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[Switched]

It is entirely safe to plae a drop on your finger and taste as is, rememebr it is concentrated.

WRT honey, it does indeed smell so the misses tells me and does indeed impart a flavour.

On the other hand LorAnn and PA cotton candy which apparently is Ehtyl maltol at a 10% solution in PG.

As you notice above I use marshmallow to take the dryness away. It works for me and does not add any flavour perse.

I like the way you operate your lab. IMHO that is what most folks are missing: patience; and tweaking.

 

[Jofre]

Thanks Switched.

Update.

I added 1 drop of FA black pepper, something changed in flavour, but i wanted THAT a bit more.. another drop.. WOOW - it is extending tobbaco "higher" notes, it is more peppery but i can not regonize black pepper.

Stop for today, leave this to brew until tommorow.

Final mix i'm gonna leave to brew overnight:
2 ml 24mg PG nic
1 ml 24mg VG nic
3ml pure glycerin
2 drops of FA camel
1 drop of FA honey
2 drops of FA black pepper

 

[Jofre]

Update:

This mix was sitting for 24hours:
2 ml 24mg PG nic
1 ml 24mg VG nic
3ml pure glycerin
2 drops of FA camel
1 drop of FA honey
2 drops of FA black pepper

Much smoother, nice to vape as it is. But it is experimenting time So I added 2 drops of FA black pepper and 2 drops of FA Vanilla bourbone madagascar.

OH MY GOD - I'm here!!! Final mix ! Do not wanna go anywhere further.
Really smooth tobacco-piney-slightly vanillish with pepper notes on the top.

Final mix:

2 ml 24mg PG nic (LF)
1 ml 24mg VG nic (LF)
3ml 100% pure glycerin (boots)
2 drops of FA camel
1 drop of FA honey
4 drops of FA black pepper
2 drops of FA vanilla bourbone madagascar

 

[Jofre]

Upsss SORRY

Forgot about 1 drop of FA desert ship (usa&turk). So final mix again:
2 ml 24mg PG nic (LF)
1 ml 24mg VG nic (LF)
3ml 100% pure glycerin (boots)
2 drops of FA camel
1 drop of FA honey
4 drops of FA black pepper
2 drops of FA vanilla bourbone madagascar
1 drop of FA desert ship (usa&turk)

 

[Switched]

What's the purpose of the extra 3ml VG, man that is a lot of VG (4ml) in your mix?

 

[Jofre]

Run out of pure PG Waiting for delivery

 

[Switched]

Run out of pure PG Waiting for delivery

I see, you do know that, that much VG will affect the overall flavour of the mix.

 

[Jofre]

Yes, exactly. I have started to use VG 2 weeks after I stopped smoking because of PG symptoms - that was big mystake because there weren't any PG symptoms, only sympoms from stopped smoking.

BTW mix from yesterday is delicious

Question for Switched: Does eGo change flavour to compare with 510?

 

[AlexTM]

If I'm allowed to answer this, too Yes, it does. Slightly, though. The cones warms the atty, too, and it makes the vape warmer and delivers more flavour.

 

[Switched]

If I'm allowed to answer this, too Yes, it does. Slightly, though. The cones warms the atty, too, and it makes the vape warmer and delivers more flavour.

Yes Alex you are allowed too but I'm afraid I have to correct you.

The cone does not warm the atty perse, but does retain the heat generated by the atty. The eGo without the atty vapes like a 510 on steroids, not my line but applicable.

There is a lot happening with the eGo and it starts with the battery. It's a 650 mAh proprietary battery. I don't know what it does, but it does behave differently than other high drain batteries. This I found out after I had my eG0 for a couple of weeks from something I watched from the Janty site. So it was observed without answer, but confirmed with their video. I hope I make sense.

It is my understanding and experience that a cooler atty will render more flavour e.g the 801/901.

The cone assy changes the draw dramatically IMO, not in a bad way, but in a different way. The draw is easy, but restricted, if that makes sense. The clearance at the top of the cone is only sufficient to allow for air to travel from the top of the cone, surrond the atty on it's way down (warming up in the process) and be sucked in like a regualar 510.

You do not hear the sucking sound as pronounced as with the 510.

