Flavor loss from happy vaper 2.0 ohms 510 atty after cleaning?!?!?!?!?help!!!!!

[4Sho]

Hi guys, i have a question... i have the 2.0 ohms 510 atty from happy vaper, and i had it on the provari and i guess kinda tightened too much, i figured that because when i put it on the ego-t 650 mah battery and screwed it in all the way and it wasn't making a connection. so i decided to lower the bottom of the atty by using a paperclip and pulling the bottom out a little bit. well it did work by making a connection but, it lost a lot of flavour for some reason and i thought it was because of the ego battery not being powerful enough so i put it on the provari at 4.2 volts (thats what i was vaping at before and always) and surprisingly the flavour still wasn't as strong, a lot of vapour but not much flavour.
so i decided to clean it, since it hadn't been about 3 weeks if not a little more. so i blew inside the atty blowing out all the excess juice. then i ran some hot water through it and did a dry burn because i used a decent amount of dark juices 50-50 ratio pg-vg. so it took a while to get the glow going. then i cooled down by letting it sit in front an a.c for like 5 mins and then ran some warm water through it, then cleared the rest of the water by blowing in it and then letting it dry off for 24 hours. & now i put some fresh juice in it and did some dripping and vaping for like 30 mins and still not much flavour, and now i have been vaping on it more than couple hours and still no improvement on the flavour.
sorry you guys have to read so much and i really appreciate it in advance to whoever takes the time read it and advise as to what happened.
imo i think when i moved the bottom part to have a connection with the ego battery thats where it went wrong.. i tried pushing it back in but still no luck!

again sorry for the long post and thanks again for reading and replying if you guys have any advice!

 

[Danesnpits]

I wonder if it still has some water residue. This has happened to me before. And I just kept vaping, and eventually got some flavor..but I know there was water in it, even after letting it sit for a few hours. Sorry that is all I can offer!

 

[4Sho]

hmm i wonder, but imo i don't think thats an issue since i let it sit for a while and also i have been vaping on it for a while too... so if there was any water residue it should've burnt or steamed off by now...

 

[Danesnpits]

Possibly? But I know for me, even in a ce2 r4 carto, that had some water left in it, the dang thing took 2 fills before I finally got the flavor back. I wonder if dewicking this thing would help?

 

[4Sho]

hmmmm i c ... im on my 3rd refill from a regular 510 cartridge... and i still cant say its improving if any any at all.... and i personally don't want to dewick it

 

[Danesnpits]

Ok, I am wondering then if you should go through the whole cleaning process, or. just try to blow it out. Then prime it with some VG, and give it a whirl. Do you have a different flavor you could try on it? What is vapor production like now?

 

[Dusty_D]

If I had to make a calculated guess, I would say that you dislodged the mesh around the coil when you pulled the bottom post of the atty down. That could perhaps be letting in some extra air that is affecting the amount of flavour that you are getting when vaping.

That's just my guess though.

 

[4Sho]

well like i said i thoroughly cleaned it yesterday...i've tried 3 different flavours and no luck... the vapour production is like 9.0-9.5/10... so very decent.

 

[4Sho]

If I had to make a calculated guess, I would say that you dislodged the mesh around the coil when you pulled the bottom post of the atty down. That could perhaps be letting in some extra air that is affecting the amount of flavour that you are getting when vaping.

That's just my guess though.

if thats the case how can i move it back in place... thats what i think is too because i forgot to mention the th and a drag is lighter than before

 

[Bdbodger]

It is possible that when you lowered the centre post you moved the isolator between it and the outside threading . It maybe making a bit of contact when the atty heats up . I have had poblems as well with the provari pushing the centre post down . You will be better off if you use certain gear only with the provari and don't move it between another mod or battery .

 

[4Sho]

hmm i c ...you are right bdbodger i have noticed that the provari tends to push the centre post up into the atty compared to the cuz those are the only two mods i own... and keep it that way for a while,... i guess i can just keep the gear separate... but would anyone know how to fix the problem i have... i really dont want throw the atty away since it still gives loads of vapour and th... i now at least know what not to do with my next atty... but how do i fix the current problem that im having... thats my question

 

[4Sho]

any other ideas guys??

 

[zer0ith]

you could always give this a try....

This is the only method I use, and I have attys that are 4-5 months old and still going strong. One in particular, I have vaped well over 300ml through and it hits like the day (after) I got it.

