Flavoring's, finally found a good one!

[Mary Kay]

I got my first order of capella's today. I ordered double chocolate, amaretto, French toast, ad caramel. I also ordered graham cracker but it backordered! Drat, it was the one I most wanted!

I made some flavors for my cartomizers. S'mores..French toast (instead of graham) Double Choco and afew drops of Lorann's marshmallow. very passable! It will be better once the graham gets here.
I have dark Chocolate cartos..but no refill liquid yet..so the double choco will have to do.
Finally a decent caramel! All the others I have tried tasted too chemical. This was fine for me.
Amaretto..while wonderful in my coffee (3 drops in a big mug) I am a bit hesitant to vape. Don't know why..I love the scent of amaretto. And since that is all vaping is..scent rather then "Taste", I should be fine..we'll see when I screw up my courage!
To all of these flavors I added P.G. and a few drops of Glycerin as well as 10 drops of 36mg to a 5 ml bottle. 10 drops is 1/2 a ml. I think. I am too lazy to figure out what my nic level is in a 5ml bottle. To me it is the same as waving vermouth over gin and calling it a very, very dry martini!

Has anyone else tried the capella's?

 

[mixxy]

I haven't tried capella's yet, but plan to one of these days. I use Lorann's flavoring, but only because I have a cake decorating store locally that stocks all of the Lorann flavorings.. so I like not having to pay shipping. My favorite is Keoke Coffee.. and I vape that most of the time. I bought almost all coffee (and coffee related) cartomizers from V4L.. I have such a hard time trying new flavors.. I just love my coffee!

 

[crashtestjeep]

Im just getting into mixing myself and please excuse me if I mistakenly overlooked this if the answer is in ur post, but for a 5ml bottle you made, how many drops of flavors do u generally use? I tried the mixing calculaters but it left me confused

Maybe a real world, non equated answer will help me better

I can figure out the amnt of nic and PG to use but getting the flavor just right is where I have issues

Thanks in advance!

 

[mixxy]

Im just getting into mixing myself and please excuse me if I mistakenly overlooked this if the answer is in ur post, but for a 5ml bottle you made, how many drops of flavors do u generally use? I tried the mixing calculaters but it left me confused

Maybe a real world, non equated answer will help me better

I can figure out the amnt of nic and PG to use but getting the flavor just right is where I have issues

Thanks in advance!

Hi Crashtest Not sure if this will help, but (below) was Kate's recipe that I used when first starting DIY. I found I wasn't that fond of glycerine (2 sweet & 2 thick for me) so I use all PG instead, so I dropped the distilled water in the recipe, since the PG is thinner. The flavoring can get kind of tricky, since some flavors are stronger than others, and you will need less. I start out with the least amount, then add another drop or two at a time, then taste test until I like the flavor.

Kate's Recipe

10% distilled water
10 - 20% LorAnn candy flavouring
20% 36mg commercial eliquid
30% glycerine BP/USP/food grade
30% propylene glycol BP/USP/food grade

That makes a 7mg/low nicotine liquid. You can use 60% glycerine instead of using pg or the other way around, use 60% pg and no glycerine. Adjust flavourings, nicotine and water to suit your tastes and make it a decent consistency for wicking onto the atomiser. If it's too thick it won't wick out of cartridges, if it's too thin it will seep out too quickly.

 

[Kimerpuff]

Iv'e never tried cappellas, I would start with 10% flavor try it, if its not where you want then add a drop and try it, rinse and repeat until you get the juice to taste how you want it. Since everyones taste buds are different, this method works for everyone

 

[Mary Kay]

Some where I have Kate's recipe in drops..I will look for it!

Since I was only making a 5ml bottle..I figured DIYing by the seat of my pants couldn't hurt. So I put 8 to 10 drops of Capella's 10 drops of 36 nic and 5 drops of Glycerine...filled the rest to the top with P.G.

For those keeping track that's 1 and 1/2 ml's of "stuff' to 3 and 1/2 to 4ml's of P.G. I only added like 3 drops or so of marshmallow in the Lorann's because it is major strong..compared to the capella.

Keep your testers very small..from a 3 ml to 5 ml so if you mess up..oh well! I don't add the Nic until the smell and taste is right..why waste it?

If you try DIY.. first shake up the flavoring!!!! It separates.

There are lots of great shops with DIY stuff on ECF..spend some time looking at the sites and get a few hints from the pros. Also stalk the DIY forums o0n this board. Lots of very very creative people in there. They even found a way to recreate tobacco flavors using..the very same stuff cigarette makers use to make their products taste good! (well as good as analogs ever get!)

 

[HzG8rGrl]

MaryKay-I just love the French Toast-I put in 6 drops 36mg pg nic/3 drops vg 0 nic and 1 drop of the french toast. This filled 1 cart for taste testing.

 

[crashtestjeep]

Thanks everyone for all the help! Seems 10-20% is the target so i will take ur advice and start w a little and continue to add to suite my taste.

Thanks again guys!

 

[mergryphon]

Im just getting into mixing myself and please excuse me if I mistakenly overlooked this if the answer is in ur post, but for a 5ml bottle you made, how many drops of flavors do u generally use? I tried the mixing calculaters but it left me confused !

Thanks for asking! I'm in the same place. I have a DIY kit and a bunch of Lorann, Capella and fairies flavorings, and I'm too afraid to use them. I'm horrible at math and that spreadsheet just scares me!

