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Kate

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I've heard TBob mention that he uses flavouring that has alcohol in it and was just wondering if anyone who does this could tell me if there is a flavour with the alcohol?

I don't drink because I don't like the taste but I'm having a lot of trouble getting alcohol and oil free food flavourings in the UK. If alcohol is ok to vape then it'll be a lot easier but if it has a taste I won't enjoy it.

Is alcohol ok for the atomiser? Does anyone know, I wonder if it makes the atomiser burn clean but maybe it contributes to overheating.
 

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Kate, I have in the past used extracts that are water-alcohol based. Mostly I use Bickford flavors now, PG-based. But I often add alcohol to thin them for a better viscosity. It's just a theory at this point that alcohol won't damage the atomizer and might help keep it cleaner. Alcohol burns very clean, after all. It's also a small part of some commercial liquids.

Atomizers do die. Do we ever know why? I don't think I'm hastening their deaths, but, like most here, I've had atomizers just stop working.

Way to go, Jamie!
 

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I've heard TBob mention that he uses flavouring that has alcohol in it and was just wondering if anyone who does this could tell me if there is a flavour with the alcohol?

I don't drink because I don't like the taste but I'm having a lot of trouble getting alcohol and oil free food flavourings in the UK. If alcohol is ok to vape then it'll be a lot easier but if it has a taste I won't enjoy it.

Is alcohol ok for the atomiser? Does anyone know, I wonder if it makes the atomiser burn clean but maybe it contributes to overheating.

Hi Kate
I was told by a UK supplier. But not one of the members on this forum. That if you want to become drunk very quickly put neat alcohol in the atomiser and within 10 minutes you'll be out of your head. But they also said that it doesn't last too long on whether that's true I do not know.
But whether this is safe or true don't quote me on this.
 

Kate

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That's funny Ned, I don't want to get drunk! Probably there's so little alcohol in an ecig mix made from flavouring and glycerine that it wouldn't have any effect. From what I can remember alcohol evaporates when you cook it with food and leaves just the flavour of the ingredients rather than an alcohol taste. This might happen with vapour too.
 

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Probably there's so little alcohol in an ecig mix made from flavouring and glycerine that it wouldn't have any effect.

From experience, I'd say that's true. There are ways to vaporize alcohol and get a fast high, but our devices aren't one of those ways! I do get the Kahlua liquor flavor, but not the alcohol buzz. And that is exactly what I'm after. I want a good taste, and aftertaste. Commercial e-liquids almost all have a wimpy flavor, as far as I'm concerned.

For health reasons, I consume exactly one jigger of alcohol each day. No more, no less. It's tasty medicine. Good for my heart and circulation.
 

Mihai

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yep, there is no way to get a buzz from alcohol, even if you put only pure 90-100 deg alcohol in the cart.
First of all I'm not sure that pure alcohol wouldn't ignite, I wouldn't try.

A normal european beer has 5% alcohol x 500 ml = 25 ml pure alcohol in a bottle. If you fill a cart (1ml) with pure alcohol is like drinking 20 ml of normal beer. I think not even a new born can get drunk from 20 ml of beer.
If you inhale at once 1 ml of pure alcohol, you might get a short buzz BUT 1 ml would need a lot of puffs from your e-cigarette so again no buzz for ya :)


In a normal cart there is about 5% alcohol, from what I read. That's 5% from 1ml = 0.05 ml, equivalent with you drinking 1 ml of beer...

Kahlua is 20% alcohol. If you put 50% of the cart Kahlua (which is a lot for an e-liq) -> 20% x 50% x 1 ml = 0.1 ml - equivalent to 2 ml of beer.

so, I think, that supplier had no idea what he was talking about.
 

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they don't say what is inside. Send them a mail, maybe they will tell you. Without knowing the composition there is no way to tell if any of those are ok for e-cigs
:oops: my english is simply sucks man ..

don;t know how to explain email them

but dr loi is from malaysia and this product is made in malaysia I do hope he can provided some info on this redman extract as he is expert on e cig..and stuffs.
 

Kate

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My LorAnn candy flavours have arrived from Barry Farm. Here's what I got:

Apple
Blackberry
Bavarian Creme
Bubble Gum
Butter
Vanilla Butternut
Pralines Creme
Pomegranate
Pistachio
Pecan
Mint Chocolate Chip
Mango
Key Lime
Cranberry
Coconut
Cheesecake
Chocolate Hazelnut
All these contain only flavouring, propylene glycol, alcohol, ethanol, water or ethyl alcohol. My understanding is that alcohol, ethanol and ethyl alcohol are all more or less the same. Please someone correct me if I've got that wrong.

I also bought:
Chocolate
Grape
These contain colourings - this wasn't listed on the website. I won't be vaping these.

So far I've only tried cranberry. It's lovely, strong, fruity. Yum. A little goes a long way. It's going to take me a long time to work my way through all these flavours.

These come in 1 dram bottles/3.7ml for $1.59 each. Shipping to the UK was $22.30
 

TropicalBob

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You have the makings of some great tropical vapors! Mango, Key lime, coconut ... Mix some of them.

BTW: Food coloring is propylene glycol and dye. That's it. I've smoked it before, both the red and green. I had hoped I could snort red "smoke" from each nostril, and freak out my environmental friends by puffing green smoke at them. Didn't work out for coloring the vapor ... but it colored everything else inside the cig and cartridge. Took me a long time to clean it all out. I won't do that again.

Plus, if my doctor ran a fiber optic into my lungs, I'm not sure what he'd make of the red/green color he'd find. I'd probably have a disease named after me!
 

Kate

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I'll try bubblegum with my next mix Emp and let you know what I think of it. The flavours are very concentrated so I don't think dripping neat will give a fair idea of the taste.

I'm a bit hard on atomisers Katy so I may not be a good person to judge the flavours in that respect. I'm also using a very small amount of xylitol in my mix and that seems to clog the atomiser. I couldn't give a fair appraisal of the suitability of the flavours.

You know TBob, one of the things that has amazed me most about vaping is the variety of tastes I'm now willing to try. I used to smoke roll ups and thought I liked the taste. Now I think that maybe I was just used to it as part of my habit, it tastes nasty to me now. I'll do some mixing when I get a better idea of the individual tastes I think. I'm looking forward to trying this all out.

That's funny about you vaping dye. Once upon a time I might have had a go myself with green for St Patrick's day but I'm more careful these days and am afraid that dyes might be carcinogenic or something. I'll keep my lungs their natural colour for now, I don't want to get 'TBob lung'.
 
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