1. Blow out any excess juice.
2. Rinse with hot water and blow out thoroughly. (no need to dry over night, or anything. They have a built in dryer )
3. Connect to battery...preferably something higher voltage than stock. I use my variable voltage power supply that's connected to a PS passthrough and set it to about 5.2V for a 510 (6.5ish for an 801), but if all you have is stock, then that will work too.
4. Push button until you see orange hot...carefully...not super bright (white hot).
5. Let off button and blow down the barrel (from a distance, not with your mouth actually on it), this kind of flash cools it and also gets some of the moist air out to speed the drying process.
6. Repeat (steps 4 and 5) 5-10 times... you will see that gradually (once you've got it dry) the glow will occur much quicker.
7. Once you have it to this point, press and release the button at a rate that just holds the orange glow (kind of a manual 'pulse width modulate'). Keep this glow going for 20-30 seconds, being very careful to maintain the glow at low orange (not bright red/white) or you'll pop it.
8. Once you have done that, repeat steps 2-7 one more time.

At this point you will have an atty that performs like (or better than) brand new. I have used this technique with 510, 801, 901, 401, and 4081 attys and it always works for me. I like this method because it is quick and simple. No need for any cleaners or overnight soaking. Takes 2-3 minutes and you're back in business.

** You do have to use some caution, as you can pop an atty pretty easily until you have the method down. I haven't popped one in quite some time though.

**Also, no need to remove the wick (that's in there for a reason), as you are baking all the gunk out when you do this. This is the reason for the second rinse in the middle of the process. You basically turn the gunk to ash with the sustained orange glow, then rinse the ash out.

If anyone tries this, give some feedback and let me know if you find any ways to perfect this method. Seems to work great, but there are always ways to improve

Edit: (some tips on the "rinse, dry and burn" stages of the process)

**Tips on the 'rinse' stage (step 2)
Step 2 is meant to get as much juice out of the atty as possible. The more juice you can get out with the water rinse, the faster you will get the atty dry in steps 4&5. (The water will evaporate off much quicker than juice.)
- Rinse by just running hot water from the tap first. Then once you have it somewhat clean, fill the atty barrel with water then (before all the water runs out), put it in your lips and blow the water through really hard. This will give all the nickel foam that's in the atty a kind of "power wash" and get most of any remaining juice out.

**Tips on the 'dry' stage (steps 4 & 5):
Steps 4 and 5 are meant to get the atty 'bone dry', before you move on to step 6 and the button pulsing.
-The more water you can blow out before connecting to the batt, the better. Blow through the atty really hard from both ends (not at the same time)
- You can also blow gently down the barrel (from a distance), while holding the button in step 4 to speed the drying process. This will clear the hot moist air out of the atty and allow for a quicker drying time. The key in these steps is to get the atty dried out.

Tips on the 'Burn' stage (step 7)
The whole key to not popping the atty is keeping a good visual on the coil, and watching the hottest part while pulsing the button. I have had a few attys that will get bright hot on one end of the coil and nothing on the other end of the coil. The way to make this method the most effective is to maintain that orange glow at the hottest end while pulsing the button. If you keep it up long enough you will see the glow slowly migrate across the coil. When you are all done the entire coil should glow when the button is pressed.
Once you are past the drying step, you should not hold the button for more than one second. It should really be much shorter than that. More like a button pulse of 2-3 times a second.

 

[VirusZ]

Its not the water, every day i wash my atty and use it, no waiting for it to dry, i mean i dry it myself as much as i can then drip on it and vape.
Maybe your atty just dead, i usually use mine for no more then one week.

 

[lelly]

Its not the water, every day i wash my atty and use it, no waiting for it to dry, i mean i dry it myself as much as i can then drip on it and vape.
Maybe your atty just dead, i usually use mine for no more then one week.

You wash your atty every day and it only lasts a week...doesn't that tell you something? Mine last minimum 1 month, I have a few going on 6 months now. I blow them out regularily and rarely use alcohol/water soaks, rinses or dry burns. If I must rinse or soak it, I would rather do it with unflavored PG.

 

[4Sho]

you could always give this a try....

thanks zer0ith i do it similar to this method but i guess i'll try this definately next time i wash out my atty... thanks also to everybody else who has responded... everything helps... thanks a lot you guys i can always count on ecf and you guys for being here

 

[VirusZ]

Ahem, no they "work" fine after a week, but I prefer to use a new one performance wise.
8$ for a week is not much, i always compare to how much i used for cigarettes...

BTW, you should know that you must soak it every night in alcohol if you want it to last for long.
Did you heard about the custom made HH.357 atomizer? So the guy that invented it said that if you want your atty to last long and keep good flavor you should soak it overnight in Everclean (95% alcohol) and if you dont have that use alcohol.
He also said that dry burning is a NO NO, less about the coil but more about the fact that the wick/rope will dry out and wont wick squid...

I trust his word, im sure he know more then us about this things...

You wash your atty every day and it only lasts a week...doesn't that tell you something? Mine last minimum 1 month, I have a few going on 6 months now. I blow them out regularily and rarely use alcohol/water soaks, rinses or dry burns. If I must rinse or soak it, I would rather do it with unflavored PG.

 

[Pipeous]

a 3 month old atty used with dark juices... the wick with be plugged up

it's dead Jim, I'm just a vaper, not a magician...