What's a simple way to start?

 

[Flowersoul]

I've only experimented a little bit, but stopped because I knew I wasn't getting the correct ratios.

So, I've been reading, reading, and reading some more, but feel dizzy with info overload.

Those charts are ingenious, but I too, find them confusing.

But, my persistence will overcome my resistance, and I will get it.

Gracie

 

[Mary Kay]

Jules, I need to go find Kate's thread on mixing flavors, she has a base that is used for all the flavors/ That way it cuts down on time and makes the outcome reproducable..that word looks wrong..oh well.
here are some GREAT threads and links for DIY. These are all found in DIY e-liquids in the Tips and Tricks section. There are more like this but these have a lot of recipes.
Started by Kate
Eliquid Recepies

Started by Spikey
For recipes only!!!!!!!
Spikey is perfecting an RY4..she added marshmallow and peanut butter..I knew there were secret ingrediants!

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This is our Miss Kate's famous formula in both Percentage and translated to drops by Jaaxx..bless his mathmatical little soul!
These are for tester's. (1ml)...to make a bottle just put a zero behind the drop numbers..I think that makes 10ml..I repeat THINK!

Originally Posted by Jaaxx
20 drops per ml.

Kate's small batch recipe (as posted above) is
10% water
10% Flavoring
20% Commercial E-Liquid
60% VG

That equates to (for a 1ml sample)
2 drops Water
2 drops Flavoring
4 drops E-Liquid
12 drops VG

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Posted by Kate in her E-Liquid recipes thread posted above:

Here's a great tool for calculating mixture quantities from Jaaxx - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...omatic.xls.zip You need to save the file and then unzip

Not only is this brilliant..in the American meaning of that word and the British..Genius and Fabulous! It is also fun to play with! Don't save changes when you are done unless you really like that one formula. If you save just open a new hack-o-matic. There is another formula calulater here on the board, but for the life of me I can't find it! If you see it, post it along with the rest of this good stuff.
You need to save the file and then unzip.
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Check this out! It's a list of Lorann's with a breakdown of ingrediants. Thanks Exogenesis!
http://www.exogenesis.co.uk/Loranne1.htm
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[mergryphon]

Thanks MaryKay,

That gave some great ideas, now I just have to get brave.

I ordered a bunch of capella's from that sale last week, have some flavourart from Liberty flight, and some lorann's that came in my kit. Also have 60ml and 100ml unflavored.

I wanna make my own stronger french toast and chocolate brownie.

 

[Flowersoul]

Thanks MaryKay! lots of good info here!

 

[Mary Kay]

There are some really good recipes in those first two threads as well as in the fun fabulous, frightening flavor thread. You just have to sift thru them.

 

[Jules22871]

Cool, a new mixing thread. I really need to get back to it. I haven't mixed a new flavor in ages. MK, remember back a few months ago I was trying every flavor combo I could come up with,lol I've been lazy and letting Puresmoker and My Freedom Smokes do my mixing for me. I actually have unopened bottles of flavoring.

Any ideas on how to use my creme de menthe?

 

[mystal]

Hi everyone, I just joined the group. I've never actually mixed e liquid but I was a bartender.. how about some chocolate or cocoa flavor with the cream de menthe? and I wonder if there's anything 'cream' flavoured.. mix together and you have a grasshopper.

 

[Mary Kay]

I use Lorann's cream de menthe with chocolate e-liquid..it's a very passable thin mint!
Yes, most flavorings and e-liquids do make a cream flavor..be sparing with it, it has an odd taste, like scorched or turned milk (at least to me).
Please be careful about using real liquor, it has sugar in it and sugar is an atty killer. Clear liquor like vodka can be used as a thinner if you only use a few drops.

Hi Jules! Post me a recipe or 6!

 

[mystal]

sorry I should have said creme de menthe flavour, didn't mean to sound like I wanted anyone to mix sticky sweet liqueur in there

 

[Mary Kay]

My mom used to make grasshoppers when her friends came over for sunday afternoon cards. I loved getting little sips here and there.

 

[mergryphon]

I finally tried mixing! First French toast was a failure, second perfect and plumes at 6v. I was going for the HV effect.

HV French Toast

Nicotine in PG 60mg
Target Nic 30mg
Amount to be made: 10ml
Flavor 25% (My taste buds are dead, I like it strong and sweet.)

PG with Nicotine 5.00ml (150 drops) 50%
VG no Nicotine 2.50ml (75 drops) 25%
Flavoring 2.50ml (75 drops) 25%
Capella's French Toast 2.3ml (68 drops) 90.1%
FlavourArt Maple Syrup .2ml (7 drops) 9.0%
Splendex .0ml (1 drop) 0.9%
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Total 2.5ml (75 drops) 100%

HV Chocolate Brownie

Nicotine in PG 60mg
Target Nic 30mg
Amount to be made: 10ml
Flavor 25% (My taste buds are dead, I like it strong and sweet.)

PG with Nicotine 5.00ml (150 drops) 50%
VG no Nicotine 2.50ml (75 drops) 25%
Flavoring 2.50ml (75 drops) 25%
Capella's Chocolate Fudge Brownie 2.5ml (75 drops) 100.0%
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Total 2.5ml (75 drops) 100%