truth is revealed by mainstream media (not holding my breath) to the sheeple of the world, most people will cling to whatever belief they are fed. There is nothing more annoying than the willfully ignorant.
It's NOT about health, it's about money! It would not bother these people to have blood on their hands from ppl dying from smoking reg cigs, as long as they get their profits - which to me is sociopathic.
It's NOT about health, it's about money! It would not bother these people to have blood on their hands from ppl dying from smoking reg cigs, as long as they get their profits - which to me is sociopathic.
Hey, if we're banning anything that may affect those around us without their consent (vaping, perfume, loud music, music in headphones on subways and buses, seafood in office, etc.) can we also ban all cars from NYC until the streets have been completely plowed and the melted snow drains all away? I was just waiting at the intersection and a car drove by, five feet away, splashing muddy melted snow all over me. I certainly did not consent to that.
*sarcasm
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This is nothing more than a move on King Co. to encourage people to return to smoking as the illustrious Gov. Gregoire, the old school marm, has fixed it so WA. citizens that smoke are paying dearly into the tax pool. WA. sin tax pays allot for schools and they're not about to give up that money without a fight. Health be damned. But those same voters elected her Gov. so I guess they are getting what they ask for. They call this the Evergreen State, they need to change that slogan to the Blue State.
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