Flavoring allergies

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Nolongerpuffin

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OK, I've been vaping exclusively since last December. Got me off a 40 year 2PAD habit.

Here's my problem. So far, I have had allergic reactions to the custard and citrus flavorings in e-liquids.

Sometimes it's easy to avoid the juices to which I react because the product description mentions something about the flavoring, or the name of the juice itself does.

Where I run into problems is when the name of the juice does not indicate anything about what's in it, and the manufacturers (understandably) don't want to disclose the details of their recipes.

I have resigned myself to avoiding all "creamy, custardy, citrusy" juices to be on the safe side, which means that there are a lot of juices that I cannot use.

I have been unable to find out the chemical names of the flavorings to which I react, which might make it easier for me to determine if a juice is safe for me to use.

Luckily, my reaction is not life-threatening: just an itchy tongue, palate, sinuses if I exhale through my nose, and my tongue feeling "scalded" for a couple of days afterwards. I luckily react fast enough that I do not inhale that vapor.

Oddly, artificially flavoured citrus candies do not bother me, so whatever is used in e-juice is different or perhaps in a lower concentration.

I have also reacted in similar fashion to a few tobacco juices, and having smoked pipes, cigars, and cigarettes over the years without allergic reaction to the actual tobacco, it is definitely a reaction to flavorings.

PG/VG ratios do not make a difference.

I find myself vaping mostly mint and cinnamon juices, with the occasional apple, grape, or berry blend thrown in.

It's a pity as I've tried a few "bakery" or "dessert" juices and the reaction has been "Yum! Oh crud!"

Do any of the DIYers know the actual names of the citrus/custard/cream flavorings used in e-juices? I'd like to broaden my flavor horizons some, but not at the expense of my tongue feeling like it's going to peel for a couple of days.

Thanks in advance,
 

Hans Wermhat

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The folks tat make the flavors keep the ingredients a secret for the most part just like the folks that make the juices. I'm afraid it may just have to be trial and error for you. Have you tried unflavored juice? You can make it yourself REALLY cheap. Or you can buy it. A lot of folks vape unflavored and add just a splash of mint or menthol. If you want to get into DIY, there are a few flavoring companies that make "natural" flavors with nothing artificial, and there's NET and tobacco absolute if you like tobacco flavors and want something natural.
 
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OK, I've been vaping exclusively since last December. Got me off a 40 year 2PAD habit.

Here's my problem. So far, I have had allergic reactions to the custard and citrus flavorings in e-liquids.

Sometimes it's easy to avoid the juices to which I react because the product description mentions something about the flavoring, or the name of the juice itself does.

Where I run into problems is when the name of the juice does not indicate anything about what's in it, and the manufacturers (understandably) don't want to disclose the details of their recipes.

I have resigned myself to avoiding all "creamy, custardy, citrusy" juices to be on the safe side, which means that there are a lot of juices that I cannot use.

I have been unable to find out the chemical names of the flavorings to which I react, which might make it easier for me to determine if a juice is safe for me to use.

Luckily, my reaction is not life-threatening: just an itchy tongue, palate, sinuses if I exhale through my nose, and my tongue feeling "scalded" for a couple of days afterwards. I luckily react fast enough that I do not inhale that vapor.

Oddly, artificially flavoured citrus candies do not bother me, so whatever is used in e-juice is different or perhaps in a lower concentration.

I have also reacted in similar fashion to a few tobacco juices, and having smoked pipes, cigars, and cigarettes over the years without allergic reaction to the actual tobacco, it is definitely a reaction to flavorings.

PG/VG ratios do not make a difference.

I find myself vaping mostly mint and cinnamon juices, with the occasional apple, grape, or berry blend thrown in.

It's a pity as I've tried a few "bakery" or "dessert" juices and the reaction has been "Yum! Oh crud!"

Do any of the DIYers know the actual names of the citrus/custard/cream flavorings used in e-juices? I'd like to broaden my flavor horizons some, but not at the expense of my tongue feeling like it's going to peel for a couple of days.

Thanks in advance,

Walmart sells VG in their pharmacy section, about $5.00 for 200ml.
You can then get nicotine from many places online, 100mg nicotine is the strongest , but easiest to calculate overall e-liquid mg content. ( 1ml of 100mg nicotine with 9mg of VG gets you ( 10ml of 10mg juice )
Flavors from Cappela and The Flavor Apprentice work great.

VG-$5.00
100mg Nicotine -$25.00
Flavor assortment- $35.00
For under $75.00 you can start DIY and know what goes into your e-liquid.
 

Hans Wermhat

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2 better/cheaper places to get DIY stuff:
One Stop DIY Shop, LLC
Electronic Cigarettes | E-Liquids - MyFreedomSmokes

MFS is cheaper on PG, VG & nicotine and has a pretty good deal on a starter kit that you can customize (when they aren't out of stock on its components).

OSDIY is cheaper on flavorings and shipping. They have a starter kit, but it's not as good.

Lots of folks here use Wizard Labs too.
 

Nolongerpuffin

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I don't think flavorless will work for me. I was a menthol smoker back in my former life, and wouldn't have been able to get off the analogs had I not found a strongly flavored menthol/mint juice. I think I'm just as addicted to the menthol/mint flavor as I am to the nicotine.

I suspect I will start DIY at some point in the not too distant future. I sort of already sneak around on the fringes of it. My preferred vape is a mixture of cinnamon, the menthol mind, and a peppermint candy juice, mixed down to about 16mg nic.

This keeps my habit happy and I enjoy the flavors (much more so now that I've gotten a few Pyrex tanks as both the menthol mint and the cinnamon eat polycarb clearos, and a couple of istick batteries), but it would really be nice to branch out a bit without the constant worries about the dratted allergy cropping up.

I also have a green apple/menthol juice that I like and can vape to a point, but it gives me vaper's tongue if I vape it for long periods of time and I Have to hit straight cinnamon or menthol to get my tongue working again.

What I'd really like is to be able to find a custard/toffee juice that is safe for me to use. I've tried one that I thought was absolutely delicious until the reaction hit. The vendor from whom I bought it was kind enough to credit my account for the cost.

The problem is that a lot of the fruit flavors taste like kool-aid to me and the tobacco flavors I do like have "it" in them.

The DIY starter kit is sounding better and better though the idea of handling 100% nic gives me the willies. I think I'd gp with 36% for safety's sake.
 
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