Desert Ship has always been perfumey to me. But, I've only bought one (because I didn't like it) and that was 3 months ago. Anything beyond a drop in 15 ml is overly strong, perfumey and cloying in the DS I received.
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I will definately post them on here I have everyone except for those and like to play and combine some. They are strong for sure and hope the new ones are just as good
I'm trying to choose a few flavors that I'm sure I would like, but it's a bit hard, y'know? Maybe you guys could help me out?
The only flavor I really like is DeKang Marlbro/USA Mix. I don't like anything earthy, ashy, or nutty. I like the USA Mix cause it's sort of a natural sweet tobacco flavor.
But, I'm getting tired of the inconsistency of the orders I get. So I'm looking into DIY. The Maxboro Ultimate seems promising. What FlavourArt tobacco flavors would you recommend for me to try?
The only flavor I really like is DeKang Marlbro/USA Mix. I don't like anything earthy, ashy, or nutty. I like the USA Mix cause it's sort of a natural sweet tobacco flavor.
But, I'm getting tired of the inconsistency of the orders I get. So I'm looking into DIY. The Maxboro Ultimate seems promising. What FlavourArt tobacco flavors would you recommend for me to try?
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I would recommend you Desert ship (USA & Turkey) as it smells like when you open pack of cigarettes. Slightly sweet tobbaco aroma and not that earthy as others from flavourarts. But I didn't try maxboro, camel or shade yet, they might be even better.
I used 1 drop of Desert Ship in 6ml of PG along with 1 drop of Vape Wizard. It definitely needs to sit overnight for the flavors to blend. I didn't like it at all last night when I mixed it (perfumey) but it is much better today, though very sweet (and almost no perfume taste.) I will dilute with another 3ml of PG, let sit and taste again tomorrow.
I also mixed 1 drop of Cuban Supreme with 6ml of PG, let sit overnight and...not enough flavor. Added a 2nd drop and is boderline too much flavor now. Will mix in an additional 3ml of PG, let sit overnight and test tomorrow.
I still have Camel Ultimate and Virginia to try but I have read the mixes don't store well so will wait until these are gone and try the others.
I also mixed 1 drop of Cuban Supreme with 6ml of PG, let sit overnight and...not enough flavor. Added a 2nd drop and is boderline too much flavor now. Will mix in an additional 3ml of PG, let sit overnight and test tomorrow.
I still have Camel Ultimate and Virginia to try but I have read the mixes don't store well so will wait until these are gone and try the others.
Well, I have received the three new flavors and currently I am testing "Shade".
It has a very distinct smell and taste, almost a bit Oriental, very good vapor production and a normal, pleasant throat hit. I have to still try it with different voltages and atties to make a judgement. But for now it has a clean desirable taste/flavor that is getting to me more and more.
I will, over the coming days report more on the findings and also around the Camtel and MAxborro flavor's.
Happy Vaping!
I have tried almost all of the FA tobacco flavors. Burley is nice. It tastes like B&H - a plain tobacco flavor, not sweet or smokey or nutty. I didn't care for the Camel Ultimate. It reminded me of a dirty ashtray. Call me weird. Vape Wizard left a really bad aftertaste - bitter and cloyingly sweet at the same time. I can't even stand the smell of it - it stunk up my tackle-box of DIY stuff.
I really like Marlboro Ultimate - Maxboro or whatever they call it, and I like Shade. I can't describe either of them. I mixed them together, one drop each in a 3ml bottle and I really, really like it. It is very close to Blucigs classic tobacco flavor that I love so much. It's close, but not exactly the same. I am on a quest to find blu's tobacco. I know it is missing something, but I am not sure what. Maybe something sweet? What do you guys think?
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I really like Marlboro Ultimate - Maxboro or whatever they call it, and I like Shade. I can't describe either of them. I mixed them together, one drop each in a 3ml bottle and I really, really like it. It is very close to Blucigs classic tobacco flavor that I love so much. It's close, but not exactly the same. I am on a quest to find blu's tobacco. I know it is missing something, but I am not sure what. Maybe something sweet? What do you guys think?
~A
Vape Wizard I use for "sweet" flavors, did not try it for the tobacco one's.
