RDA Flavor clone from Fasttech (Magma, Derringer, Marquis...?)

[RipCigs]

Hey guys,

I'm looking to get a new dripper. Mouth to lung, looking for flavor and throat hit, clouds are not a priority. Got a Vamo5 (15w), prefer >1.5ohm single coil builds. I've heard a lot of good stuff about the Magma,Derringer,Veritas and Tug Boat, and honestly i can't decide.
So to me the winning factors are flavor, throat hit and minimal leaking. Any advice?

Thank you!

 

[zachdelaro]

I would suggest asking on the FT forums, they seem to have a good idea of which versions are better made than others.

Amazingly enough, the slightest difference in machining and manufacturing can sometimes make or break performance in an rba.

 

[friediceman]

Minimum leaking, mouth to lung, flavor, I think that points to a Veritas.

The Ehpro Veritas is really good, I have one and still use it frequently. It is a PITA to build the first few times, but once you get the hang of it, it's not bad.

 

[mansis]

Marquis. I've got mine from fasttech. Very easy to build coil and to wick it. Flavor is pretty good.

 

[sedition]

Mouth to lung, the Origen V3 will have a tight enough draw for you. I recommend it for just about everything, but hey, that's how good it is. The current V3 clone on FT only has one thing different to the authentic - the fins on the top aren't cut in as far. Shouldn't affect performance. The V2 is also a solid choice, the only thing you're really gaining on the V3 is one airflow hole larger, which shouldn't bother you, and a little more juice capacity. If you do decide to order the V2, get in touch and I can link you the better of the options.

I think the Marquis essentially makes the Veritas obsolete, but that's just an observation without vaping them personally. I really like how they designed the Marquis, having screw-in forms to wrap around is a really awesome feature. You'll need to check on this, and any other RDA you look at, that you can close off the airflow enough for the resistance you'll probably want for mouth to lung.

 

[RipCigs]

Thanks for your input, now i have even more choices to think about
I've seen pbusardo's review of the veritas, seemed pretty nice. Also not a fan of the way you screw the coil in but hey, not like you have to do that every day..
I have no idea how i'm gonna decide on one

 

[sedition]

I actually have a Veritas clone sitting among the rest, and I agree - it reminds me of a Meccano set, and that's not really how I like my RDAs. I've never even built on it because of that. Shallow, but IDGAF.

 

[RipCigs]

Ok so now I'm thinking of saying f* it and get both a Veritas and Derringer. The marquis seems superior for a dual coil, but for a single i think the veritas has better airflow.
Somebody please stop me or push me over the edge on this one
I have also been suggested the Vertex on the fasttech forums, any opinions on that one?

 

[sedition]

What kind of airflow do you use for mouth to lung? I'm going on the assumption that you'd need quite restricted flow, but I could be wrong.

 

[RipCigs]

What kind of airflow do you use for mouth to lung? I'm going on the assumption that you'd need quite restricted flow, but I could be wrong.

I wouldn't say very restricted, but i would like to option to adjust it to quite restricted yes. I don't have my tank here to measure the airhole size, but lets say 1 - 1,5 airholes open on a Kanger MOW tank is my usual setting. My current dripper isn't adjustable so i cant really tell you anything based on it..

 

[johnvalkie]

Marquis would be mine choice.

 

[sedition]

I'm an Origen fanboy, full disclosure. I also like the Marquis.. I just bought the Origen V3 authentic so I'm not looking to supplant it, but otherwise I'd be getting a Marquis. Also, I'd drop the Tugboat - non adjustable unless it's been upgraded, and it whistles like an early Porky Pig cartoon. Derringer.. meh. It's another traditional 3 post that only brings an extra reduced chamber that only ends up causing spitback - I suspect that's what most people are thinking they're getting the flavor from.

 

[RipCigs]

I'm an Origen fanboy, full disclosure. I also like the Marquis.. I just bought the Origen V3 authentic so I'm not looking to supplant it, but otherwise I'd be getting a Marquis. Also, I'd drop the Tugboat - non adjustable unless it's been upgraded, and it whistles like an early Porky Pig cartoon. Derringer.. meh. It's another traditional 3 post that only brings an extra reduced chamber that only ends up causing spitback - I suspect that's what most people are thinking they're getting the flavor from.