For a 3.7V device and price, janty did their job right and IMHO did a fine one with the eGo, probably the best 3.7V device around.

 

[Switched]

Yes, exactly. I have started to use VG 2 weeks after I stopped smoking because of PG symptoms - that was big mystake because there weren't any PG symptoms, only sympoms from stopped smoking.

BTW mix from yesterday is delicious

Question for Switched: Does eGo change flavour to compare with 510?

It is hard to describe. It is different but I can't say in all candour more pronounced, pleasurable not as harsh would be a better description.

On an 801 the flavour is more pronounce and wetter, that one please do not ask me to describe. It is only once you have experienced an 801 that you will understand the term, probably because it is not as harsh as the 510.

To really confuse you in a good way, atty resistance plays a vital and an important role in a vape. Once you find the "sweet spot" between atty resistance, volatge and different liquids, you will be in heaven.

 

[Switched]

BTW mix from yesterday is delicious

I'm gonna have to give that one a whirl. In your opinion to you think that much VG plays an important role, or a minor one?

 

[AlexTM]

The cone does not warm the atty perse, but does retain the heat generated by the atty. The eGo without the atty vapes like a 510 on steroids, not my line but applicable.

Well, then a glove doesn't warm your hands, either. It just helps to retain the heat of the body.

And definitely yes, even without the atty it vapes better.

For a 3.7V device and price, janty did their job right and IMHO did a fine one with the eGo, probably the best 3.7V device around.

Well, actually, the eGo, like all Joye 510 stuff, is 3.1v, not 3.7. On a proper 3.7v battery (any KR8 for example will do, doesn't have to be a mod) they all taste considerably different, too. Some prefer that, I personally can't stand it.

 

[Switched]

Well, actually, the eGo, like all Joye 510 stuff, is 3.1v, not 3.7. On a proper 3.7v battery (any KR8 for example will do, doesn't have to be a mod) they all taste considerably different, too. Some prefer that, I personally can't stand it.

Are you sure about that one? I understand that we loose under load, but it is my understanding a steady 3.4V is more like it. I will concede that other JoyE devices do in fact run at 3.1V, because of the battery.

 

[AlexTM]

Scottbee is, and that fits with my experience with clones and Joye 510 on different batteries: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html

 

[Switched]

Thanks a bunch Alex. I stand corrected and have bookmarked the page for future use.

Both my box mods vary as well my 3.7V came in at 3.46V under load from a 3.81V measured tired batt. My 5V regulated device (using 2 14500 in series) puts out 5.01V unloaded and 4.67V loaded. Both utilize 900mAh batts.

But both fell well within the 7 - 12 watts sweet spot with the proper atty fitted: LR on 3.7V and SLBs or 801 on 5V. Fitted with a stock 510 atty, the 5V box mod renders a similar performance to a 6V fitted with an SLB or an 801

Have you tried the eGo Alex? Because I sure don't know what it is, but that batt does something different or at least seems to, and I haven't figured it out yet. That being said, I am not about to refute your reference. But would sure like a logical explanation.

 

[emonty]

Vaping Shade continuously for a few days now, very nice warm tasty flavor, loads of Vape and good TH. Vaping on 7.2V with a special HV attie (i-7). the flavor is a little less then on 3.7V, but with this set-up a great TH!

 

[Jofre]

The cone assy changes the draw dramatically IMO, not in a bad way, but in a different way. The draw is easy, but restricted, if that makes sense. The clearance at the top of the cone is only sufficient to allow for air to travel from the top of the cone, surrond the atty on it's way down (warming up in the process) and be sucked in like a regualar 510.

Thanks guys for explanation, but I'm lost a bit here...
How do you mean restricted? Is the hit warmer? More like cigarette or low resistance atty? I can feel a big difference in draw with original joy atty and clone.

cheers

Update on my mix.

Mix is stabilised now completely and doesn't change taste at all now. If you wanna get it little bit sweeter add 2 rops of FA honey.
cheers

 

[Jofre]

I always thought - warmer atty produces more flavour. It looks the way it is actually other way round, is it?

 

[Jofre]

Original joye atty which I believe has lower resistance than L2 atty produces warmer hit and little bit more flavour, that is my experience. (510)