Yeah, just tried the MAxborro, pretty descent, but have to vape it longer to make a good opinion. What is the ratio u use for that one?
I mix the tobacco flavors at 2 drops per 3ml of juice - which is around 2% That's is how I mix all the FA flavors except vanilla custard - I like that one really strong, around 10%
"have to vape it longer to make an opinion" I understand that. Some juices taste different on different days, or even different hours in the same day. I have long wondered if it was the nature of e-juice or if I had schizo taste buds.
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Just tried my batch of Camel Ultimate that I made up about 3 hours ago.
Interesting, as RedGirl already mentioned ... piney and not to sweet, describes it quite well. Has a pretty good TH.
I made the batch according to angelique510 - 2 drops per 3 ml.
50% PG, 50% 24 mg flavourless nic, 2 drops FA Camel Ultimate.
Nice vape, I like it.
It is a tad on the perfumey side, Camel Ultimate is a very strong concentrated flavour. Next time I think I will only use 1 drop per 3 ml. The flavour is coming through very strong for a three hour brew period.
BTW, not sure why they call this Camel Ultimate - it is nothing like Camel analogs.
Interesting, as RedGirl already mentioned ... piney and not to sweet, describes it quite well. Has a pretty good TH.
I made the batch according to angelique510 - 2 drops per 3 ml.
50% PG, 50% 24 mg flavourless nic, 2 drops FA Camel Ultimate.
Nice vape, I like it.
It is a tad on the perfumey side, Camel Ultimate is a very strong concentrated flavour. Next time I think I will only use 1 drop per 3 ml. The flavour is coming through very strong for a three hour brew period.
BTW, not sure why they call this Camel Ultimate - it is nothing like Camel analogs.
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Camel ultimate
2ml mix
70% 24mg Nic PG
30% 24mg Nic VG
2 drops of camel
It is definately piney, no so powerfull smell as desert ship (usa&turk), not so earthy(hay) as perique or burley. TH is killer as it is 24mg.
6 years ago is when I was last time smoking camel cigarttes... so can not really say if it tastes like that. But it is not sweet or nutty as most of tobacco premixed ones.
Tell ya more tommorow, as it will need to brew.
I still have FA - honey, black pepper, vanilla madagascar and mentol to test.
Keep updating, please
2ml mix
70% 24mg Nic PG
30% 24mg Nic VG
2 drops of camel
It is definately piney, no so powerfull smell as desert ship (usa&turk), not so earthy(hay) as perique or burley. TH is killer as it is 24mg.
6 years ago is when I was last time smoking camel cigarttes... so can not really say if it tastes like that. But it is not sweet or nutty as most of tobacco premixed ones.
Tell ya more tommorow, as it will need to brew.
I still have FA - honey, black pepper, vanilla madagascar and mentol to test.
Keep updating, please
I still have FA - honey, black pepper, vanilla madagascar and mentol to test.
Keep updating, please
Yes, please - I've yet to dive into DIY to any extent yet but I'm definitely interested in how you find working with the black pepper as happy vapor's site says:
Aromatic, without the peppery bite.
I think I'm looking for the bite . . .
NO! the mext time you try it mix it 3 drops per 6ml. Tuning a recipe is tuning not drastic measures.
BTW tobacco flavours are on the dry side, try a drop of EM or marshmallow per 6mls. You will be surprised how much difference 1 drop makes.
So, what are you saying - 1/2 drop per ml.
Okay I will try it that way next time. 3 drops per 6 ml.
Now when you refer to a drop, are you referring to a drop from the FA bottle or a drop from a syringe or pipette?
Maxboro Ultimate: Similar to Cowboy but better. 2 drops per 3 ml is too much.
Next time I will mix 3 drops per 6 ml (as already suggested by Switched).
Hypnotic Mist: Interesting ... I can not describe it. A nice mellow vape and very smooth. Used 2 drops in a 3 ml batch.
Next time I will mix 3 drops per 6 ml (as already suggested by Switched).
Hypnotic Mist: Interesting ... I can not describe it. A nice mellow vape and very smooth. Used 2 drops in a 3 ml batch.