I will look into the Origen more in detail after work!
Wherever i look into the Veritas vs Marquis discussion, the answer is always single = Veritas, dual = Marquis.
Fasttech people told me don't bother with Derringer, don't really know why...
I wish i could pay fasttech to send me 20 atties for 1 day and take them back, this is horrible

EDIT: More love for the Origen and hate for the Derringer showing up on fasttech. Looks like Origen is in the lead for now

 

[sedition]

TBH I stay away from the FT forums. You'll get more accurate info by taking the German reviews and translating them then you will reading English discussion. Approximately 2:5 pages of info vs argument.

I doubt there's much in the race between a Vertitas and Marquis. They're essentially V1 and V2 of the same idea. If anything there looks good to you, I'd go with the Marquis. That's just my IMO tho. The Derringer is good in it's own right, but I personally say that it's great in the 'Horizontal Coil' bracket, perhaps the best, flavor wise, whereas the Veritas/Marquis are solid performers in the 'Vertical Coil' bracket. The latter being for flavor, the former bring for cloud.

 

[RipCigs]

Interesting. And i just got a lot of hype regarding the Freakshow, any thoughts on that one?

For now im closing in on 2:
Veritas vs Marquis and Origen vs Derringer

For now im leaning more towards Veritas and Origen for the single coil build..

Edit: EH SCREWIT
Gonna take the Veritas, Derringer and Origen. If i don't ill just keep wondering how the one i didn't pick was. 20$ or 30$, whatever
Thanks for the help guys!

 

[friediceman]

Interesting. And i just got a lot of hype regarding the Freakshow, any thoughts on that one?

For now im closing in on 2:
Veritas vs Marquis and Origen vs Derringer

For now im leaning more towards Veritas and Origen for the single coil build..

Edit: EH SCREWIT
Gonna take the Veritas, Derringer and Origen. If i don't ill just keep wondering how the one i didn't pick was. 20$ or 30$, whatever
Thanks for the help guys!

I think you'll like all of them. I love my Veritas and Freakshow mini. The build you put on them will be key, some builds yield better, more intense flavor than others.

 

[RipCigs]

I think you'll like all of them. I love my Veritas and Freakshow mini. The build you put on them will be key, some builds yield better, more intense flavor than others.

I'd probably take the freakshow if there was a single coil version..
What kind of builds do you recommend? I've tried spread, micro, twisted and other "plain" builds above 1 ohm (not into sub ohming) with organic and japanese cotton. In my current dripper, the difference is almost not noticable. Flavor wise at least.

 

[friediceman]

I'd probably take the freakshow if there was a single coil version..
What kind of builds do you recommend? I've tried spread, micro, twisted and other "plain" builds above 1 ohm (not into sub ohming) with organic and japanese cotton. In my current dripper, the difference is almost not noticable. Flavor wise at least.

The original Freakshow came out as a dual coil only. But the Freakshow mini can be set up in single/dual mode. I actually have a single coil on it at this very moment.

Since I'm a flavor junkie, my builds are usually geared towards that, and almost all of them are sub ohm builds. The build I've used on Veritas for a long time, is twisted 28g kanthal, 5 wraps around a 2mm drill bit, and single horizontal coil placed about 1/2 way above the air hole (so the air can come in from below the coil). For Freakshow mini, because the air comes from the bottom, I have a 0.35ohm clapton coil sitting right above the air hole, all of the extra coil surface area maximizes the amount of juice vaporized, thus resulting in intense flavoring along with some dense clouds.

 

[RipCigs]

The original Freakshow came out as a dual coil only. But the Freakshow mini can be set up in single/dual mode. I actually have a single coil on it at this very moment.

Since I'm a flavor junkie, my builds are usually geared towards that, and almost all of them are sub ohm builds. The build I've used on Veritas for a long time, is twisted 28g kanthal, 5 wraps around a 2mm drill bit, and single horizontal coil placed about 1/2 way above the air hole (so the air can come in from below the coil). For Freakshow mini, because the air comes from the bottom, I have a 0.35ohm clapton coil sitting right above the air hole, all of the extra coil surface area maximizes the amount of juice vaporized, thus resulting in intense flavoring along with some dense clouds.

Well crap now i want the freakshow mini too hahahah

Now to find the right fasttech versions to order!

 

[Uncletattoowhat]

Honestly, for flavor, my go to dripper (since I got it) has been my FT Aeolus clone. I got one of the early versions without adjustable airflow, but they just updated with a new one that has a 1:1 style airflow. All others have been sitting, including my Derringer, Mini Haze, Marquis, etc.