Drop from Fa. Furthermore the little 3ml bottles drip at a rate of 22 drops per ml, same as my graduated dropper. I do not like pipettes. I use syringes for the large quantities e.g if it call for 57 drops, that equals 2ml (syringed) and 13 drops.
I'll have to give that one another go. It's intriguing, I don't remember the ratio I used, lost my note
correct!
I test in straight PG so no biggie. For example 9 drops PG 1 drop flavour = 10% flavour.
If that was not enough I do 8 drops PG 2 drop flavour = 20% flavour (different mix)
If 20% was too much, then was it closer to 10 or 20. For argument sake here let's say it was in between. Mix both bottle together and you have 15% flavouring.
On tobacco, they are touchy, do as I explained and work from there.
For flavouring juices, most of the time we start at 10% some folks start at 5% which would be 19/1. I find 5% a waste of time. The tricky part is when refining the recipe. Like 5 drops/10ml of marshmallow in my Cuban Cherry to take away the dryness. This was a educated guess from 1 drop/3ml, it didn't need 3 drops, it needed 5 drops which was 1 drop/2ml.
My PT is always fitted with my pen adapter a fresh atty that I am using in developing that liquid. Which I turn to a couple of times a day, over the course of several days because recipes mature over a couple days then plateau. Once I am happy, I make a 10ml batch. keeping notes. If there is something I want to try, I'll syringe 5ml into another bottle, and keep notes. This doesn't happen too often though. I use 5 mls, because that is easily dbled into 10, 20 or even 30ml. The caveat...
OK so let's say I found a juice that required 1 drop of X in 5 mls, it also means that would equate to 2 in 10mls, or 6 in 30mls, not all the time. Some flavours will tune out others in larger quantities, especially some of the strong ones. Sometimes I find that although the ratio called for 6, a more accurate count would be 5. These are the special notes that need to be kept dilligently. My RY5 is a prime candidate for the latter discussion.
I was a premium cigar smoker and as we know the majority had/have very complex flavours, same thing goes with pipe tobacco. The nuances have to be finely tune, something all the calculators out there simply do not do, as they don't calculate a fraction of percentage or 1/2 or even 1/3 drop. Sooooo
In my recipe book I keep track of percentages, drops, size of recipe, PG/VG ratio, distilled water (more vapour) and fine tuning drops for larger recipe sizes etc... I like mixing 10mls at a time, it's a nice size and not too much to vape if you screwed up, which is nearly impossible if you took all the baby steps previously mentioned. but because of these 1/3 drops you may very well be forced to mix let's say 12 or even 15 mls.
Hope all this helps.
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Update on my mix from yesterday:
Mix was sitting for about 18 hours. Liquid got now more yellow-ish colour. TH is even stronger than yesterday (510 & true joy atomizer+drip). Tastes more piney and more complex but stronger. I wanted to add more sweetnes so added 1 drop of honey. It doesn't work as a sweetner on inhale but it does on exhale (as a smell). Anybody knows how can I add more sweetnes on inhale (taste)? Should I use EM?
Then I tried to add another 3ml pure glycerin to existing 3ml mix. BETTER. Don't know why but it feels better. Some new flavours developed, I would say: it has BODY now. Weird
Still pepper, vanilla and menthol to go.
Any idea guys if i can lick from the bottle pure taste of this FA flavours? To actually find out how it tastes pure? Is that safe?
Keep you updated
Mix was sitting for about 18 hours. Liquid got now more yellow-ish colour. TH is even stronger than yesterday (510 & true joy atomizer+drip). Tastes more piney and more complex but stronger. I wanted to add more sweetnes so added 1 drop of honey. It doesn't work as a sweetner on inhale but it does on exhale (as a smell). Anybody knows how can I add more sweetnes on inhale (taste)? Should I use EM?
Then I tried to add another 3ml pure glycerin to existing 3ml mix. BETTER. Don't know why but it feels better. Some new flavours developed, I would say: it has BODY now. Weird
Still pepper, vanilla and menthol to go.
Any idea guys if i can lick from the bottle pure taste of this FA flavours? To actually find out how it tastes pure? Is that safe?
Keep you updated
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